lukeiamyourdad Posted December 31, 2004 Share Posted December 31, 2004 1-No limits because every civ should be generic. 2-No limits but civ are unique. The better player should be able to pull off anything(Rebel Victory gained by a head-to-head battle, Empire should be able to sneak around). 3-Limit the tactics. Rebels simply shouldn't be allowed to go head-to-head against an enemy, Empire shouldn't be able to sneak around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FroZticles Posted December 31, 2004 Share Posted December 31, 2004 I chose the 2nd one Imperial do have sneak attack with assination missions and commando type stuff so I don't see the big deal with any side using any tactic that will win them a battle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DK_Viceroy Posted December 31, 2004 Share Posted December 31, 2004 While I love that someone has made a thread like this it will end up turning into a flame war with everyone against Windu. Though that's not nessacerily a bad thing:p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lukeiamyourdad Posted December 31, 2004 Author Share Posted December 31, 2004 I thought it would be a good idea to try and solve this once and for all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DK_Viceroy Posted December 31, 2004 Share Posted December 31, 2004 I'm not disputing that I'd personally like to See Windu get a big kick in the teeth perhaps he might stop arguing a point everyone know's he's wrong about, Jeez even I know when to admit I'm wrong, and that's on thing I think everyone here would admit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Windu Posted December 31, 2004 Share Posted December 31, 2004 Viceroy- I'd personally like to See Windu get a big kick in the teeth I do NOT appreciate talk like that. Remove it, now. luke - the problem with your poll is that it does not accurately reflect what I was saying. I said that the Rebels should be able to go head-to-head with the Empire, but should fail. I also said that it is impossible for guys in shiny white suits to sneak around, and same for large noisy droids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FroZticles Posted December 31, 2004 Share Posted December 31, 2004 So if the Rebels have 30000 troops and the Empire only has 2 AT-ST in a head-to-head battle the Rebels should lose? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Windu Posted January 1, 2005 Share Posted January 1, 2005 FroZ - no, that would be a massacre. The whole concept of a head-to-head battle is roughly equal forces, with the aim of defeating your enemy militarily. Some examples of this are the Battles of Coral Sea, Midway, Kursk, Waterloo, Trafalgar, Jutland etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DK_Viceroy Posted January 1, 2005 Share Posted January 1, 2005 Windu the day I obey anything you say will be the day I become a Purist. It is also further proof of your selective reading. Kursk was not equal the Soviets had a clear numerical superiority. 30,000 troops V 2 AT-AT's let's see the rebels would win that, just get up AT-AT and into the control room of one and the other would fall quite quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lukeiamyourdad Posted January 1, 2005 Author Share Posted January 1, 2005 Originally posted by Darth Windu luke - the problem with your poll is that it does not accurately reflect what I was saying. I said that the Rebels should be able to go head-to-head with the Empire, but should fail. I also said that it is impossible for guys in shiny white suits to sneak around, and same for large noisy droids. I'm sure you like to play with fog of war off but some of us do play it like it is supposed to be played. As long as you're out of the enemy's LOS, you're as good as invisible. Thus, you could sneak a small force of Stormies pass the enemy and attack them from behind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FroZticles Posted January 1, 2005 Share Posted January 1, 2005 What's the fun if fog is off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Windu Posted January 1, 2005 Share Posted January 1, 2005 luke - I would ask you stop making unsubstanciated claims but I know you wont. In fact, I never play with fog-of-war off in any of the numerous RTS' I own, so get your facts straight. Also, being inside the FoW for the enemy does not make your units stealthy. When you use the term 'stealth', I take it to mean a reduced enemy LOS or cloak, none of which appear in your example, and hence do not qualify as stealth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lukeiamyourdad Posted January 1, 2005 Author Share Posted January 1, 2005 I said sneak, not stealth. Sneaking a battalion of troops behind enemy lines does not always imply stealthed units in an RTS. I know realism is very very important for you but in an RTS, you can actually bypass enemy lines by hiding them outside of the enemy's LOS. This is what I meant by sneaking. Besides, who's stupid enough to send even stealthed units directly into an enemy base without fear of detection units? They go around and to be safe, they try to stay away from enemy LOS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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