machievelli Posted November 5, 2006 Author Share Posted November 5, 2006 Do you also review ART ?? Just curious ... Or does there have to be actual text next to the drawings ? Kiddo, what I know about art can be written on the inside of a matchbook with a heavy felt marker. I do not feel qualified to have an opinions beyond simple like and dislike. However I am in the market fro some artwork if it isn't too expensive. I need covers for my books. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jae Onasi Posted November 5, 2006 Share Posted November 5, 2006 Kiddo, what I know about art can be written on the inside of a matchbook with a heavy felt marker. Don't feel bad--you have me beat. I have all the art capacity of a dead amoeba. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quanon Posted November 5, 2006 Share Posted November 5, 2006 Ow , well yeah its a bit different ofcourse .You can discuss taste's , but its the same for books and text's . And I think if you consider age and all , which I'm sure you do for the FIC's . With drawings , digital or handmade ... weird seems like something that's is completly ( spelling !!!) visual is hard to give comment. But I see youre point , giving constructive critisem is hard . I just wandered if this was already done or could be done in a same sort of thread . Don't now if any body on the forums has some art background , who could do this , if he/she wants it . Then not to many post art-work . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machievelli Posted November 5, 2006 Author Share Posted November 5, 2006 Don't feel bad--you have me beat. I have all the art capacity of a dead amoeba. What level would you assign to someone who looked at Picasso's 'Nude Descending a Staircase' and said it looked like 'an overlay of time lapsed photography, and I think she is really dressed'? But I see youre point, giving constructive critisem is hard. I just wandered if this was already done or could be done in a same sort of thread . Don't now if any body on the forums has some art background , who could do this , if he/she wants it . Then not to many post art-work . What you could do is ask Darth333 to advertize for an art critic. That's how I got this job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor Devon Posted November 5, 2006 Share Posted November 5, 2006 Don't feel bad--you have me beat. I have all the art capacity of a dead amoeba. *Devon points and jeers at Jae* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diego Varen Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 Perhaps I could be a Critic for Art... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JediMaster12 Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 Even dead amoebas can create art. If I can create a fossil hyolitha to wear then I am sure Jae has sufficient art capacity. Seriously art is not difficult to critique if you have what is called the elements, certain points that artist and critics use as a guideline to assess and create art. It also requires thinking criticially though I'm not sure if Jae's nemisis can do that. Anyway if anyone is serious about having art critique, do as mach suggests and appeal to the Super Mod. It doesn't hurt to ask. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor Devon Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 It also requires thinking criticially though I'm not sure if Jae's nemisis can do that. Actually, drawing is my third favorite hobby. I've considered it one since before I could spell my name. Shows what you know of me. Not to say I'm thinking of asking for the position, though. @Potts, if you want to be a critic for art, you should first know that it's not supposed to be capitalized. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diego Varen Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 @Potts, if you want to be a critic for art, you should first know that it's not supposed to be capitalized. , I'm not the best expert for criticing art. But yeah, perhaps Darth333 could advertise, like mach said. Also Emperor D, why don't you post some art if you've got some? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machievelli Posted November 6, 2006 Author Share Posted November 6, 2006 Even dead amoebas can create art. Then my rating is even lower. I have written 3 fairy-in the-real-world books this year and three full sword and sorcery fantasy books, but every time I try to create a cover it isn't worth the pixels I used to create it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jae Onasi Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 What level would you assign to someone who looked at Picasso's 'Nude Descending a Staircase' and said it looked like 'an overlay of time lapsed photography, and I think she is really dressed'? If you're talking about someone posting an image like that.... This one's real simple if you're talking about someone posting it in this forum--if it looks nude or pornographic, it'll get nuked--it has to comply with fanart rules and forum rules and I'm not going to play semantics with the regs. There is no leeway on that rule. Someone posting such will get at least a warning if not banned. Now if you're talking about someone making that critique, it would redline my crap detector, and I'd probably ask them where they got the good drugs. But then again, I'm the practical one of the family and tend to look at things for what they are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quanon Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 Well , Picasso is ok and I know the painting , but I'm not talking about the big ART , just what fan's make . I think their a lot of people on this forum who like to draw stuff about star