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So much to say:

 

Sorry but rolling over to Communism isn't patriotic unless you're from the Soviet Union (which collapsed).

 

Actually not sure how in the hell this is even a point.

 

I noticed you only mentioned right wing people in your list, if Maddow and Garafalo are right wingers (don't know who they are off the top of my head). Based on your response to imply you're nonpartisan is quite frankly dishonest, you're at least as left-wing as I am right-wing if not more so.

 

What the hell? Instead of taking 10 seconds to google Garofalo, you made an assumption that Skin was being partisan. Way to be ignorant. So what did you notice, again?

 

Yes, and have you bothered to read my words

 

Jesus Christ. I can't actually believe the irony issuing forth from your mouth.

 

 

Well here's the thing, Rush isn't a loon he's very partisan yes, but not a loon,

False.

 

I'm honestly not arsed enough to read it. Someone please PM me if there's a non-rhetorical and rational point.

 

No, there's really nothing.

 

Limbaugh is a racist, bigoted, idiot and a blowhard. And a documented liar. And a drug addict.

Check, check, check, check, check, check.

and viagra enthusiast

And check.

How is calling him by his real name "Barack Hussein Obama" a racist thing, pray tell?

 

This is the second time I'm explaining this, here. Now, pay close attention:

The sign said "Barack Hussein Osama"

 

Good Lord.

So is the calling people racists for criticizing Barack Obama.

 

If they're being racist, then....

 

@ Rogue Nine

 

Your first source isn't exactly that credible.

 

False.

 

You second source about Michael J. Fox shows that Rush doesn't know much about Parkinsons (nevermind the fact that Mr. Fox was unusually young to get the condition).

 

Thus, an idiot. If you're a political talking head, then you only open your mouth when you know what you're talking about. Or he's an idiot.

Your third source about him being a drug user he got addicted to the painkiller after surgery, and does that excuse it not really. I've never said the man was a saint.

So, not a rebuttal? Wow, this is familiar. You're not disproving any points and yet you think you're making this great argument.

As for your comments about him being a blowhard, he's an entertainer, not a reporter, if he was as bad as you claim (which I sincerely doubt), he wouldn't be the most listened to Radio Personality in the country.

Again, no counterargument. Well done.

In summary as usual you use sources which you know aren't credible to try to trash Conservatives.

Perfect way to finish a terrible syllogism.

 

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Bull****. This crisis started much, much earlier than anything that Obama could have prevented in three months.

 

Obama was taking kickbacks from the Freddie Mac and the other bank in question, in fact he was getting so much that if you just look at the 2 years he was senator, he was the recipient of more money from those two than anyone else in the Senate.

 

Furthermore there is Obama's representing ACORN in that lawsuit to force Citibank into making loans they knew people couldn't pay. And he also consulted ACORN as how intimidate various businessmen. I posted this stuff in Kavar's before and you were one of the people replying to it, so I'm guessing you either don't remember, were too lazy to read it, or unwilling to read anything that would call your liberal worldview into question.

 

Actually not sure how in the hell this is even a point.

 

Income Redistribution comes to mind, as does trying to do away with the 2nd Amendment and Free Speech.

 

What the hell? Instead of taking 10 seconds to google Garofalo, you made an assumption that Skin was being partisan. Way to be ignorant. So what did you notice, again?

 

Fine I made an error on which way Garofalo leans, that doesn't mean Skin and yourself for that matter aren't being partisan. The constant covering for a man that continuely appoints people that are under investigation for corruption or should be in prison for tax evasion is a pretty good indicator.

 

Jesus Christ. I can't actually believe the irony issuing forth from your mouth.

 

Contrary to what you believe, I actually do read a lot of what people here write. Just when people use sources like MoveOn.org or MSNBC as sources to bash conservatives, then I question the validity of their comments.

 

False.

 

That explains why Obama's chief of staff tried to coordinate an effort to shut Rush up, if they consider him that much of a threat to their agenda, I'm wondering what Rush found that has them so worried.

 

No, there's really nothing.

 

Actually there is, am I using words that are too big for you to understand?

 

This is the second time I'm explaining this, here. Now, pay close attention:

The sign said "Barack Hussein Osama"

 

That's called people angry over Government spending and using their money to bailout the people whom caused this mess. It has nothing to do with racism and you know it.

 

Good Lord.

