Master William Posted September 29, 2003 Share Posted September 29, 2003 It is! I have experience from Jk2, and I know many tricks... Like roll-stab when the enemy is doing a kata or one of those spins. I win 8/10 duels against dual- and staff users. The katas are very useful, depends on what situation you are in (I mean the kata for each stance). Does anyone feel the same? I still think the Single saber owns... I am also good with staff, but I rarely use it. owns and :saberg: (In my opinion of course) Sorry for the 100 paragraphs, but that stupid banner keeps blocking my text... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarus Posted September 29, 2003 Share Posted September 29, 2003 I like single as its most challenging. If i pick up dual its a joke...I win a ton without even trying. Regarding single the number one thing I hate is that single stance and even medium, to a degree, get knocked away. They should be as good at blocking as the heavy stance. Currently the advantage of light is speed. The disadvantage is short range, low damage, and no block ability. Way to much in the way of disadvantages. If you can't tell I really hate heavy stance. Its just boring to use. I start a swing then I run up to the enemy and try to hit him with the bat. Its unrealistic. While starwars isn't real there is degrees of realistic and running around while in the middle of a powerful swing just seems dumb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master William Posted September 29, 2003 Author Share Posted September 29, 2003 I call the dual sabers 'noob sticks'. Anyway, the fast stance has a good thing, and it is its DFA, (you know, crouch + forward + attack). I often use this on an enemy when they are in the end of their kata attack, or in the end of that saber-spinning thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tesla Posted September 29, 2003 Share Posted September 29, 2003 I like the Red Stance the best, mostly because of the Kata, i just love it. Anyways, check out this new guide i wrote on how to add new sabers to JA. http://www.lucasforums.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=113141 No revelance to the topic what so ever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterSkyline Posted September 29, 2003 Share Posted September 29, 2003 Yeah i cant live without single saber... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS87 Posted September 29, 2003 Share Posted September 29, 2003 Yeah, Single sabers are really fun, but i dont like the people that use them just because they think it will make him "an elite uber jedi", And piss an moan when i kick them, then stab htem when they are down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Posted September 29, 2003 Share Posted September 29, 2003 Single saber users are rare! most if not all the good players I have seen use it,I use it too(I'm not not Bragging just saying I use it) IMO the staff is the noob stick...... Alot! of people use the staff because they think they look like darth maul. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JediNyt Posted September 29, 2003 Share Posted September 29, 2003 Originally posted by Tarus Regarding single the number one thing I hate is that single stance and even medium, to a degree, get knocked away. They should be as good at blocking as the heavy stance. I agree, fast and medium seem to have been nerfed. Ive never won a duel using fast in JA. I mostly use strong because it connects the most even though it looks lame. Actually hitting someone effectively with fast and medium is unrealistically hard. Imho. But still I use single primarily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FK | unnamed Posted September 29, 2003 Share Posted September 29, 2003 Originally posted by Master William It is! I have experience from Jk2, and I know many tricks... That is simply not possible. It is an entirely new game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmPreSS Posted September 29, 2003 Share Posted September 29, 2003 Single saber in JA is not the best right now. It may become the best if Raven/Lucasarts puts out a patch that takes away the damage etc. of the staff and dual moves. I think the damage of certain things needs to be fixed but I do NOT think they should alter any of the moves. The spinning of the dual barrier should remain because if the spinning is removed, that move will be useless and leave you too wide open for any attack. Pivotting should be kept in the game to make it more challenging because a good player isn't stupid enough to attack a barrier if the person is spinning like crazy during it... that's certain death 99% of the time. Each saber choice has their own strengths and weaknesses. So it all depends on the player... Too many people, it seems, want JA to be more like Jk2. To me, that is stupid. The 1.04 patch in Jk2 is so boring and the new moves in JA bring alot more variety to saber play... reminds me of the 1.03 patch in Jk2. My one bit of advice. If they remove the ability to pivot entirely from the barrier, then they should make it so a player can jump away at any time or move if an opponent is about to attack. I would just hate to see this game get ruined and become boring like the 1.04 patch in Jk2 is. 1.04 wasn't boring when it first came out, but a year later... yes, it's very boring. "If you want JA to be more like Jk2, then just go play Jk2" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Kaan Posted September 29, 2003 Share Posted September 29, 2003 Red Stance takes timing. I get just as many kills with it in JA as I did JO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lotr-sam0711 Posted September 29, 2003 Share Posted September 29, 2003 I played the demo and I hated staff, Loved dual, Havn't tried single but I bet your'e right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nabroc Posted September 29, 2003 Share Posted September 29, 2003 I'll agree that for a real noob the staff and dual are easier to score some points on anything but a duel server (there it won't matter what they use). But when the players have a little experience, the random spamming of slashes and katas won't do it any longer. Checking saber only or duel servers I've seen people own with any of the 3 saber types (10/0 on duel or close to it, or #1 with 2x the score of player #2 on a saber FFA), it'll take just as good timing to hit a better player with a butterfly on 1vs1 as