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  1. The reason she surrounded herself with the non-force wielding bodyguards was to make herself more difficult for Nihilus to sense.

     

    I, and Kreia, beg to differ:

     

    "You have gathered Sith holocrons, Sith teachings from across the galaxy. It is why you have chosen servants who cannot feel the Force. And most importantly, they cannot feel what you have become."

  2. I never said the fault was Bioware's, it belongs to whoever decided to make the LS ending for K1 the cannon story.

     

     

    If memory serves, and it might not, the LS ending to the game was made canon long before TSL was even created. It's also an homage (or a rip off depending on your point of view) to the ending of A New Hope.

     

    And honestly I don't see how the LS ending would make any less sense in the context of TSL than the DS ending would. In fact the DS ending makes less. I mean Revan has an unlimited army at his/her beck and call, an apprentice that can perform Battle Meditation, and s/he abandons it all to go fight this threat to his/her power by him/herself? That makes no sense to me.

  3. according to star wars insider, he lost it in a lightsaber duel with revan.

     

    *sigh* They couldn't of thought up something more original than that? I mean "Revan did it" seems so predictable. :(

  4. But the dialogue in Jolee's breakout is much better. :D

    So true, but having the whole revalation scene with Jolee in his sock suspenders is just too much for me. I mean that scene's supposed to be all serious and here I am cracking up over Jolee's undies. :lol:
  5. His Force potential just seems to come out of nowhere (part of me is convinced the devs were trying to say that anyone could learn the ways of the Force).

     

    Not really. His affinity for machines and fixing things, that he's so damn good at it, is a sign of Force sensitivity. ;)

     

    As for the rest let's just agree to disagree, otherwise this will just go round and round until I go crazy. :nut::xp:

  6. Hmm...I don't think she was cut from the game.= at any point. They had in mind a Cathar Jedi character from the start (named Bastila Shan, originally ;)). I get the feeling that she was added in at the last minute, so they didn't have time to give her enough dialogue or make sure that her dialogue actually happens in the game. :rolleyes: That, and they probably figured about a third of the players would kill her, so they thought "Meh...forget the catwoman; give the line to Bastila or Jolee".

    Well, that's just what I've heard on the forums over the years, that she was cut, and then put back in the game in a slap dash way at the last minute. *shrug*

     

    Eh...not buying it. :xp: I'm sure you're right, but what's in the game doesn't really explain it well enough for me. She just goes from full-on DS to full-on LS in an instant. And you can make her go back to DS as well, just buy saying a few words.
    Next time you play, really watch her in the scene in the grove after you beat her down. She's defeated in more than just battle, and trying to convince herself she was evil. She never was really. You may never have heard this, because it's a little difficult to trigger, but she says later: "That I could convince myself that by injuring my master I became a great force of evil in the galaxy. For my pride, my hubris." I think if one of the masters had actually gone out there and talked to her after the incident with the Quatra she would have come back with one of them (as long as it wasn't Vrook :lol: ), not just because the PC chatted her up.

     

    (Side note: I don't really like the notion of the player being able to redeem everyone and their cousin by having a nice chat...but yea, this is a BioWare game we're talking about :p).
    Oh, neither do I. I think this is the appeal of the character Valen in HotU to me, in that while he's the romance option in that game, it was the Seer that started him on his path to redemption, not the PC. And the Seer didn't even say anything to him!

     

    Yeah, Bastila wasn't properly developed either. Though she makes up for it in other areas, since she's a major character and gets about 5x as many lines as Juhani, allowing for more character development (not enough...but more). In any case, I still say
    Juhani IMO is a lot like Bao- a woman of action not words. She even tells you that she had trouble making friends and finds the ease in which you accept her (if you do so) to be different than what she's used to. I get the feeling the PC was the only one she ever really talked to on the ship, because of that.

     

    Yeah, but she kept on begging me to ask! I just did it so she'd shut up about it. :xp:
    Did she? The only way she would is if you actually took her with you. :xp:

     

    He doesn't talk often...but when he does, he makes his words mean something. Maybe that's what Obsidian was going for...I don't know.
    I think it was. Bao always struck me as a man of action not words, is the 'strong silent type'. He fit well with my Exile, cause she's kinda the same way.