 

[Mockery]Now now, considering you believe in the annointed one, you shouldn't use Obama's name in vain.[/HK47]

 

Thus, an idiot. If you're a political talking head, then you only open your mouth when you know what you're talking about. Or he's an idiot.

 

His sources implied that Mr. Fox hadn't been taking his medication, so he said what he did based on the information he had at the time.

 

And something tells me you've never even listened to Rush, just a bunch of soundbytes MoveOn.org has gathered.

 

So, not a rebuttal? Wow, this is familiar. You're not disproving any points and yet you think you're making this great argument.

 

I was pointing out his situation was different from deciding to abuse alcohol and becoming an alcoholic, some painkillers are highly addictive and he should have been monitored more closely in the follow-up after surgery. The man was embarassed and tried to deny there was a problem.

 

As far as him being a blowhard, I guess it takes one to know one, so what does that make you?

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Obama was taking kickbacks from the Freddie Mac and the other bank in question, in fact he was getting so much that if you just look at the 2 years he was senator, he was the recipient of more money from those two than anyone else in the Senate.
I really don't need to ask for a source here, right?
Furthermore there is Obama's representing ACORN in that lawsuit to force Citibank into making loans they knew people couldn't pay. And he also consulted ACORN as how intimidate various businessmen. I posted this stuff in Kavar's before and you were one of the people replying to it, so I'm guessing you either don't remember, were too lazy to read it, or unwilling to read anything that would call your liberal worldview into question.
And your conservative worldview makes you incapable of admitting the truth and making **** up.
Income Redistribution comes to mind, as does trying to do away with the 2nd Amendment and Free Speech.
Please source where Obama wants to completely destroy the Constitution. Your blind, ignorant hate speech prevails yet again.

Contrary to what you believe, I actually do read a lot of what people here write. Just when people use sources like MoveOn.org or MSNBC as sources to bash conservatives, then I question the validity of their comments
So using conservative blogs to bash liberals is somehow fine and tolerant. Excellent hypocrisy, sir. o_Q
That's called people angry over Government spending and using their money to bailout the people whom caused this mess. It has nothing to do with racism and you know it.
BS. Disliking someone's policies does justify using tactical hate speech against them. How would you like it if someone took your ethnicity, caricatured it, and compared it with mass murderers? Feelin' cool with that?
His sources implied that Mr. Fox hadn't been taking his medication, so he said what he did based on the information he had at the time.
Even if it was true, it's still in very, very bad taste to mock someone's disability, and you know it.
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Actually there is, am I using words that are too big for you to understand?

 

Skin asked if your post had any points that were rational and not based on rhetoric. I answered that question quite accurately.

 

[Mockery]Now now, considering you believe in the annointed one, you shouldn't use Obama's name in vain.[/HK47]

How quickly you forget your hissyfit over the Hitler comment in the other thread. Why are you able to insult my religious beliefs by indicating that I worship false idols? What hypocrisy.

 

His sources implied that Mr. Fox hadn't been taking his medication, so he said what he did based on the information he had at the time.

 

What information? He was talking out of his ass.

And something tells me you've never even listened to Rush, just a bunch of soundbytes MoveOn.org has gathered.

 

Brilliant assumption. Happens to be false, but nice try anyway.

 

As far as him being a blowhard, I guess it takes one to know one, so what does that make you?

****. Really? You resort to a ****ing "I know you are but what am I?" retort? I actually can't ****ing believe this.

 

You, good sir, are a child.

 

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I love how when Garfield can't refute any of my points directly, he ignores them and goes on to spew more conservative talking points.

 

It's more of that I usually ignore you in general, because the conversation typically devolves into a brawl.

 

I really don't need to ask for a source here, right?

 

Are you going to read it this time, cause contrary to what some people here would like to believe, I really don't enjoy repeating myself over and over.

 

And your conservative worldview makes you incapable of admitting the truth and making **** up.

 

I fail to see your logic in claiming Bush is the anti-Christ to be even remotely factual. Nor is the Bush being out to take over the world argument...

 

Seriously, I would post the 9/11 argument about Bill Ayers which one of you accused me of making up, but I'd probably be infracted for spam.

 

Please source where Obama wants to completely destroy the Constitution. Your blind, ignorant hate speech prevails yet again.

