Darth_Yuthura Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 Let's not forget that the Enterprise was made at a time that predated Star Wars, so most of the 'little' things, such as holo technology, power sources, and touchscreens were not a part of the Original series. I don't even consider TOS to be a part of Star Trek anymore because our own technology is beyond what they have in the 23rd century. Anyway... if anyone compares ST to SW, you shouldn't judge them side by side because there are no points of reference that would give an accurate comparison. Instead, put it up against something that you can, like destroying a planet. Clearly, Star Wars ships are many times larger than Star Trek's, but they are not nearly as powerful. A fleet of only 20 Star Trek ships could do just as much to a planet as hundreds of Star Destroyers. But this is Kirk vs. Revan. The Enterprise-D would dominate against any Star Wars ship, but Revan's jedi abilities would clearly beat out Kirk's impossibly-good luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattig89ch Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 ah, but lets not forget. that impossibly good luck never runs out. Its not like revan ever showed the ability to crush a star ship, or even hold it in place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astor Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 I don't even consider TOS to be a part of Star Trek anymore because our own technology is beyond what they have in the 23rd century. I feel really sorry for you. No matter what you think, it is Star Trek. All those other series? 'Based on Star Trek'. Just because they might have flashier technology doesn't mean you should disregard what made them what they are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattig89ch Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 easy now, we're not looking to start a fight. We're using the information given to us in both universe's to come up with a logical argument Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chevron 7 locke Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 Who said anything about the leviathin? I'm talking about the ravager. The ravager would could take the enterprise easily Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattig89ch Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 The Ravager wouldn't really stand a chance. A highly maneuverable star ship, firing antimatter torpedoes and phasers would tear that ship apart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommanderQ Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 Yeah, the Ravager was a skeleton of a ship when Nihilus took over, it wouldn't last very long. {Provided the Dark Lord inside didn't do anything} Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chevron 7 locke Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 The ravager is much bigger then the enterpise. All cap'n nihilus would have to do is ram the enterprise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattig89ch Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 The Ravager wouldn't really stand a chance. A highly maneuverable star ship... don't forget, the enterprise can do warp maneuvers as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommanderQ Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 Yep, but Cap'n Nihilus could just use the force to his advantage, or in this case, Darth Revan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chevron 7 locke Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 Nihilus could feed off of the enterprise crew. simple as that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattig89ch Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 yes, Nihilus could. But we're not talking about Nihilus, we're talking about Revan. And there is no evidence to suggest that Revan had the kind of power that could eat planets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chevron 7 locke Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 No. Revan does not have that type of power. but revan could have had force clocke, he could board the enterprise and sneak onto the bridge and kill kirk. that is the powah of the revan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommanderQ Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 Revan did have the force, so he could've used it to toy around with the enterprise, then he'd throw it into OBLIVION!!! HAHA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattig89ch Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 That was Juhani. Remember, we're talking about Revan. The battle commander who slaughtered the Madolorians. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chevron 7 locke Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 Then Revan would simply battle his way to the bridge and then kill Kirk. And commanderQ has a valid point. Revan could use to force to throw the enterprise around. Size matters not with the force Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattig89ch Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 I hate to keep poking holes in your plans but there is no evidence to suggest that Revan was that powerfull. I could see how Revan would be able to "feel" where the enterprise would be next, and target that spot. But to say that he could crush the ship and throw it just seems like your grasping at air. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chevron 7 locke Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 revan was called the heart of the force. Size doesnt matter! All revan would have to do is twiddle his little finger and bye bye enterprise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommanderQ Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 Well, look at the Force Unleashed. The Apprentice wasn't as powerful as Revan, but he threw a Star Destroyer were he wanted it. Now, imagine Revan, much more powerful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattig89ch Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 Hang on a sec. I thought that the aprentice was more powerfull then Vader. He does kill him after all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chevron 7 locke Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 Vader wasnt as powerful in the force as Revan. vader after his accident on mustafar wasn't as powerful as he used to be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giant Graffiti Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 The Apprentice wasn't as powerful as Revan Hold on, where is your source for that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommanderQ Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 Wait, I think I might've gotten something confused here with my sources. I take it back, the Apprentice was more powerful. So, minus the awesome force powers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattig89ch Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 in the game he did pull vaders saber right out of his had as a kid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommanderQ Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 True he did, and what could Revan do! SQUAT! Not entirely true there..hmmm..... Revan still would fight pretty dang awesome:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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