Darth Andrew Posted October 8, 2005 Share Posted October 8, 2005 I've been wondering for a while that since Darth Vader can't use Force Lightning, how does he use Force Choke or Force Pull? Force Lightning I guess requires a flesh and bone hand, but why do Choke and Pull not require this? Also, in Episode V, how does Vader manage to choke Admiral Ozzel when they aren't in each other's presence? Help a fellow geek understand this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Sitherino Posted October 8, 2005 Share Posted October 8, 2005 He can't use lightning because it would destroy his life support system in his suit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
90SK Posted October 8, 2005 Share Posted October 8, 2005 Yeah, and force lightning is messier. I mean, it may stray and overload nearby equipment, or catch other officers. It's just a big hassle, while choke is much more precise and menacing (if less impressive). But regardless, as Insane Sith said, he can't use it anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Andrew Posted October 8, 2005 Author Share Posted October 8, 2005 But regardless, as Insane Sith said, he can't use it anyway.But then how does he use choke, pull, etc? Does it flow through the artificial arm and 'activate' with the certain hand motion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Sitherino Posted October 8, 2005 Share Posted October 8, 2005 Those are telekinetic powers, as in they're powers of the mind. Force Lightning uses the arm as a projection device. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Andrew Posted October 8, 2005 Author Share Posted October 8, 2005 Those are telekinetic powers, as in they're powers of the mind. Force Lightning uses the arm as a projection device.Then what's the point of Vader's infamous 'handgrip' motion whenever he has a choke hold on someone? Does it help him focus, or is it just for show? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Sitherino Posted October 8, 2005 Share Posted October 8, 2005 Then what's the point of Vader's infamous 'handgrip' motion whenever he has a choke hold on someone? Does it help him focus, or is it just for show? Theatrics holds a power of it's own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
90SK Posted October 8, 2005 Share Posted October 8, 2005 Does it help him focus, or is it just for show? A visual always helps, yeah. But he doesn't always need to; remember when he kills Admiral Ozzel? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coupes. Posted October 8, 2005 Share Posted October 8, 2005 Remembre when he chokes Admiral Ozzel in Empire Strikes Back, he's not moving, he's not even in the same room, so his move was basically just for show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jan Gaarni Posted October 8, 2005 Share Posted October 8, 2005 Like the others said, choking people or pushing, pulling, or blocking, any of that is unnecessary to use your hands at all. Though maybe when you pull stuff towards you it might be wise to be ready with your hands to catch it so this doesn't happen. Basically, it's for dramatic effect. And I don't mean movie dramatic effect on the silver screen, just plain and simple dramatic effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurgan Posted October 9, 2005 Share Posted October 9, 2005 I don't see why he can't just build some special "lightning gauntlets" into his suit's arms, since they're artificial anyway, but I guess LucasLiscensing has spoken, and it's "official." Blah... It's all because they wanted to have Dooku use lightning, now they have to explain why every Sith can't use it! Of course it's even more common in the games and EU... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JawaJoey Posted November 7, 2005 Share Posted November 7, 2005 Why do people assume that he can't use Force lightning just because he doesn't? It's possible that in the case of lightning, actual connected fingers help, but maybe Vader just prefers Choke becuase it's no muss, no fuss, no chance of shorting out the delicate electrical equipment that keeps him alive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurgan Posted November 10, 2005 Share Posted November 10, 2005 True. Maybe Force Lightning just isn't Vader's style. Very sensible explanation, actually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobQel-Droma Posted November 10, 2005 Share Posted November 10, 2005 Well, apparently he can't use it because of of his mechanical arms. But like everything else, it doesn't require the hand things. Those were just for show I guess, so that people wouldn't be choking all around Vader and he wouldn't be doing anything noticeable. EDIT: Ha ha, that spoof was super funny . Make sure when you pull something you have the power to stop it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurgan Posted November 10, 2005 Share Posted November 10, 2005 How about this... Vader has removable hands. He pops off his robot hand and shoots lightning out of his stump! *Forwards the idea to Lucas* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ABCIMe123 Posted August 18, 2006 Share Posted August 18, 2006 Yeah, telekenisis is all done in your mind. And if you think about it to a certain degree Force Grip could be considered a Force Push and Force Pull around a person's neck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coupes. Posted August 18, 2006 Share Posted August 18, 2006 Please stop bumping old threads. This one is almost a year old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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