 

Didn't I post audio from a radio program in Kavar's the last time you challenged me when I said Obama was for income redistribution. Then there is the item that the Democrats are trying to push through known as the "Fairness" Doctrine which is really the Censorship Doctrine, and if Obama was really against it why is he appointing people that want it reinstated this time to shut down talk radio?

 

So using conservative blogs to bash liberals is somehow fine and tolerant. Excellent hypocrisy, sir.

 

It's more of if someone is going to act like a 3 year old, I'm going to treat them like a three year old. There is such a thing as right and wrong, and excuse me if I value my 1st and 2nd Amendment rights.

 

BS. Disliking someone's policies does justify using tactical hate speech against them. How would you like it if someone took your ethnicity, caricatured it, and compared it with mass murderers? Feelin' cool with that?

 

You feeling cool with the fact the Liberal Left (I believe you did as well), compared Bush to Hitler. (If I'm mistaken on you specifically saying that then I apologize to you PastramiX, but I do remember someone here doing so.

 

****. Really? You resort to a ****ing "I know you are but what am I?" retort? I actually can't ****ing believe this.

 

You, good sir, are a child.

 

Well at least I'm acting like an adult then, considering I rarely swear here at all, and you did it 3 times in two sentences.

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It's more of that I usually ignore you in general, because the conversation typically devolves into a brawl.

Maybe if you actually debated without resorting to faulty conjecture or failed logic and learned to use basic reading comprehension, we'd actually have a reasonable conversation. As you've proved now and in the past, you are utterly incapable of doing so and thus only have yourself to blame for the conversation 'devolving'.

 

Or maybe you're just ignoring me because you really can't refute what I've said, which is also just as likely, given that you've clammed up before when people have posted things that you can't reasonably respond to. Not that any of your responses can be classified as 'reasonable' anyway.

 

Whichever reason it is you have for ignoring me, it's dishonest and you really need to stop.

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Not that any of your responses can be classified as 'reasonable' anyway.

Whichever reason it is you have for ignoring me, it's dishonest and you really need to stop.

 

This likely explains why he ignores you. Why should it bother you, anyway?

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Yeah, bullying others does fit those descriptions as well. Why are you worried, though? Many people throughout LF apparently use the "ignore" function anyway. Why not just ignore Garf? Afterall, the less you guys reply to his "irrational" posts, the less frequently he is to post after awhile b /c there will be noone to "talk to". Or is that too rational? ;)

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Well at least I'm acting like an adult then, considering I rarely swear here at all, and you did it 3 times in two sentences.

Actually, it was 3 times in 3 sentences.

 

Also, I fail to see how swearing makes me a child. Perhaps you could enlighten me as to why my rage over your intellect is childish?

 

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I fail to see your logic in claiming Bush is the anti-Christ to be even remotely factual. Nor is the Bush being out to take over the world argument...

 

Seriously, I would post the 9/11 argument about Bill Ayers which one of you accused me of making up, but I'd probably be infracted for spam.

The irony is palpable here.

 

I don't recall people calling Bush the anti-Christ here or in this thread, and I don't recall people saying that Bush wanted to take over the world. Typical ignorant fear mongering.

 

And, ontop of that, you complain about over the top opinions while trying to present one right below the complaint.

 

It's more of if someone is going to act like a 3 year old, I'm going to treat them like a three year old. There is such a thing as right and wrong, and excuse me if I value my 1st and 2nd Amendment rights.

So, liberals are all 3 year olds and that is how you justify being far-right? (and yes, you are far right despite your claims)

 

Despite your claims to "right and wrong" and the other BS you spew, you seem awfully fine with stamping on "liberals" faces when it sees you fit. Do you even see them as humans, or just children or animals that are holding you back?

 

You have given no indication that you want to to debate with them as you have basically spelled out that you wish they were gone. If you aren't here to debate, then get out or we can help you out the door. I'm damn tired of you treating this place like a blog.

 

You feeling cool with the fact the Liberal Left (I believe you did as well), compared Bush to Hitler. (If I'm mistaken on you specifically saying that then I apologize to you PastramiX, but I do remember someone here doing so.

As much as you seem to be fine with Obama being called a socialist, Hitler, etc.

 

And don't give me that "I think it is wrong on both sides" BS, because you've only ever brought up the liberal left on this.

 

Well at least I'm acting like an adult then, considering I rarely swear here at all, and you did it 3 times in two sentences.

And trolling this forum is adult?

