The Cheat Posted October 26, 2003 Share Posted October 26, 2003 looking really good, cant wait to see some ingame shots of it when u import it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeoMarz1 Posted October 27, 2003 Share Posted October 27, 2003 Originally posted by Padawan_7 Looks good. Are you going to animate the air flaps? Well I would, but I'm not sure how we could do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaSiN_HeCk Posted October 27, 2003 Share Posted October 27, 2003 pardon me if you're not done skinning but, aren't there more red markings? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emon Posted October 27, 2003 Share Posted October 27, 2003 Yes, there are, and the one in the front is a little off in size. Some reference shots... http://www.theforce.net/scifi3d/starwars/meshes/snowspeeder.jpg http://www.starwars.jp/machine/image/snowspeeder.jpg I'd really like to use it in my Hoth Siege map, I'm adding flyable snowspeeders. Coding it isn't going to be hard at all, it's just like a swoop, you only need to code pitch and some verticle movement, the rest you can do with the VEH files, which are plain text. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cheat Posted October 27, 2003 Share Posted October 27, 2003 this would be perfect for your new map emon it is probably just a basic skin for right now so it looks better, he is probably gonna add a hell of a lot more detail to it before it is done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tFighterPilot Posted October 27, 2003 Author Share Posted October 27, 2003 Update from marz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emon Posted October 29, 2003 Share Posted October 29, 2003 The color on the blaster cannons is off, it shouldn't be blue. Also, the red is still missing at the back. Check my reference shots above. Is this going to be a public release? I'd love to use it in my map. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tFighterPilot Posted October 29, 2003 Author Share Posted October 29, 2003 As you can see, Mars added the red in the back, and gave it all a more real rusty look. I know just as much as you do until I will get this file, and the way it looks, it will be pretty soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[JKZ]_Yun Posted October 29, 2003 Share Posted October 29, 2003 niiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiice keep the good working Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neverhoodian Posted October 29, 2003 Share Posted October 29, 2003 Impressive...most impressive. It's looking really good. It'd be great if it was included in Emon's upcoming Hoth Siege map. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkLord60 Posted October 30, 2003 Share Posted October 30, 2003 Holly $hit that looks awesome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cheat Posted October 30, 2003 Share Posted October 30, 2003 WOW! that looks very awesome. it looks so realistic and accurate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manquesa Posted October 30, 2003 Share Posted October 30, 2003 Lookin good, I was planning on doing a snowspeeder as one of my next projects even I knew about this one, but now I don't think another version will be necessary. I'm curious though, will this thing be a flyable vehicle or more like the swoops, on land only. I ask because I know the snowspeeder can fly in the air more than a swoop or speeder but I think they're generally low altitude flying vehicles. I can't imagine one flying in space. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaSiN_HeCk Posted October 30, 2003 Share Posted October 30, 2003 mars amazes me with his skills and it's a good model too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emon Posted October 30, 2003 Share Posted October 30, 2003 That's about perfect. My only suggestion is to make it a little brighter, like in this shot: Also, the additional red marks near the middle of the gun barrel don't belong, nor does that blue-gray stripe through the front red stripe. I'm not complaining, only pointing these out, if you wish to fix them (I could do it myself if I needed to (if it's a public release, which I assume it is)). Also, a second version with a little snow piled on it would be really awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeoMarz1 Posted October 30, 2003 Share Posted October 30, 2003 Originally posted by Manquesa Lookin good, I was planning on doing a snowspeeder as one of my next projects even I knew about this one, but now I don't think another version will be necessary. I'm curious though, will this thing be a flyable vehicle or more like the swoops, on land only. I ask because I know the snowspeeder can fly in the air more than a swoop or speeder but I think they're generally low altitude flying vehicles. I can't imagine one flying in space. Well I agree there, It would be better to make it more like the swoop bike. 1) It would be more usefull for maps. 2) Although speeders do have a much higher ceiling flight than your typical speeder, they are not space crafts. My guess is that they are intended to me mostly skimmers, however, they do need the capability to get across canyons, etc... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeoMarz1 Posted October 30, 2003 Share Posted October 30, 2003 Originally posted by Emon That's about perfect. My only suggestion is to make it a little brighter, like in this shot: Also, the additional red marks near the middle of the gun barrel don't belong, nor does that blue-gray stripe through the front red stripe. I'm not complaining, only pointing these out, if you wish to fix them (I could do it myself if I needed to (if it's a public release, which I assume it is)). Also, a second version with a little snow piled on it would be really awesome. I intend to brighten it up, just had that thought myself. Actually that photo your posting is not totally accurate. I am going off photos of the actual models used in the movie. The problem here, is that everytime someone makes a new model representation, they miss a detail here and there. I am actually using a little bit of everything that I find. Here are some of the things that I have found to be different from the "Actual Movie Model". This is from several different photos that I have found, not just yours, but I thought you would find this interesting. 1) Some of the models within the movie have maintenance panels removed. 2) Panel lines change on just about every model I have come across (even yours is different from the actuall movie blueprints). 3) Most models have a vent panel (my blue square just front side of the cockpit)... the crazy thing is that the vent panel is located in a different position on almost every one I come across, yours doesnt even have that panel. 