wars , but are just to shy to show it , I'm sure they could get better at it in time . But to improve some-one has to show where you go wrong , our what to base youre style on . And reading throw this thread I can see by MAch reviewing things and giving comments , writers of FAN fics can improve them selves . I just thought it might work , but then again their need be lots of art/ drawings be made . And it takes time and practise to . ( Easy for me to say , already followed six years of art school and now in games-design ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jae Onasi Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 Well , Picasso is ok and I know the painting , but I'm not talking about the big ART , just what fan's make . I think their a lot of people on this forum who like to draw stuff about star wars , but are just to shy to show it , I'm sure they could get better at it in time . But to improve some-one has to show where you go wrong , our what to base youre style on . And reading throw this thread I can see by MAch reviewing things and giving comments , writers of FAN fics can improve them selves . I just thought it might work , but then again their need be lots of art/ drawings be made . And it takes time and practise to . ( Easy for me to say , already followed six years of art school and now in games-design ) Oh, I'm not saying don't have art--I love seeing it here. And a good constructive critique is always helpful no matter what the medium. It's just the only thing I would feel comfortable critiquing are scrapbook pages and stick people. I can draw a mean stick person, complete with 3 hairs sticking straight up out of the top of his head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JediMaster12 Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 Three hairs? I used to be able to put four and it looked like a box top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quanon Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 You don't need to be an artist to give critique on art . Most people can see if a picture doesn't has perspective or it's not all in one style , or its just doesn't make sense what pose a character takes .( you can't bend your knee up with a smile on your face ) . Same goes for text and books , you don't be writer to tell if the story is messy and confusing . Ofcourse for certain things like how to make a story reach , exciting. And to be a bit more believable you want some-one with a background in that area . I now some people never want to take comment . It would be just cool if some could point me the way ... but then again I think there's to little fan art posted here , the guy would fall a sleep or lose interest. And most of all a DEEP knowledge of the star wars universe , like a jedi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torthane Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 There is actually quite alot of art here now. I have two pieces I posted and an illustrated fic that has two more in it already and will likely end up with dozens. My stuff is just a small fraction of what is out there though. Just yesterday a new meber posted a bunch of really great art that makes my stuff look like bantha poo-do. Just in the time I have been here (just over half a year) the amount of art has tripled at least. I personally think it would be great if we had an art critic, but it's totally up to you guys; I don't have the credentials to criticise other people's work myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machievelli Posted November 7, 2006 Author Share Posted November 7, 2006 Jae, I made that comment when I was nineteen years old at the New York Metropolitan art museum to a girl who asked me what I thought. Of course she didn't talk to me again. Of course every woman that has known me for a while can tell you that when it comes to women flirting, I'm even more dense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSR Posted November 7, 2006 Share Posted November 7, 2006 @ mach- Is it a case of "nice legs! how much?" @Torthane- There is a heck of a load of art on these boards, and its all amazing. I cant believe i've been so ignorant of this place for the past year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machievelli Posted November 10, 2006 Author Share Posted November 10, 2006 Coruscant Entertainment Center War and Love LordRevan123 After KOTOR II: Revan and the Exile return to Telos The style is a bit hurried. You are forgetting conversation breaks (New paragraph) editing (Word usage) and the work needs polishing. Other than that it isn’t so bad. Trooper Ambrose The start of the Mandalorian wars from the view in the trenches. The style is a bit on the young side, but most of the authors are, here. The storyline is interesting, since few have considered the common grunts in the stories. The Jedi, and later the Clones get most of it. I agree with most of the others; write more. One minor problem: Tatooine according to all of the stories was first owned by several corporations over the centuries, (KOTOR I for example) and during the time of the Phantom Menace was owned by the Hutt. As far as I know it was not a member planet. Star Wars the rise of Darth Plagius Darth Grivis Prior to The Phantom Menace: In an alternate universe, another dark lord begins his conquest. First, you need to break the work into paragraphs. It was a lot more than two. Second, you were rushing the story. Slow it down, smooth it out. It should flow like a river, not hit people like a landslide. I thought it interesting that your villain thought he could pull off the same trick as Sidious. Without the political wrangling, he would have failed. Second, Yoda said in Phantom Menace ‘Always