 

No, quite frankly you are acting like a child who is putting his fingers in his ears and screaming. It is really grating on everyone's nerves, as I feel you are quite aware.

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I forgot 'cowardly' and 'irrational' too. My apologies.

 

To sum it up it's called ignoring a bully, which in my view is all you are. I can have extremely good debates with some people here one on one, but generally the people that respond to me on these threads seem unable to get their heads out of their behinds long enough to stop and consider the fact that I may actually be pointing out legitimate facts that call into question stances that you have taken.

 

I used to read what everyone here wrote, but quite frankly a lot of you with your juvenile antics (some of which I have screenshots of (sad part is you can't even realize it's juvenile only because it's bashing conservatives)), have lost any respect I might have had for you at one time.

 

For the record, there are a few liberals here that I respect, and we've actually had good debates, which is maybe why I keep hoping that some people here will actually wise up and stop drinking the Kool-Aid.

 

I don't recall people calling Bush the anti-Christ here or in this thread, and I don't recall people saying that Bush wanted to take over the world. Typical ignorant fear mongering.

 

I'm sure you've also forgotten the thread where either you or jmac had McCain supposedly having his wife in the crosshairs (I believe it was either a Wolfenstein 3D style or Duke Nuke'um style game thing).

 

And, ontop of that, you complain about over the top opinions while trying to present one right below the complaint.

 

Over the top in your opinion.

 

So, liberals are all 3 year olds and that is how you justify being far-right? (and yes, you are far right despite your claims)

 

I'm not saying all liberals but you get gang-up bashed on enough by the same people whom are all far-left liberals, you're going to have a fairly low opinion of liberals in general. There are a few liberals on Lucasforums that I don't mind, and can have an intelligent conversation with.

 

Despite your claims to "right and wrong" and the other BS you spew, you seem awfully fine with stamping on "liberals" faces when it sees you fit. Do you even see them as humans, or just children or animals that are holding you back?

 

First I see Liberals as people, just I usually see liberals as elitist snobs that think they are better than everyone else and thus entitled to certain things when they aren't. If I saw liberals as children, then I'd be a lot more patient with them, than I am being with you.

 

You have given no indication that you want to to debate with them as you have basically spelled out that you wish they were gone. If you aren't here to debate, then get out or we can help you out the door. I'm damn tired of you treating this place like a blog.

 

Heed your own words then, if myself and about 3-4 others weren't here, this would be nothing more THAN a Leftwing blog. I'd like you to try to have a look at senate records I pulled before instead of just dismissing it as propaganda.

 

As much as you seem to be fine with Obama being called a socialist, Hitler, etc.

 

I'm fine with Obama being called a socialist because he was a member of the New Socialist Party. Despite the fact they tried to cover that fact up after it was exposed, so it's a matter of record. The Hitler thing is a bit of a stretch at the moment, I generally dismiss the people with that kind of poster out of hand as some nutjob that showed up at the teaparty protests, or someone that went a little too far because they are ticked.

 

And don't give me that "I think it is wrong on both sides" BS, because you've only ever brought up the liberal left on this.

 

I usually don't have to bring up the right wing people that do it because practically every news organization in the country is willing to bring it up to bash conservatives over the head before I even hear about it.

 

 

And trolling this forum is adult?

 

I'm not trolling, I'm not coming up with a false charecter to try to sabotage people, I'm not a plant either, something tells me you don't know what the word means...

 

No, quite frankly you are acting like a child who is putting his fingers in his ears and screaming. It is really grating on everyone's nerves, as I feel you are quite aware.

 

No, I'm just not going to consider sources like MoveOn.org, MediaMatters, or MSNBC to be valid sources.

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Heed your own words then, if myself and about 3-4 others weren't here, this would be nothing more THAN a Leftwing blog. I'd like you to try to have a look at senate records I pulled before instead of just dismissing it as propaganda.
Seldom is there any threads saying "McCain's fascist policies ban marriage" or like. Few "liberals" create threads designed to discredit every single aspect of Republicans, conservatives, and the like, which has been the complete opposite of every single thread of yours.
The Hitler thing is a bit of a stretch at the moment, I generally dismiss the people with that kind of poster out of hand as some nutjob that showed up at the teaparty protests, or someone that went a little too far because they are ticked.
But the Barack Hussein Osama thing is okay? :confused:

 

Forgive me if I can't comprehend your superior logic.

