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^Ok, i checked your video, the progression feature is nice, though it seems a bit complicated (or i just didn't understand it), this is what i got; the hilts vary according to the custom crystal placed in the color crystal slot, right? those custom crystals are retrieved from found damaged lightsabers (do this retrieval require the use of repair parts or x amount of repair skill points?, do the custom crystals you get by this process are predetermined by something?), so then, the new custom-hilted lightsaber has some bonuses in them and is... tied to a specific lightsaber fighting form? (meaning you can only use that form with that partcular lightsaber?)... i am confuse.

 

(Also, imo, main attribute bonuses on weapons is kinda not-so-good, i know you say in the video that the +7 bonus there was just for show, but even if it is +1...)

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One last thing, (which perhaps you already answered to, so apologies), in both the video and the screenshots i'm seeing a lot of previous game companions; Bastila, Bao-Dur, and i think i also saw the Handmaiden around there somewhere... which is cool and all, but maybe you shouldn't overdo it for both freshness's sake and for your own peace of mind, i mean, getting those voices to sound like those of other people is probably resource and time consuming... again, just a thought.

 

the use of previous characters is to gain a sense of continuation. Logan wants this mod to feel like it is part of the same trilogy, but still is it's own story. So, just like some K1 characters make a cameo in TSL, there will be a few cameos in RoR. As it is right now, Bastila and Bao-Dur have scenes, Carth and Handmaiden might show up (depending on your LS/DS choices for K1/TSL), and T3 and a HK assassin droids might show up as well.

 

We are aware that over doing the cameos will work against us, so we won't throw every previous party member in there.

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Oh my goodness. Logan, that's genius - especially the new Bastila look.

 

VarsityPuppet altered the head and body models (excellent work I must say :golfclap:), and I provided higher res face and hair textures, as well as these robe textures.

 

I don't know, but for some reason to me Bastila seems to look younger now. But everything else looks great!

 

With Bastila's new look I think I can more easily swallow the fact she has a new voice.

 

The response here has been more positive than negative, but on the RoR Facebook page, people don't seem to like Bastila's new hair-do. To clear things up a bit, I'm providing a few more screenies, for comparisson sake:

 

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The shape of the face is basically unchanged, but I've altered the uvw map a bit to fix the inside of the bottom lip, and the eyebrows are not as sad and wistful anymore. I've added more detail to the lips, and a tiny touch of care worn wrinkles around the eyes and corners of the mouth. She's only about thirty years old, so she shouldn't have too many wrinkles yet (unless she has too much stress from being on the council :lol:).

 

I figure that she was able to keep her leather in good working condition, she ordered new boots in the same style (Sears Wishbook maybe :roleyess:), but she wouldn't still be wearing the same pants and shirt after all these years :xp:.

 

Since I think that this new look is fantastic for a grown up (but not grown old) Bastila, I don't want to change anything. The only thing I'd consider, is easing up on the seriousness of her eyebrows (but they look much better in conversations than in static screenies).

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(...) depending on your LS/DS choices for K1/TSL(...)

 

Ah, so you're doing the Atton questions 'trick' to let the player introduce some background preferences, eh? good stuff.

 

Oh we got those too!

 

:thmbup1:

 

The response here has been more positive than negative, but on the RoR Facebook page, people don't seem to like Bastila's new hair-do.

 

Hair looks fine, no more kiddie pigtails, if anything the ponytail hair could be longer.

 

I figure that she was able to keep her leather in good working condition, she ordered new boots in the same style (Sears Wishbook maybe), but she wouldn't still be wearing the same pants and shirt after all these years.

 

The combination looks kinda weird though (k1 and k2 big cape robe)... the character is recognizable, and will have a big sign with her name above the head, so why keep her in the k1 clothing? give her a full k2 robe instead (imo).

 

Since I think that this new look is fantastic for a grown up (but not grown old) Bastila, I don't want to change anything. The only thing I'd consider, is easing up on the seriousness of her eyebrows (but they look much better in conversations than in static screenies).

 

The eyebrows are perfect as they are!. Only thing would be the mouth; seems to give a bit too much of a 'pissed off' expression.

 

Overall looks very nice.:)

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I like Bastila's new hairstyle very much. Over the years it's pretty unlikely that she's going to have the same hairstyle as in k1... plus this current hairdo reflects her age perfectly IMO. If you lean toward "Mature Bastila" I think she's going to look like a mom or something, not a respected Jedi.

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I love Bastila's new look. The robes are also great, I like the old and new meshed together nicely. As you've noted thou the eyebrows may need to be slightly altered. Currently I think their shape give her an annoyed or menacing look.

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Since I think that this new look is fantastic for a grown up (but not grown old) Bastila, I don't want to change anything. The only thing I'd consider, is easing up on the seriousness of her eyebrows (but they look much better in conversations than in static screenies).

 

Yeah, I was going to say that the eyebrows looked too serious and almost aggresive. They might need to be tilted up juuust a little bit.

Also, is this set before or after Bastila has her child?

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Yeah, I was going to say that the eyebrows looked too serious and almost aggresive. They might need to be tilted up juuust a little bit.

Also, is this set before or after Bastila has her child?

 

This is set before she has her child, IIRC.

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If I may add my ever so humble opinion, I like the new Bastilla, its just I think her face makes her look grumpy or angry etc. I like the blending of new and old in her outfit (perhaps you could add some battle scars? I haven't looked at it in depth though so they may already be there. Or maybe you can have her wear different outfits at different points?). I also like the new hair as it shows she's grown since K1, which is good, especially since shes now an important council member. Thank you for all your time and listening to my ramblings.

P.s. I am very excited for the demo :)

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It's good to see new members to Lucas Forums, and humbling to know that it is interest in our mod that inspired them to join. Welcome :waive1:

 

Thanks to everyone for their input about Bastila. I haven't been able to make any changes yet, but I will consult with VarsityPuppet soon.

 

In the meantime, I haven't been idle. I actually got a chance to work on some characters this weekend. A while ago (years? sigh), I saw some of the supposed concept art for Kotor III. I have always hoped to work some of these concepts into RoR, since this mod is an unofficial K3. In the art was a rugged, tired looking man wearing a greenish and orange uniform. Recently, Logan asked me for a Czerka contact, one that will have missions for your party member who was a Czerka emplyee. So, I set about adjusting a head texture, and tweeking the standard Czerka officer uniform. I don't know what the name of this concept character was going to be (the image was saved with the name Star-Wars_vargas_08.jpg), but I'm guessing "Vargas" until someone can prove me wrong (see this thread). It's a good starting point for a name, at any rate.

 

Logan also asked me for some characters to wear Dark Jedi robes like Cain Thrall. I decided to modify some Trandoshans (rather than more humans), and here they are.

 

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Redrob, are you aware that the concept art (and therefore your Vargas remake for Czerka) is wearing Nazi paraphenalia? The collar device that looks like a Roman numeral 2 is called a Litzen collar device. Just wanted to give you a heads up before some accused you of being a sympathizer! LOL

 

No, I didn't know that, although I've seen similar collar treatments on some other military uniforms. I don't know how much of a difference it makes to keep the collar as-is (how many players would make the connection?). It's not like I'm putting a big swastika on him.

 

Hmm, how to keep the art similar to the concept, but not similar to the Litzen? Dang Nazis, still ruining everything :fist:

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