two and no more’, suggesting that the Academy you have created would not have existed. That is a minor flaw, however. The Jedi Archives The Adventures of Jolee Bindo Jae Onasi In the interim between KOTOR I and II. An Apprentice gets an unlikely master. Jae had sent this to me, asking me to proofread it and offer corrections. Sadly the copy I sent to her disappeared, and will have to be redone, but i can say it all in one sentence. You don’t need advice. Just keep writing. I think it is interesting that this is the first mention that an apprentice can refuse to accept a teacher as master. Though the idea makes sense. Like a lot of the kids I have read in my year of critiquing, I want to go back and read it all. Galactic Senate Coruscant Theater Whisper Tyjinn Miirrlanai As Vader dies: What if the force could talk? The only two complaints about this work are that the paragraphs tend to run on, and there’s not more of it! Excellent work! The Truth That You Refuse DarthAJ Luke AU- Between the Thrawn Trilogy and JAT Chapter 1: Luke is held prisoner. The style is good, the sense of foreboding fitting. It needs polish, but beyond that it works well. The Corellian Connection Fish1941 The sequel to Altered Lives. An Imperial Laison, a dark Jedi, hunts a Jedi on one of the Republic’s planets. The style is good, and the story flows smoothly. Well worth the read. It would be best to read the first story before reading this one. kotorfanmedia The Light Side female Revan section I have been mining is still down so I am still in the light side female exile index. Not that I am complaining... Echo Rhiannon The Exile is torn by the revelations on Dantooine The style is good, the angst well turned and served. One of the best I’ve read in a long time. chapter one: kolto ivory chopstick At the start of KOTOR II The style is rather abrupt, but I liked it. All I can really complain about is the length of the chapter. It’s too damn short! After the Rescue Witchzenka A very short fan-fic set directly after the Trayus Academy. The story is well defined, albeit short. The interplay between the exile and Atton well defined. 24 people gave this a thumbs up, and I agree with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jae Onasi Posted November 11, 2006 Share Posted November 11, 2006 Thank you, machievelli. I'm still tinkering with it for the submissions to KFM, and I'm revising chapters 18 and 19 at the moment. There's still a lot for me to learn. I've always thought of the Master-Padawan relationship as somewhat of a 2-way street--they have to at least respect, if not like, each other to have that kind of close relationship. You can't depend on someone with your life if you don't trust them. However, I doubt many apprentices would ever refuse, and in some cases I could see the masters even overriding the very rare refusal because of something they divined in the Force. And seeing as I celebrated the 11th anniversary of my 29th b-day yesterday, you just made my day calling me a kid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machievelli Posted November 11, 2006 Author Share Posted November 11, 2006 And seeing as I celebrated the 11th anniversary of my 29th b-day yesterday, you just made my day calling me a kid. I call anyone younger than me kid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSI Posted November 11, 2006 Share Posted November 11, 2006 I call anyone younger than me kid. "OK, Mach 2 Tachikoma, Codenamed "Machievelli", Chief Daisuke Aramaki ordered you to have a memory wipe." Batou said. "Wait, what, a memory wipe? I don't think so!" Machievelli protested. "Then we have no choice. Let's hack into him and give him a memory wipe, ok?" Major Motoko Kusanagi's voice. "Nooooooo..." Then his opitic camera went blank. When the computer restarted, he saw Batou and Major Motoko, who asked amusedly, "Now can you remember how old are you?" [Just for Fun, I watched almost all episodes in Ghost In the Shell: Stand Alone Complex I and II] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machievelli Posted November 11, 2006 Author Share Posted November 11, 2006 "OK, Mach 2 Tachikoma, Codenamed "Machievelli", Chief Daisuke Aramaki ordered you to have a memory wipe." Batou said. "Wait, what, a memory wipe? I don't think so!" Machievelli protested. "Then we have no choice. Let's hack into him and give him a memory wipe, ok?" Major Motoko Kusanagi's voice. "Nooooooo..." Then his opitic camera went blank. When the computer restarted, he saw Batou and Major Motoko, who asked amusedly, "Now can you remember how old are you?" [Just for Fun, I watched almost all episodes in Ghost In the Shell: Stand Alone Complex I and II] Thanks, for the commentary. The A4 series droids I created for Republic dawn came to me after seeing the 14th episode of Ghost in the Shell Stand Alone first season. And I'm 53, which is 23 years older than I ever expected to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JediMaster12 Posted November 14, 2006 Share Posted November 14, 2006 Nothing wrong with that mach. That just means you know something that us young whippersnappers don't. That's why I value your opinion along with Jae's concerning my fic in terms of critique. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machievelli Posted November 14, 2006 Author Share Posted November 14, 2006 Nothing wrong with that mach. That just means you know something that us young whippersnappers don't. That's why I value your opinion along with Jae's concerning my fic in terms of critique. I tend to agree with Lazarus Long 'It's surprisng how much elderly thinking before replying is really just being tired'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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