Infern0 Posted August 8, 2005 Share Posted August 8, 2005 That would make him around 85 in TPM and he didn't look that old. I know, but if he was using the force to alter his appearance and age as I was saying, his physical appearance in Menace really wouldn't matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leviathan Posted August 8, 2005 Share Posted August 8, 2005 But if he had used the Force to hide his true age, the risk to be discovered would have been greater... (I think...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK-8252 Posted August 8, 2005 Share Posted August 8, 2005 Anyway, even if he did know how to save life, it only makes him a bigger liar, because he told Anakin at first that he HAD the power, then later tells him they must work together to discover it. He's a liar! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkest Wolf Posted August 8, 2005 Share Posted August 8, 2005 If it's true then couldn't Anakin have used it at the end of return of the Jedi to keep himself alive? I know that Palpatine says that Plagus couldn't use it to save himself but I think that's because he was dead before he had a chance to use it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkest Wolf Posted August 8, 2005 Share Posted August 8, 2005 Palpatine surely wasn't that old in RotS. That would make him around 85 in TPM and he didn't look that old. I read in a book about the phantom menace that Darth Sidious was over 1000 years old, so maby he had used the force to hide hide his his age and when Windu deflected the force lightning back in to him he was so badly hurt that he could no longer keep using the force to look young. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK-8252 Posted August 8, 2005 Share Posted August 8, 2005 Like I said... Some recent sources say that it's not Sidious's "true form" but just damage done by Sith lightning. The official site being one of them. The other is Star Wars Insider. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkest Wolf Posted August 8, 2005 Share Posted August 8, 2005 The only part that we know is for real true in the legend of Darth Plagueis is that he was indeed Sidious's master, and Sidious indeed killed him in his sleep (the sound of the lightsaber igniting would wake him up, so no he wouldn't have used his lightsaber to kill him). I don't think that the noise made by the lightsaber would have been loud enough to wake him up after all in episode 2 Anakin uses his saber to cut in to the back of the building where his mother is and the sand people do not seem to hear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK-8252 Posted August 8, 2005 Share Posted August 8, 2005 I don't think that the noise made by the lightsaber would have been loud enough to wake him up after all in episode 2 Anakin uses his saber to cut in to the back of the building where his mother is and the sand people do not seem to hear. That's because the Massifs were fighting, which distracted the Tusken Raiders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkest Wolf Posted August 8, 2005 Share Posted August 8, 2005 Anyway, even if he did know how to save life, it only makes him a bigger liar, because he told Anakin at first that he HAD the power, then later tells him they must work together to discover it. He's a liar! Maby he had the power but didn't want to tell Anakin how to do it, in case Anakin did to him what he did to Plageus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK-8252 Posted August 8, 2005 Share Posted August 8, 2005 Like I said... Anyway, even if he did know how to save life, it only makes him a bigger liar, because he told Anakin at first that he HAD the power, then later tells him they must work together to discover it. He's a liar! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pho3nix Posted August 8, 2005 Share Posted August 8, 2005 I think so. But this is just my insight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthTDe Posted August 9, 2005 Share Posted August 9, 2005 (the sound of the lightsaber igniting would wake him up, so no he wouldn't have used his lightsaber to kill him). He could have ignited it outside of the room,and came in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK-8252 Posted August 9, 2005 Share Posted August 9, 2005 He could have ignited it outside of the room,and came in. The lightsaber makes a hum when ignited. Even when asleep, such a powerful Sith Lord like Darth Plagueis should be able to sense an active lightsaber in the room. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthTDe Posted August 9, 2005 Share Posted August 9, 2005 It wouldn't be that loud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leviathan Posted August 9, 2005 Share Posted August 9, 2005 Anyway, even if he did know how to save life, it only makes him a bigger liar, because he told Anakin at first that he HAD the power, then later tells him they must work together to discover it. He's a liar! You have noticed that, but not Skywalker !... This is a detail I consider almost un-realistic... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK-8252 Posted August 9, 2005 Share Posted August 9, 2005 It wouldn't be that loud. If it's not loud enough to wake him up then he would be able to sense it. After all, Plagueis is supposedly this super powerful Sith Lord. Someone said that the story is, Sidious stabbed him with a knife. Bah this is a dumb thing to argue over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthTDe Posted August 9, 2005 Share Posted August 9, 2005 yeah,you're right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Smaug Posted August 9, 2005 Author Share Posted August 9, 2005 The lightsaber makes a hum when ignited. Even when asleep, such a powerful Sith Lord like Darth Plagueis should be able to sense an active lightsaber in the room. Plagueis was very old when he got killed i mean VERY old..An his powers where beginning to grow weak so it could have bin that he sensed it too late.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK-8252 Posted August 9, 2005 Share Posted August 9, 2005 Being old doesn't mean you lose Force power. Look at how strong in the Force Yoda, Ben, and Sidious were before they died. Hell, Sidious could do backflips and twirl though the air as we see in RotS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthTDe Posted August 9, 2005 Share Posted August 9, 2005 True. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leviathan Posted August 11, 2005 Share Posted August 11, 2005 And what about Yoda in The Empire Strikes Back ? He was still a Jedi Master (Even if he was old), but he walked with a stick, rose on the back of Luke, etc... He didn't use the Force to do his famous jumps he used to do in Episode II and III... Contrary to Palpatine, in ROTS... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK-8252 Posted August 11, 2005 Share Posted August 11, 2005 He got weak physically. He was just as strong in the Force as he was if not stronger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leviathan Posted August 11, 2005 Share Posted August 11, 2005 In that case, if he was as strong in the Force as in the past, he could have used the Force to move... (To carry him as on a cloud) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurgan Posted August 11, 2005 Share Posted August 11, 2005 Perhaps he felt gratuitous displays of power like that were unnecessary to train Luke for what he had in mind (or worse, would tempt the boy to be greedy and power-mad like Anakin, seeing his "potential" to become powerful quickly). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Smaug Posted August 11, 2005 Author Share Posted August 11, 2005 Yoda was to old to move that quikly again but he was strong in the force remember that he pulled the X Wing of Luke out of the water.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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