trying to land a good one with the single - mixing it up close against a single blade user with the staff seldom works, if the opponent know what he's doing, he'll just use his/her range advantage of the single. The katas of the staff and especially that of the dual saber are hardly useful in a duel, because you see them coming from way off. From my personal experience I'll do just as good/bad with any of the 3 types and the better the opponents get, the more it helps to have some decent experience with all of em to know what can and can't be accomplished. Personally, up till now I see the 3 of em as fairly balanced, with the exception that I do feel the heavy (red) stance of the single saber could do just a little more damage. As already mentioned above, IMO it ain't the saber it's the wielder that makes the difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmPreSS Posted September 29, 2003 Share Posted September 29, 2003 I agree. It depends on the player. If a player knows what they are doing with any of the 3 choices, they can win vs anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gauvain Posted September 29, 2003 Share Posted September 29, 2003 indeed single saber is really powerful when you know how to use it but the other sabers are good as well not for the cheap moves that everyone does (katas, spinning sabers or bfly kicks) but for COOLNESS and gameplay of course i think its quite balanced i play all sabers and styles and they are all worth playing good job raven software Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterSkyline Posted September 29, 2003 Share Posted September 29, 2003 Its kinda though using single in FFAs though... Red DFA does nothing. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS87 Posted September 29, 2003 Share Posted September 29, 2003 Red DFA is no longer the FFA master it was in JO. This is where the new Kata's come in. The blue and red kata's are absoulutly devestating in FFA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurgan Posted September 29, 2003 Share Posted September 29, 2003 As far as I can tell they are all equal. Their power depends on the skill of the user. The ONLY area I can think of where the non single sabers MIGHT have an advantage is in saber locks (I've never won with a single blade against a dual or staff). But I say that now with very little experience. Further testing is needed. I know you can try to push them away during a lock, so that might be an option. Overall though, they have their own pros and cons. I use a variety of types and styles, depending on the game and my mood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime Posted September 29, 2003 Share Posted September 29, 2003 In the couple of games of FFA I played tongiht I found that blue uppercut is great for that dual saber floating twirl thingy. Just when they come out of it, wammo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterSkyline Posted September 29, 2003 Share Posted September 29, 2003 Yeah when people do that butterfly thingy, i just go the role and stab thing at them. Works good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VanishingVision Posted September 29, 2003 Share Posted September 29, 2003 Hey I agree, the single saber has the most versatility of the three saber types, I was playing on a few servers last night, and (not bragging) easily defeated the staff and duel spamers, I fought a few guys that knew how to use the staff and duals correctly and they were great fun... but I still won... 20 times in a row, won all four games in a row. The thing that deters people from the single saber, more specifically the red style is that 1. It's slow 2. It leaves you incredibly vulnerable 3. Its damage ratio is weaker than the staff & Duals I couldn't believe that after landing a perfect DFA (I tested with a friend) I only did 20 to 30 damage, but my friend just spun around in front of me and grazed me for 35 damage... I mean c’mon! But the single... more specifically the red stance has three points to it that make it incredibly powerful 1. It is highly time able, and precise 2.It breaks defenses and can knock the opponents saber out of their hand 3. It can have several sub styles I have created a system of fighting in game with the red style that can do 70 to 100 damage per hit, and shield myself at the same time if I time it just right... without katas... just plain moves... So all in all the single saber has a high learners curve and allows for a more strategic… open ended style(s) versus the other two styles... (Not that they don’t have strategic possibilities but they only have one style a piece, not counting turning of one end or second saber) Well that’s just my humble opinion, -VanishingVision Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterSkyline Posted September 29, 2003 Share Posted September 29, 2003 All I want is the old Red DFA back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VanishingVision Posted September 29, 2003 Share Posted September 29, 2003 Heh... me too... but i'd rather take an up in overall damage lol Cause I'm TRI-POLAR -VanishingVision Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dyehead Posted September 29, 2003 Share Posted September 29, 2003 There is also a thread about how single saber is nerfed You can post your opinions of single saber there as well.. I agree that it is not as powerful as the dual sabers or the light staff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obijonkenobi Posted September 29, 2003 Share Posted September 29, 2003 I use a sabrestaff and I don't consider myself a maul-wannabe. The reason I use it is because of the style of it. I just love the animations you get when doing differant moves. I'm vain and will take something that looks good over something that kills all without a second thought. If it happens to be pretty good as far as killing goes, that is just a nice bonus. I used the single sabres, and dual sabres, but I found I like the staff better for pure vanity reasons. So if people think I am just wanting to be Darth Maul, or that I took it to be "uber" then they obviously have know clue. Some people pick certain things for style, not for being all powerful. I don't play multiplayer however so I wouldnt know much about that scene. ps: I don't even like Darth Maul as a character. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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