Darth Andrew Posted March 11, 2006 Share Posted March 11, 2006 excuse us for offending you in anyway, im so sorry. idiotActually, I was defending your post: yeh exactly what im saying, the droid star fighters were in like a clump behind them, JUST HOLD THE TRIGGER.that happens to be over a month old. Just sayin'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redtech Posted March 12, 2006 Share Posted March 12, 2006 No, USE MISSILES! There you go. Pfft, these guys don't know the first rule of air-air combat. If they can't see you, then they can't tell where you're shooting from. As for the violence, well, I suppose it is to make the film "Kiddy" although the argument that "adults don't buy Star Wars" falls a bit flat, I mean, I bet more adults buy Star Wars toys then kids! Unless the next generation are 100% dweebs..oh well, less threat of being beat up in my old age then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurgan Posted March 12, 2006 Share Posted March 12, 2006 Yeah I'd imagine only rich kids can afford to keep up collections with adults (who have jobs and thus more money). Even kids often get their parents to buy them stuff, so it's often adults buying the stuff than kids... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime Posted March 13, 2006 Share Posted March 13, 2006 My "adults don't buy SW toys" was in jest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redtech Posted March 13, 2006 Share Posted March 13, 2006 And that is why all of us need to learn how to become sarcastic online. Heck, I can't do it IRL well either. Mind you, I want to buy a Tri-fighter model. They do have a certain "elegance" in form. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurgan Posted March 14, 2006 Share Posted March 14, 2006 Yeah, sorry I had to pawn my Sarcasm Detector... ;( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justus Posted March 14, 2006 Share Posted March 14, 2006 They were basically swarmed with fighters. Plus it appears that the ARC-170 isn't as agile as the droid fighters, or even the Jedi starfighters so it may have been difficult for them to do evasive maneuvers against the droid fighters. Not much they can do if they are swarmed with fighters, the one clone pilot made it pretty obvious they were overwhelmed "They're all over me...get them off m...*static*". Even though I like the ARC-170, it is a bulky fighter - would make an easy target. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime Posted March 14, 2006 Share Posted March 14, 2006 Even though I like the ARC-170, it is a bulky fighter - would make an easy target.It appears to be more akin to the fighter/bombers of WW2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justus Posted March 14, 2006 Share Posted March 14, 2006 It's possible some of those ARC's got hit with some buzz droids, so that could account as to why they were doomed. I haven't read the novel, so I don't know what it says about the situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurgan Posted March 15, 2006 Share Posted March 15, 2006 "They're all over me...get them off m...*static*". Or as he says in Backstroke of the West, "He's in my behind!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redtech Posted March 15, 2006 Share Posted March 15, 2006 Am I allowed to make gay innenuendo in this board? Oh yeah, I've skimmed the book, tends to add that they were swarmed. Pretty much Tie-fighter strategies, but with decent ships. Tri>>>Tie after all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMAS Posted March 31, 2006 Share Posted March 31, 2006 Why does this bother people so much? It makes perfect sense. Who are the clone troopers the predecessors of? Stormtroopers. And we all know Stormtroopers couldn't hit the broad side of a bantha to save their life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Andrew Posted March 31, 2006 Share Posted March 31, 2006 And yet the clones absolutely slaughtered the droids on Utapau. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Alec Posted March 31, 2006 Share Posted March 31, 2006 Because the movies mean that the stormtroopers would miss Alderaan with the DS, but clones have to win. In th EU there are loads of Imperial victorys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaV™ Posted April 9, 2006 Share Posted April 9, 2006 Well the Clone Pilots aim was on fine mark when they killed Plo Koon over Cato Neimoidia. So it worked for something didn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Ru Posted April 27, 2006 Share Posted April 27, 2006 There is an explanation for the clone's lack of space combat proficiency. And although never really explained in the movies, the recent Starwars game, Battlefront II, in its cut scenes, explains that the republic clones didn't have enough pilots, so many of the pilots where actually ground combat troops that where pressed into filling pilot roles and given crash courses in space combat. Their clone training didn't really cover space combat or was glazed over in favor of the ground combat. When we see the clone trainging/growing facility on Kamino in AOTC I don't remember seeing any of the clones doing space fighter simulations, which I thought was kind of odd. But there you have it, most of the pilots wheren't really pilots at all. Its like taking a marine that has been trained to hold his own with a squad and saying hey we don't have enough pilots, here read this manual on how to fly an F-16 and get up there and take out some MIGs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoiuyWired Posted April 28, 2006 Share Posted April 28, 2006 well, actually its the weaponary design's fault. If droid fighters are always cramped together, then weaponary with AoE effect would work on them more efficiently. So it would only be reasonable if they have some "time bomb" like weapon dropping out from the tail of those arc 170s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elukka Posted May 6, 2006 Share Posted May 6, 2006 Well, if the Republic were to use weapons like the Slave 1's bomb, the Droid fighters probably wouldn't be flying cramped together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PR-0927 Posted May 17, 2006 Share Posted May 17, 2006 Well, the reason they died is probably that they really couldn't hit every fighter in the swarm of droid fighters. The Jango Fett clones were extremely...elite and well trained. The Imperial Stormtrooper ranks are filled from new recruits or their clones. The clone pool got diluted. They are not as good. - Majin Revan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoesGuy Posted July 16, 2006 Share Posted July 16, 2006 Let's just say the shear numbers of Vulture Droids pwnd those clone pilots. =D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RC-1162 Posted July 16, 2006 Share Posted July 16, 2006 They're better than those TIE retards. MC, they are those TIE retards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pho3nix Posted July 16, 2006 Share Posted July 16, 2006 Actually that whole sequence was badly made, some dogfights would have been nice. :| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoesGuy Posted July 17, 2006 Share Posted July 17, 2006 I know what you mean Pho3nix. It was to centralized around Ani and Obi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St. Jimmy Posted July 17, 2006 Share Posted July 17, 2006 It'd be cool if they made like, an extra scene that follows a squad of clones for a bit during a battle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nedak Posted July 17, 2006 Share Posted July 17, 2006 This is how I see it. Lucas made it so that clones were only good sometimes, he made it so Stormtroopers stink at shooting and die way to fast, He never showed any blood or gore during any battles (which ticks me off). The way I see it he messed up 1,2,3, and 6. I love the movies but I have to admit that he should have considerd more things when making the movies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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