     

    Though his Jedi training didn't make a bit of sense (light or dark), and was rushed.
    Why didn't you think his Jedi training made any sense? :confused: And it was originally planned for a training sequence in which you taught him lightsaber forms, deflect blaster bolts from Remote, etc, but it was cut probably due to time. *shakes fist at LucasArts**

     

    Anyway, it's late so I hope that made at least some measure sense. :xp:

  7. Well, I did have a nice post all typed up but the forums ate it, must be the Darth Nihilus of forums. :xp:

     

    Yeah, they were cut. :xp: And those were the only times she said anything (no banter, and a lot of her other lines were cut too). And I still say she was underdeveloped, but to each his/her own.
    That's because at one time, she was cut entirely from the game, (or so I've heard) under the pretense that she was "too much content for female character vs. male characters" they can't fool me it was because she's a lesbian. But cutting her out left problems in the plot so she was put back in the half-arsed way we see now, with her romance gutted and difficult to trigger (what is there can be triggered though, with some effort and careful timing).

     

    I will say that I used to hate Juhani, until I actually listened to what she had to say. Then my hate turned to empathy. ;)

     

    My problem with Juhani, as I said above, was that she was rather cliched, just your typical crazed woman who fell to the dark side in the beat of an eye and could be redeemed just as quickly.
    I would have to say that she was easy to redeem in the first place because she wanted to be, but was afraid to go back for fear of being punished. Anyway, what I loved about her, and Yuthura if you talk to her on Dantooine, is that they show that coming back to the light and staying there isn't easy. That's one of the things that's always annoyed me about Bastila's storyline is that you never got to talk to her post redemption. :(

     

    "Hey, I asked for your name, not your life story!" :xp:
    Actually, you did ask for her life story. :xp:

     

    Good. :xp:
    They're right, you really are Darth Carterious aren't you? :xp:

     

    Gurges-Ahter, I'm a raving Bao fangirl, we're a crazy lot and you can't talk sense into us. :xp: I guess I just see more than most in Bao, maybe because I drag him everywhere with me. Besides he has the best line in the entire game IMHO, the one in my sig. :)

  8. Ok...hmm...why do I hate Juhani...? Well, the character was severely underdeveloped (and rather cliched, of course), and it doesn't really make a difference whether you kill her on Dantooine or not.

     

    You think she's underdeveloped? :confused: Why? I thought she was one of the best developed characters in the game. Not to mention she has the most to say about each planet you visit, even though they were cut. :xp:

     

    Yuthura, same as above, only replace "Dantooine" with "Korriban". Yuthura was actually slightly more developed than Juhani...but it doesn't make a difference because she's so dull and pointless. :p Oh, and it's much easier and worth more in terms of items and XP to kill her.
    Did you ever talk to Yuthura on Dantooine after convincing her to leave the Sith and give the Jedi another chance?

     

    Happy now? :p
    No. :(
  9. Hmm...let's see...

    I hate Juhani. I hate Yuthura for pretty much the same reason(s). And mission's a bratty little girl. :xp:

     

    Do we get to know why? Or do we have to guess? :xp:

     

    And of course Mission's bratty, she's a teenager. :rolleyes::xp:

  10. Why did he kept that fact secret on the whole K1, however?

     

    There's three possibilities there:

     

    He dislikes Jedi, or at least doesn't fully trust them, so he probably wouldn't want to turn his life over into their hands.

     

    He doesn't know.

     

    Or he's not Force sensitive enough to be trained as a Jedi, but has enough sensitivity to have a higher perception and intuition than your average Joe.

  11. It was revealed in the first Vector arc that the disease has no affect on aliens or Force sensitives. Still, I don't think it means anything; Canderous never go the disease.

     

    That is the lamest thing I have ever heard, I can't remember who said it but I'll quote them, "Who writes the EU now, monkeys?" Since in game it's said repeatedly that anyone infected with the disease gets mutated. :rolleyes:

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