4) Your Photo shows a network of grey panel lines (around the backside of the harpoon), which I havent found on any model I've come across (to include the movie model). 5) Your Photo also shows a yellow panel line on the front side of the wing... I havent seen this in any of the photos Ive come across. 6) The Laser Cannons in your photo are silver, The movie model they are "ceramic coat white" (which actually I like yours best). 7) On one photo I have come across the red marking are grey. 8) Here is the funniest thing I have come across.... The Laser Cannon's actual design changes from model to model. 9) Some models have the red stripe on the nose of the craft, and some dont. The reason I posted this is not to say your wrong, I'm just showing you that in most cases (even in the movies) that design change from ship to ship. I think that the creators get so tired of making the same models over and over, that they actually put a little change in each one for the sake of creativity. I think your photo has some great things that I am actually using on this skin (you may have noticed). To be honest I actually made some changes that are not accurate, but its pretty close. I will make a few adjustments that will make the model stand out better. Thanks for you comments, I understand the points you have made Mars out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manquesa Posted October 30, 2003 Share Posted October 30, 2003 I have to agree with that, I posted this link in imyourfather's original thread about this model in the JA Modeling forum -- http://www.starshipmodeler.com/starwars/smith_sw.htm This site has the original movies models of the ship and is what I used for reference when making the textures for the snowspeeder prefab for JO as seen here -- http://www.pcgamemods.com/445/s The movie version is the version I prefer, but that's just me. Also, I personally think the ship shouldn't be so bright and new, they're supposed to be dirty as the rebellion wasn't able to really take care of their ships and vehicles, they were just happy to keep them running and functional. Plus they should be battle scarred with blaster burns and what not, only problem with that is that everyone would have the exact same blaster burn marks and in the exact same spot on all of the ship, if you were playing a map where more than one person was flying one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tFighterPilot Posted October 30, 2003 Author Share Posted October 30, 2003 Originally posted by Manquesa Lookin good, I was planning on doing a snowspeeder as one of my next projects even I knew about this one, but now I don't think another version will be necessary. I'm curious though, will this thing be a flyable vehicle or more like the swoops, on land only. I ask because I know the snowspeeder can fly in the air more than a swoop or speeder but I think they're generally low altitude flying vehicles. I can't imagine one flying in space. I did thought about it, and decided to make it a ship. I mean, it would be boring if you won't be able to move up and down... I believe it is possible to control how much it can pitch, so I'll just set it on a low value. Swoop type isn't right for this because A)They can stop in mid air, and B)Because when you leave them, they stay in air(I think) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emon Posted October 31, 2003 Share Posted October 31, 2003 Hmm, I didn't realize that before, marz. I compared that with a movie photo, and they appeared identicle, so I posted this one because it was far clearer. I forgot about changes between physical models as props for the vehicles, just like how there are several versions of the E-11 prop. I think Luke's pistol in ESB was supposed to be the same as Han's, but because of the physical differences, they just called it something different later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeoMarz1 Posted October 31, 2003 Share Posted October 31, 2003 Originally posted by Emon Hmm, I didn't realize that before, marz. I compared that with a movie photo, and they appeared identicle, so I posted this one because it was far clearer. I forgot about changes between physical models as props for the vehicles, just like how there are several versions of the E-11 prop. I think Luke's pistol in ESB was supposed to be the same as Han's, but because of the physical differences, they just called it something different later. I know, its crazy isnt it? I was actually working on an old "Enterprise" resin model for Star Trek. I wanted it to be just like the model in the old T.V. series. I found out that they changed the design of the old Enterprise 3 times during the original series run. It was funny because they would sometimes use stock footage of the old model flying around, then use a newer model in the same episode. This kind of thing goes on all the time in the movies. Its funny. Also they changed Mace Windus saber in episode 2. To my knowledge Jedi's arent suppose to re-build thier sabers every other decade just to be fashionable. Oh well:rolleyes: Mars out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manquesa Posted October 31, 2003 Share Posted October 31, 2003 Originally posted by NeoMarz1 It would be better to make it more like the swoop bike. Originally posted by imyourfather Swoop type isn't right for this because A)They can stop in mid air, and B)Because when you leave them, they stay in air(I think) Hmm, 2 different answers from the makers, maybe a poll is in order Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaSiN_HeCk Posted October 31, 2003 Share Posted October 31, 2003 well, on Rogue Squadron, you can only fly so high off the ground, and if you flew off a moutain you just fell untill you got to the maxium altitude(sp?) I'd make it a ship unless modding the maxium hight would be easy enough to try, cause even if there is a space level you could still use this vehicle anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emon Posted October 31, 2003 Share Posted October 31, 2003 Look thouroughly through the VEH template files and figure out which option is currently the best until we can add new code. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tFighterPilot Posted October 31, 2003 Author Share Posted October 31, 2003 Mars... errr... I don't want to rush you or anything, but the screenshot you sent me 2 days ago looked great, practically done, so... what's going on? At least send me another screenshot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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