RedHawke Posted November 11, 2004 Share Posted November 11, 2004 ^^^^ I'm with you Aleggy. Originally posted by Darkside_tanro Vader was a poondangle. Anakin PWNZ. Anakin was stronger than vader ever was. I think falling in a volcano kinda has a effect on you. You do know Aniken is Vader right??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shok_Tinoktin Posted November 11, 2004 Share Posted November 11, 2004 I think he knows, thats why he said that falling in a volcanoe has that affect on you. I think he meant that Anakin was stronger before he fell in the lava and started wearing the Vader armor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aleggy Posted November 11, 2004 Share Posted November 11, 2004 Originally posted by Shok_Tinoktin I think he knows, thats why he said that falling in a volcanoe has that affect on you. I think he meant that Anakin was stronger before he fell in the lava and started wearing the Vader armor. i am aware of this but i was pointing out that this was not the case if you watch the films you'll see that the main difference is in the original trilogy vader only has 2 other jedi to be compared to obiwan and luke, luke was just a trainee, and obiwan let vader kill him so there wasnt really much to compare him where as in the new trilogy anikin/vader has plenty of jedi to be compared to, and he's not a very good one as i have pointed out in the previous post and i believe RedHawke was merely agreeing with me back on topic Revan pawns all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shok_Tinoktin Posted November 11, 2004 Share Posted November 11, 2004 Originally posted by RedHawke You do know Aniken is Vader right??? I was responding to that. And on topic, I'm gonna go with Vader. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime Posted November 11, 2004 Share Posted November 11, 2004 Vader > Revan > Anyone who says Revan is better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
90SK Posted November 11, 2004 Share Posted November 11, 2004 We really didn't see enough of Revan pre-mind wipe to understand his character, and post-mind wipe things get too confusing (what with the LS/DS endings and whatnot). Revan is all well and good, but I'm going to have to go with Vader (though I might change my opinion when we compare Vader to Nihilis ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FiEND_138 Posted November 11, 2004 Share Posted November 11, 2004 Originally posted by Prime Vader > Revan > Anyone who says Revan is better I agree with Prime.......again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stingerhs Posted November 11, 2004 Share Posted November 11, 2004 Originally posted by Prime Vader pwns all. All other discussion is pointless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedHawke Posted November 12, 2004 Share Posted November 12, 2004 Originally posted by Shok_Tinoktin I think he knows, thats why he said that falling in a volcanoe has that affect on you. I think he meant that Anakin was stronger before he fell in the lava and started wearing the Vader armor. Shok_Tinoktin, it appeared to me that Darkside_tanro doesn't know, which is the reason I asked if he knew. How would falling into lava diminish someones power, especially when they have the dark power to survive it? If anything he would be stronger after the expirience... And lastly, Vader is Aniken, so saying someone could defeat themselves is... rather... well it sounds... just a little strange. Back on topic: Originally posted by Prime Vader > Revan > Anyone who says Revan is better So true! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shok_Tinoktin Posted November 12, 2004 Share Posted November 12, 2004 I was just trying to explain what I thought he meant, not saying that I agree with him. Although GL does say that the fighting in the OT is not supposed to be as impressive in part due to the fact that Vader is crippled. Regardless, I consider him to have become Vader before actually falling in the lava, so discussing that is somewhat pointless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil Dark Jedi Posted November 12, 2004 Share Posted November 12, 2004 Vader cause he is the r0x0rz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyborgninja Posted November 12, 2004 Share Posted November 12, 2004 Revan>blind preschoolers of America>then Vader Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deathdisco Posted November 12, 2004 Share Posted November 12, 2004 Hmmm.. Let's see:vadar: By the will of the force Anakin/Vader is invincible. Why? Anakin/Vader's destiny was to destroy the Emperor/Sith. In doing so redeeming himself and bringing balance to the force. Who else can call the force their daddy? Other wise Anakin would of perished in the lava. Vader's death can happen only when he fulfills his destiny. Revan's destiny is yet to play out. I don't think he would fair to well if he took a dip in a volcano. I find the lack of faith disturbing:vadar: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aleggy Posted November 12, 2004 Share Posted November 12, 2004 i think your reaching just a bit i do not believe that the prophecy is the reason that anikin survived the lava bath and for whats its worth when luke skywalker was first starting the school for jedi on yavin 4 he went to look for apprentices and while doing this on one planet he actualy 'walked' on lava and this is not due