Nedak Posted August 1, 2008 Share Posted August 1, 2008 Dun dun dunn http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=au_iyOGXnyU Your thoughts, eh? BTW this is from today 8.1.08 stuff posted in June. http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/080620-phoenix-ice-update.html however the video is the most updated version of the discovery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnseyy Posted August 1, 2008 Share Posted August 1, 2008 Wow, so it's definite there used to be water, then? If there was never life there, that would be a pity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeDoe 2.0 Posted August 1, 2008 Share Posted August 1, 2008 ^ My thoughts exactly Now we have to find fossilized remains of organisms that populated Mars to be certain, that may take many years... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Web Rider Posted August 1, 2008 Share Posted August 1, 2008 So there's ice on mars, which means water. So, my question is I suppose, how long ago was it liquid? To carve those canyons it must have been, so why'd it get so cold?(besides distance from the sun) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth_Yuthura Posted August 1, 2008 Share Posted August 1, 2008 ^ My thoughts exactly Now we have to find fossilized remains of organisms that populated Mars to be certain, that may take many years... The Spirit and Opportunity rovers were equipped with the tools needed to find the fossilized remains of micro organisms in and on the surface of rocks. They were also dispatched to the most likely locations where water was once expected to flow. If they didn't find anything in the months they were operational, then the remains of any organisms is either much more difficult than any rover can accomplish... or there are no traces of life on the surface to be found. That doesn't exclude the possibility of life deep underground living off geothermal energy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TriggerGod Posted August 1, 2008 Share Posted August 1, 2008 So there's ice on mars, which means water. So, my question is I suppose, how long ago was it liquid? To carve those canyons it must have been, so why'd it get so cold?(besides distance from the sun) I'm sure this isn't very probable, but wouldn't it be possible that when the Sun first formed, Mars was closer then it was before, therefor, water would've been able to flow, creating the canyons, but after the universe fully formed, Mars was farther away, and the water was directed to the poles, which froze over. EDIT: 700th post! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HerbieZ Posted August 1, 2008 Share Posted August 1, 2008 We need to send a plumber over there stat! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Litofsky Posted August 1, 2008 Share Posted August 1, 2008 Boy, I hope we find the remains of some long-lost/ancient civilization/creature. If nothing else would unite Humanity, the 100%, undeniable existence of aliens would do that. Or it would tear us apart. Either way, that's some really cool news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corinthian Posted August 1, 2008 Share Posted August 1, 2008 Well, that depends on whether we find Prothean technology on Mars or a dormant alien spaceship that comes active as soon as we touch it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev7 Posted August 1, 2008 Share Posted August 1, 2008 Well, that depends on whether we find Prothean technology on Mars or a dormant alien spaceship that comes active as soon as we touch it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Litofsky Posted August 1, 2008 Share Posted August 1, 2008 Well, that depends on whether we find Prothean technology on Mars or a dormant alien spaceship that comes active as soon as we touch it. Or a small, fossilized remain of a creature. Sarcasm isn't always a useful tool. Unless I interpreted that wrong, in which case, I apologize. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Det. Bart Lasiter Posted August 2, 2008 Share Posted August 2, 2008 Or a small, fossilized remain of a creature. Sarcasm isn't always a useful tool. Unless I interpreted that wrong, in which case, I apologize.Do not apologize to the Corinthian. It can smell your weakness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth_Yuthura Posted August 2, 2008 Share Posted August 2, 2008 I'm sure this isn't very probable, but wouldn't it be possible that when the Sun first formed, Mars was closer then it was before, therefor, water would've been able to flow, creating the canyons, but after the universe fully formed, Mars was farther away, and the water was directed to the poles, which froze over. EDIT: 700th post! That's not possible. The orbit of the planets don't change to such a degree. I think it's more likely that Mars had significantly more geothermal energy... providing the heat for liquid water to flow. As that heat was lost, it became too cold for liquid water and eventually had stagnant ice that consolidated at the poles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcesious Posted August 2, 2008 Share Posted August 2, 2008 Well with global destabilization and all, I don't think we'll need Mars' water for quite awhile... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Litofsky Posted August 2, 2008 Share Posted August 2, 2008 Well with global destabilization and all, I don't think we'll need Mars' water for quite awhile... Here's to creating a colony on Mars, and waiting until Humanity on Earth destroys itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nedak Posted August 2, 2008 Author Share Posted August 2, 2008 Here's to creating a colony on Mars, and waiting until Humanity on Earth destroys itself. That's the last thing we need to do. Populating other planets, and ruining those. We would be like a galactic virus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da_Man_2423 Posted August 2, 2008 Share Posted August 2, 2008 That's the last thing we need to do. Populating other planets, and ruining those. We would be like a galactic virus. I'd hardly call our ability to cause havoc "galactic" at this point in time, considering our current technological capabilities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nedak Posted August 2, 2008 Author Share Posted August 2, 2008 I'd hardly call our ability to cause havoc "galactic" at this point in time, considering our current technological capabilities. I'm obviously not talking about now, but sometime in the future... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Litofsky Posted August 2, 2008 Share Posted August 2, 2008 That's the last thing we need to do. Populating other planets, and ruining those. We would be like a galactic virus. Ever seen The Matrix? I believe that Mr. Smith comments that the only species similar to Humanity is the virus. It's harsh, but it's true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samuel Dravis Posted August 2, 2008 Share Posted August 2, 2008 I love water! And even more, I love water on Mars! What that amounts to, my friends, is that extended stays on mars are not only possible, but likely in the future... all in all, excellent news. The real question is: why isn't this treated as something groundbreaking? After all, there's been speculation about Mars having water forever. It's too bad that most people aren't very interested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nedak Posted August 2, 2008 Author Share Posted August 2, 2008 It's too bad that most people aren't very interested. People are too busy with Hannah Montana to learn about Mars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da_Man_2423 Posted August 2, 2008 Share Posted August 2, 2008 I love water! And even more, I love water on Mars! What that amounts to, my friends, is that extended stays on mars are not only possible, but likely in the future... all in all, excellent news. The real question is: why isn't this treated as something groundbreaking? After all, there's been speculation about Mars having water forever. It's too bad that most people aren't very interested. But how MUCH water is there? Yeah, sure, we may have discovered it and all, but volume is important too. Manned trips won't last long on Mars if there is hardly any of it accessible and if we solely rely on it. Not to mention who knows what might be in the water in the first place. People are too busy with Hannah Montana to learn about Mars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ascendant_Justice Posted August 2, 2008 Share Posted August 2, 2008 People are too busy with Hannah Montana to learn about Mars. WELL said. Thank you. If someone would just bomb Entertainment Tonight and rip up Mary Hart's precious leg insurance contract... But I digress...What wonderful news this is. Water confirmed on Mars. Think about that: there's water on a planet we used to think was a completely barren wasteland, and it's right next to us, humanity, in the same solar system. Think of the possibilities of the other 200-400 billion star systems in the galaxy. I am a little...disappointed? in that I had not heard a single thing about this until I stumbled on this thread. I agree that this should have been breaking news on every network. But, as mentioned, Hannah Montana... Oh, and yes, don't forget that we are, indeed, going to Mars! Just as soon as we set up our Sith mil.....er...base...on the Moon. The first time humanity sets foot on a new planet, and we'll be here, listening to five hour delayed radio messages!! History in the making. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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