The Source Posted November 13, 2005 Share Posted November 13, 2005 That the Chosen One be concieved by the Force (no father), like Anakin. So sorry, but Luke is not the Chosen One. And George Lucas has already said on numerous documentaries that Anakin is indeed the Chosen One, so really, no point in trying to speculate about this. Just accept the truth and stop trying to speculate about something that we already know the answer to. It would be closed minded to not look at the possibilities. Because George Lucas says something, doesn't mean it was sucessfully executed. As an artist myself, I see multiple interpretations in art. Movie creating is art. "It is not what you are on the inside, but what you do that defines you." Lucas may have said that Anikan is the chosen one, but he didn't clearly execute it in the dialogue and actions of his movies. I see no problem in speculation. If you remember, Yoda and the other Masters questioned about Anikan being the choosen one. At one point, they were even refusing to teach Anikan. Why would you not want to teach 'The Chosen One'? If Anikan was truely 'The Chosen One', all the other Jedi Masters would have felt something. However, they all questioned the truth... Therefore, there is room to speculate about this. Unfortunatly, this is not the thread... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK-8252 Posted November 13, 2005 Share Posted November 13, 2005 So George Lucas, the God of Star Wars, has said that Anakin is the Chosen One, yet you say George Lucas is wrong and Anakin isn't the Chosen One? Your logic fails. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Source Posted November 13, 2005 Share Posted November 13, 2005 So George Lucas, the God of Star Wars, has said that Anakin is the Chosen One, yet you say George Lucas is wrong and Anakin isn't the Chosen One? Your logic fails. Actually, if you read my comments, you will noticed that I mentioned about George not executing his intention in film. If George says he is 'The Chosen One', why did he not make it conclusive in his films? Why would a movie lie? It is all about story telling. I think there is room to speculate this, but not in this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK-8252 Posted November 13, 2005 Share Posted November 13, 2005 Have you even seen RotJ? Because Vader kills Sidious, and ends his own life, thus destroying the Sith. Just like the prophecy said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Source Posted November 13, 2005 Share Posted November 13, 2005 Have you even seen RotJ? Because Vader kills Sidious, and ends his own life, thus destroying the Sith. Just like the prophecy said. However, Luke pulled the trigger. Luke convinced Vader to turn from the Darkside. Luke's actions brought balance to the force by convincing Vader to come back to the light. Luke confronted the Sith, and took action to bring an ending to the Darkside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Posted November 13, 2005 Share Posted November 13, 2005 I think he made it one of those things that you have to read into a little bit before you can actually understand it. After I saw TPM, I thought that the prophecy was wrong and Luke was the chosen one, but after watching RotJ some more I realized that the prophecy really was true, and Anakin was indeed the chosen one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK-8252 Posted November 13, 2005 Share Posted November 13, 2005 Apparently you don't know what the prophecy is. Did Luke have a father? Yes, it was Anakin. Therefore he is NOT the Chosen One, period. The Chosen One is concieved by the Force. And Luke didn't kill Sidious. It was Vader who chose to kill Sidious, not Luke. Luke was too busy getting his ass fried while he's lying on the floor screaming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Source Posted November 13, 2005 Share Posted November 13, 2005 I think he made it one of those things that you have to read into a little bit before you can actually understand it. After I saw TPM, I thought that the prophecy was wrong and Luke was the chosen one, but after watching RotJ some more I realized that the prophecy really was true, and Anakin was indeed the chosen one. I will watch 'Return of the Jedi' again, and see if anything has changed for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d5c Posted December 1, 2005 Share Posted December 1, 2005 what is that sopoused to mean ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ!#@$? BORING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynk Former Posted December 1, 2005 Share Posted December 1, 2005 d5c, if you don't have anything constructive to add to a thread then don't post at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoiuyWired Posted December 1, 2005 Share Posted December 1, 2005 Well, Anakin is the chosen one in that he brings balance to the force. Ok sure that is quite a bit of Nihilism involved, but still. What the Jedis don't see is that they are actually causing unbalance to the force as much as the sith with their own extremeist view. Anakin cleanse both sides by Taking down most Ancient Minded Jedi Masters and one of the most powerful Sith Orders(well, technically things like Naddists are Sith too). In a way, Anakin is The End for a New Beginning. Luke is just starting on a new page. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime Posted December 2, 2005 Share Posted December 2, 2005 What the Jedis don't see is that they are actually causing unbalance to the force as much as the sith with their own extremeist view. Anakin cleanse both sides by Taking down most Ancient Minded Jedi Masters and one of the most powerful Sith Orders(well, technically things like Naddists are Sith too). This is incorrect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK-1818 Posted December 11, 2005 Share Posted December 11, 2005 Notice how the prophecy is said, "One who will destroy the Sith, and bring balance to the Force." Anakin obviously knew the prophecy and himself was told that he was the chosen one so he did fufill the prophecy in reverse. He brought balance to the Force by bringing out the Sith (Because clearly the light side had the upperhand during the PT so Jedi-Jedi + Sith-Sith = 0) and then about say 10-20 years later destroyed the Sith. Thus in turn making no sence to anything after that such as the Jedi Knight series, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astrotoy7 Posted December 11, 2005 Share Posted December 11, 2005 hehe... I always thought "balance" was a inappropriate term. When something is balanced, you have equal propoertions of opposing entities/amounts .. If there are no sith, it surely isnt a balance. A word like "cleanse" the force is more appropriate, though perhaps not very PC mtfbwya Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Sitherino Posted December 11, 2005 Share Posted December 11, 2005 hehe... I always thought "balance" was a inappropriate term. When something is balanced, you have equal propoertions of opposing entities/amounts .. If there are no sith, it surely isnt a balance. A word like "cleanse" the force is more appropriate, though perhaps not very PC mtfbwya I think the "balance of the force" goes back to Lucas' inspiration by asian cinema and history. Lots of martial practices use the term "Balance" in a sense of self-harmony rather than "equal amounts". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kotorfan84 Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 However, Luke pulled the trigger. Luke convinced Vader to turn from the Darkside. Luke's actions brought balance to the force by convincing Vader to come back to the light. Luke confronted the Sith, and took action to bring an ending to the Darkside. no Anakin was the chosen one, George Lucas even said it in one of the interviews on the ROTS DVD. Yes Luke played a major role in it, but in the end Vader made the choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth_Extas Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 Very True Kotorfan. I as well would believe that it was up to Anakin to decide whether to end his son's life or to end the his life as well as Sidious's. So in fact the proficy came true ending the dark side of the force... for a certain amount of time, remember Palpatine gets reborn after the Battle of Endor. So the Prophicy may have been wrong although it as well could have been right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Point Man Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 Sorry to resurrect an old, dead thread, but in answer to this question Is darth Sidious/Palpatine/The Emperor the apprentice of Darth Plageus ??? "It is unclear how Palpatine fell under the mentorship of the Sith Lord Darth Plagueis, and little is known of Plagueis's (sic) own career...Sidious killed Darth Plagueis in his sleep. The work necessary to create a Force-conceived child continued, however. It is unclear whether Plagueis had initiated the process before his death, or whether Sidious instead implemented his former master's plan for his own dark purposes...On Tatooine, the slave Shmi Skywalker had given birth to a child more powerful in the Force than any other in history--the apparent product of forbidden research initiated by Darth Plagueis and taken up by Darth Sidious." Wallace, Daniel, & Anderson, Kevin. (2005). Star Wars: The New Essential Chronology. New York: Del Rey. p. 32. So, according to this source (debate among yourselves whether you choose to believe it--I do), not only was Sidious the apprentice of Plagueis, but Anakin was the result of their search to create life through the Force. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
†Saint_Killa† Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 So this explains why Darth Sidious wanted Anakin to go darkside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Macca Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 Sidious was the apprentice of Darth Plageuis - FACT. Here's the proof... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darth_Plagueis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth_Terros Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 Sidious was the apprentice of Darth Plageuis - FACT. Here's the proof... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darth_Plagueis Wiki doesnt = fact But anyway yes Palpatine was his apprentice its mentioned in the Labirynth of evil book and the dark lord book Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Alec Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 Anakin was the chosen one, no jedi+no sith= balance. Then Luke (who used both sides) came and made a new jedi order, wich also uses both sides of the force. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth_Terros Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 Anakin was the chosen one, no jedi+no sith= balance. Then Luke (who used both sides) came and made a new jedi order, wich also uses both sides of the force. Thats not quite right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foshjedi2004 Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 Jacen Used both Sides. Not Luke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 Wiki doesnt = factThis can't be stressed enough. Anakin was the chosen one, no jedi+no sith= balance.No, no Sith = balance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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