to any prophecy luke had to fill and i am sure that if in kotor you had had to fall in lava revan would have survived and the sole reason i vote for revan is for the silly reason you get to be revan lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth333 Posted November 12, 2004 Share Posted November 12, 2004 Since I only play the game for testing mods now, my Revan, with his/her min1hp is unbeatable and could even survive a lava bath Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime Posted November 12, 2004 Share Posted November 12, 2004 Originally posted by jackofblades Revan>blind preschoolers of America>then Vader It is you who are mistaken...about a great many things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChAiNz.2da Posted November 12, 2004 Share Posted November 12, 2004 Originally posted by Darth333 Since I only play the game for testing mods now, my Revan, with his/her min1hp is unbeatable and could even survive a lava bath ^^^ [vader] "I haven't felt a presence in the force like this, since...." [/vader] wonders how long it will be till Darth333's robe becomes black once again ::: watches avatar ::: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyborgninja Posted November 12, 2004 Share Posted November 12, 2004 Originally posted by Prime It is you who are mistaken...about a great many things. correction u are mistaken Revan>retired vietnam veterns>blind preschoolers of america>C3PO>then vader Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOutrider Posted November 12, 2004 Share Posted November 12, 2004 Originally posted by jackofblades correction u are mistaken Revan>retired vietnam veterns>blind preschoolers of america>C3PO>then vader Umm Dude, I believe that you are the one who is REALLY mistaken. But Vader is the pwnage Vader>Revan>Everyovdy on LF> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyborgninja Posted November 12, 2004 Share Posted November 12, 2004 off topic-K u can flame me I don't care but stat wise I am better then u Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aleggy Posted November 12, 2004 Share Posted November 12, 2004 Originally posted by Darth333 Since I only play the game for testing mods now, my Revan, with his/her min1hp is unbeatable and could even survive a lava bath any chance of a link to that mod Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darth_nemisis Posted November 12, 2004 Share Posted November 12, 2004 IMO, I think this would be a good match, but I think Vader would come out on top. The reason is because he is Darth Vader, the chosen one. He was conceived by the Force, and is the dark Lord of the Sith! I know he wears a heavy black suit, but that would make him faster cause he along with the suit, he had implants that would make him faster. So, I give it to Vader. darth_nemisis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedHawke Posted November 13, 2004 Share Posted November 13, 2004 Originally posted by Prime It is you who are mistaken...about a great many things. I fully agree Prime! Originally posted by jackofblades correction u are mistaken Revan>retired vietnam veterns>blind preschoolers of america>C3PO>then vader Ok, how is re-posting the same, or similar statement over and over going to prove your point? Looks more like a +1 post to me, but I could be wrong... I might suggest that you need to elaborate on your claims a little more with something a little more in-depth than "Revan pwns!" Then perhaps tell us all why does Revan win? Remember Star Wars is all about Aniken Skywalker/Darth Vader, it is ultimately his story and his galaxy that we are talking about here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJL Posted November 15, 2004 Share Posted November 15, 2004 Which one is more advanced use of the force in the movies (Force Grip) or (Force Lightning) ?? Somehow I have been under impression that the very precise and controlled tele kinetic use of force required for gripping is not something every jedi/sith can do but Anakin can do that because he was conceived by the force and because of that he is soo damn over powered... (Luke is Anakins son so he is pretty damn powerfull too so he can too...) And Force Grip is more powerfull than lightning because there isn't really any way to block it and you don't even need to be any where close to the guy you are trying to grip, you just need to be able to see/sense him... Soo... When Revan and Vader fight I think Vader would kill Revan... (he would just strangle him where he stands...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aleggy Posted November 15, 2004 Share Posted November 15, 2004 ^^^^ i believe force immunity will fend off the force grip, however i do think you are right the force grip is far more effective if you only have one opponent and i do belie that it does require more skill here are my reasons why force lightning just point your dark sithy hand and fire away force grip you have to concentrate on the target and reach out with the force and squeeze however if you have multiple opponents the force lightning is far more effective (if you've upgraded your force lightning so you can hit multiple subjects) unless you are able to force grip multiple subjects which i am unaware of as i dont really use it RedHawke would br the one to ask as a better judge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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