Mr.Clark Posted February 25, 2007 Share Posted February 25, 2007 ^ The idea of and RPG in the Star Wars universe is that you choose whether or not your character has a love interest; cutting it out seems a little extreme.I agree. Many players won't even choose to be Jedi at all. Restricting this option is not to far from restricting Darkside choices, because Jedi wouldn't do those either.Hmm... I think people play the game to get the Force option. I certainly did. It is called Knights of the Old Republic, after all... Maybe if people are that bothered by this option, the love stories should be implemented so you make the first move. At least that way people playing straight-Jedi-style can bypass any mention of Romance completely.Agree again. In my opinion, the best option would be a small twist on the KOTOR I one. Have a male and a female NPC and you can choose whether or not to pursue a romance option with either of them. A variation on that would be with an Influence system, where options you make with one reflect on your relationship with the other one. But it's all optional. If you don't want a romance in your game, don't click those speech options. Easy. We don't want it graphic. I felt the level in KOTOR I was just right. The love is expressed in the dialogue. That's fine. I felt (maybe I'm just crazy *shrug* ) that the romance of my PC with Bastila in KOTOR was the main reason that she went up to the Star Forge to save Bastila rather than do the easy thing and just kill her. Also, the fact that the romance was independent of the Light-Side/Dark-Side choice of my character was a nice touch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fish.Stapler Posted February 25, 2007 Share Posted February 25, 2007 I felt (maybe I'm just crazy *shrug* ) that the romance of my PC with Bastila in KOTOR was the main reason that she went up to the Star Forge to save Bastila rather than do the easy thing and just kill her. That's what I liked about the romance in K1, it would tie into the story in some way. You could specifically, in dialogue, reference love to get her to turn back. The small bit of romance in K2 really had no effect on the outcome of the storyline. If they could get that same effect the K1 romance had in K3, it would be great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Clark Posted February 25, 2007 Share Posted February 25, 2007 That's what I liked about the romance in K1, it would tie into the story in some way. You could specifically, in dialogue, reference love to get her to turn back. But you didn't have to. That's what made it such a brilliant game. You can redeem Bastila without the romance subplot if you don't like it. It wasn't just tacked on for the hell of it, it had real outcomes, but they weren't essential to get a "successful" ending (however you define success). This is what I want for KOTOR III. A chance for romance if the players want it, with noticeable differences on the outcome, but not making it an essential choice for the player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fish.Stapler Posted February 25, 2007 Share Posted February 25, 2007 But you didn't have to. That's what made it such a brilliant game. You can redeem Bastila without the romance subplot if you don't like it. It wasn't just tacked on for the hell of it, it had real outcomes, but they weren't essential to get a "successful" ending (however you define success). This is what I want for KOTOR III. A chance for romance if the players want it, with noticeable differences on the outcome, but not making it an essential choice for the player. Perfect, I had forgotten to include that. It was indeed possible to redeem Bastila without the love plot, but much much harder. Possible, just a big pain in the rear. K3 romances would not be obnoxious and game-ruining if they kept it to something like that. What really got me was in K2 all the sexual references (really, it seemed they were everywhere you looked) and yet the romance sub-plots were nearly non-existant. Compare that to the complete lack of sexual references in K1 and it's almost like the developers went to the opposite extreme with K2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henz Posted February 25, 2007 Share Posted February 25, 2007 Hmm... I think people play the game to get the Force option. I certainly did. It is called Knights of the Old Republic, after all... That was poor wording on my part hehe. I was trying to convey that many players chose not to be a conventional Jedi. To Jediphile, I agree love interests should play a more serious role in the gameplay, sacrifices etc. So would you rather a well done love story or none at all in this game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Clark Posted February 25, 2007 Share Posted February 25, 2007 Sacrifices? Ooh, that's a good one. Would you sacrifice your love interest to save the galaxy? Tricky one... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jediphile Posted February 25, 2007 Share Posted February 25, 2007 To Jediphile, I agree love interests should play a more serious role in the gameplay, sacrifices etc. So would you rather a well done love story or none at all in this game? Well done plot will be my choice in any story any time. If it really matters to the plot, then why not. Worked reasonably well for LSM Revan in K1, I thought. I guess I'm just tired of the sermon about how jedi cannot have attachments left and right only to have a romance option thrown in my face five seconds later. Especially if that romance option doesn't really go anywhere. It could be interesting to put the pc in Anakin's position, where you have to abandon love to avoid falling to the dark side. I mean, we all know Anakin did bad, but would we really have chosen differently and left Padme to die? It's so easy to condemn Anakin, when we haven't faced that choice ourselves AND can look at his choice with knowledge of what the outcome of the choice will be. Could be interesting to have a situation, where you actually have to let your love interest die to save the galaxy, but then I doubt Star Wars will dare to go there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TKA-001 Posted February 25, 2007 Share Posted February 25, 2007 Given how jedi are not supposed to be in relationships, it's already pretty silly that both of the protagonists of the KotOR games were... That doesn't mean they can't break the rules. Neither Revan nor the Exile had a Jedi Master keeping an eye on them; they were on their own. Plus, the Exile wasn't even a Jedi, he/she was kicked out of the order, and was just regaining his/her powers as time went on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jediphile Posted February 25, 2007 Share Posted February 25, 2007 That doesn't mean they can't break the rules. Neither Revan nor the Exile had a Jedi Master keeping an eye on them; they were on their own. Plus, the Exile wasn't even a Jedi, he/she was kicked out of the order, and was just regaining his/her powers as time went on. Uhm... Exile had Kreia, and she seemed more adamant about it than most jedi masters do - "charging up the loading ramp" ring a bell? As for Revan, Bastila was feeding him a sermon about it every two seconds. He got around that by playing teacher's pet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Divide&Conquer Posted February 26, 2007 Share Posted February 26, 2007 I think KOTOR III should have more romance, but like others have said be given the option to pursue it or not. As for me I was LSM Revan and Exile. And with the exile I'd mostly lean towards Visas. The Handmaiden just kinda annoyed me alittle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoiuyWired Posted February 26, 2007 Share Posted February 26, 2007 Sacrifices? Ooh, that's a good one. Would you sacrifice your love interest to save the galaxy? Tricky one... Well, all true Jedi/Sith would choose the galaxy. Then again, clearly I am not a Jedi/Sith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titanius Anglesmith Posted February 26, 2007 Share Posted February 26, 2007 I don't think romance belongs in the main plot of the game, unless it's used as an option for redeeming someone, as it was in K1 on the Star Forge. Romance seems to just fit better as a nice little side - um... quest? Maybe a side "bonus" would be a better way to put it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue Spy Posted February 26, 2007 Share Posted February 26, 2007 Uhm... Exile had Kreia, and she seemed more adamant about it than most jedi masters do - "charging up the loading ramp" ring a bell? As for Revan, Bastila was feeding him a sermon about it every two seconds. He got around that by playing teacher's pet Kreia didn't love the Exile, she said 'i love you' at the end in a sick twisted sort of way lol, i don't think someone of her age would fall in love trance with a young stallion of a jedi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nancy Allen`` Posted March 6, 2007 Share Posted March 6, 2007 I'd like to see in a Star Wars game the characters, doesn't have to be your character but a couple to show that they do love each other, big time. Nothing crude of course but they've always taken a rather coy approach to this. I'd really want to see this change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoiuyWired Posted March 7, 2007 Share Posted March 7, 2007 Well, Last think we need is a couple of your teammates making loud noices at th sick bay charging up the loading ramp, or the engine room locked and unavailable sice the wookiee and the hutt is pulling a bindo... No, if there is romance, leave it to the pc. Granted, All Luke get in OT is droid... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nancy Allen`` Posted March 7, 2007 Share Posted March 7, 2007 No, nothing like that, in fact nothing that even needs to push any envelopes. Leave that to Mira. But for the characters, I dunno, Carth and Revan for example, to show their love and affection for each other every chance they get, that'd be neat. If we went with this scenario in particular for example then we would really get a sense for Carth's loss, or Bastila's loss. Sure, we're told about it, but to be actually shown it would really drive the point home. This might explain it better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jediphile Posted March 7, 2007 Share Posted March 7, 2007 Kreia didn't love the Exile, she said 'i love you' at the end in a sick twisted sort of way lol, i don't think someone of her age would fall in love trance with a young stallion of a jedi. I was talking about her adherence to the principle that the exile cannot take anyone he/she loves into the unknown regions. The "charging up the loading ramp" is a reference to a romance between male Exile and Visas. I did not mean to imply a relationship of that sort between Kreia and the exile in any way. No, nothing like that, in fact nothing that even needs to push any envelopes. Leave that to Mira. But for the characters, I dunno, Carth and Revan for example, to show their love and affection for each other every chance they get, that'd be neat. If we went with this scenario in particular for example then we would really get a sense for Carth's loss, or Bastila's loss. Sure, we're told about it, but to be actually shown it would really drive the point home. Actually, I wanted an ending where Revan committed to his/her relationship with Bastila/Carth depending on gender, assuming Revan is LS. I'm not big on the mushy stuff, but since the love relationship for Revan is so firmly established, I think it should be played out for that character. Besides, I think Revan has been through too much to truly recover from it now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darca Lar Posted April 15, 2007 Share Posted April 15, 2007 TSL did lack romance, but you're forgetting that spicy scene with Exile and Visas...meditating...^_^ But on a serious note, A good example romance wise would be something like the original SW trilogy between Han and Leia. It was completely PG-13 and well done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceLee_Reborn Posted April 15, 2007 Share Posted April 15, 2007 if they do put more romance into it, i hope they don't over do it and make the romance come across cheesy, like anakin and padme in ROTS.......ergh......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of Skywalker15 Posted April 16, 2007 Share Posted April 16, 2007 I don't think romance belongs in the main plot of the game, unless it's used as an option for redeeming someone, as it was in K1 on the Star Forge. Romance seems to just fit better as a nice little side - um... quest? Maybe a side "bonus" would be a better way to put it. I totally agree. Bastila and Revan romance wasn't forced, and it was great. Atton and the Exile's romance wasn't even a option.... it wasn't even there. Romance can help with any story, especially in Star Wars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JediMasterJambi Posted April 19, 2007 Share Posted April 19, 2007 I'm not as big of a romantic..ist...>. > as Fey is, but I have to full-heartly agree. For the optional-yes atleast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander Obi-Wan Posted April 19, 2007 Share Posted April 19, 2007 I don't mind romance being in the game. I never really "experienced" it in the first game. Have yet to play TSL. But, I have no problem with romance being in the game as long as it is clean and respectable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xhagast Posted April 20, 2007 Share Posted April 20, 2007 I love the romance. I get a kick out of it. besides, it adds verosimilitude to the game. I mean, people of both sexes locked together, fighting, learning about each other's every secret. Things are bound to happen between them. In normal life you hardly ever learn what kind of person you are with until years have passed. And by then may be too late. It is a big problem. But when you have been in the trenches with someone, fought together, suffered and shared together then you know them for who they really are. And after enduring all that that they leave their dirty underwear on the bedroom floor is not that big a deal. This is how I feel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canderous_ordo1 Posted April 22, 2007 Share Posted April 22, 2007 id probably be really happy if there was NO ROMANCE AT ALL i never did really like it take it from me if there was several explosions and possibly a lot more battles like ten times harder then any so far so take it from me the game is just better without the ROMANCE so i say no ROMANCE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamburg_Yodaman Posted April 22, 2007 Share Posted April 22, 2007 If we will have Bastila in the game, of course I want to have romance. And sex scenes... grrr.... just a joke. No, but this little techtelmechtel with Bastila in KotOR was really funny. I enjoyed it to make her upset and so on. With Carth I think the love story was too serious. With Bastila it was much more fun. And in KotOR II, ok, I liked Atton but the affairs with the others where too boring. (Still, I dream of having dirty talkings with Kreia, uh, she was a sexy beast, wasnt she?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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