No, I'm just not going to consider sources like MoveOn.org, MediaMatters, or MSNBC to be valid sources.
But you're willing to use biased sites such as Newsbusters and LittleGreenFootballs? Wouldn't that be hypocritical?
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Seldom is there any threads saying "McCain's fascist policies ban marriage" or like. Few "liberals" create threads designed to discredit every single aspect of Republicans, conservatives, and the like, which has been the complete opposite of every single thread of yours.

 

Where have you been? I've seen people bash McCain, bash Palin, hurl stuff they knew wasn't true. (and I'm going to stop there unless I get it in writing that I'm not going to be infracted for pointing out the rest of it.

 

But the Barack Hussein Osama thing is okay? :confused:

 

 

I'd say it's borderline, Hussein is his middle name, not sure if they were making a reference to Bin Laden deliberately or if it was a typo.

 

Forgive me if I can't comprehend your superior logic.But you're willing to use biased sites such as Newsbusters and LittleGreenFootballs? Wouldn't that be hypocritical?

 

Glad you asked, there is a difference, most news sites anymore just throw up whatever the AP or Reuters says without checking it. Newsbusters has a tendency to source things when they put up their take on something, whether that be video, audio, etc. Usually they use left-wing sources in that regard so you can usually find both sides from the article or have a reference to find both sides. The mainstream media by and large does not do this, which is why I'd take Newsbusters as a source over most of the media.

 

Littlegreenfootballs is an interesting source, I'm aware of its bias, I'm also aware of its track record at uncovering things and catching 'reputable' news agencies of out and out lying. I usually have to read a second source before I use littlegreenfootballs, but there is a decent track record there for a blog site.

 

you also dont consider cnn, bbc, ap, reuters, and pretty much every major news organization valid sources if they disagree with you so uhh **** you and everyone like you

 

I don't consider CNN a valid News source, and the fact they got caught at distorting a story to make average Americans look like racists. Reuters and the AP got caught out and out taking bogus photos during the Israeli/Lebanon War (photos that some 5 year olds could have done a better job) and post it up as the gospel truth. (Littlegreenfootballs was one of the conservative bloggers that caught them at it and called them on it)

 

BBC got nailed for the same incident, as did CNN and later Reuters admitted the photos had been doctored.

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To sum it up it's called ignoring a bully, which in my view is all you are. I can have extremely good debates with some people here one on one, but generally the people that respond to me on these threads seem unable to get their heads out of their behinds long enough to stop and consider the fact that I may actually be pointing out legitimate facts that call into question stances that you have taken.

I read every pose you make in Senate and I read every one in Kavars. Your posts more often than not lack sources, mostly consist of red herrings, and are lacking anything I'd call reasoning.

 

Why? Because you start out with titles like "liberals are doing such and such", which just shows that you have started a thread with an obvious bias and are not interested in debating.

 

If you actually want to debate, stop crushing liberals under your foot. Regardless of what you think you are doing, all you come across as is a fear mongering idiot.

 

I'm sure you are a lot more than that, but your posts give me and the rest of this forum no idea to another side of you.

 

I used to read what everyone here wrote, but quite frankly a lot of you with your juvenile antics (some of which I have screenshots of (sad part is you can't even realize it's juvenile only because it's bashing conservatives)), have lost any respect I might have had for you at one time.

Says the guy who bashes liberals.

 

You need to learn what a hypocrite is before you tell someone how to debate. It is juvenile to bash either side endlessly and all you do is bash liberals and support conservatives.

 

You are juvenile by your own definition and don't even realize it, blinded by your own bias and lack of empathy.

 

For the record, there are a few liberals here that I respect, and we've actually had good debates, which is maybe why I keep hoping that some people here will actually wise up and stop drinking the Kool-Aid.

Frankly I don't believe you respect a single Liberal. I don't. From your posting style, comments, hot words, etc you have given me no hint that you even consider them equal humans.

 

And I dare you to use that kool-aid hot word again. I dare you. You are so intent on seeing thing in black and white, conservative/liberal that its beginning to hit the point of hate speech.

 

You are not here to get us to "wise up". You are here to debate, not use this as a propaganda stand.

 

I'm sure you've also forgotten the thread where either you or jmac had McCain supposedly having his wife in the crosshairs (I believe it was either a Wolfenstein 3D style or Duke Nuke'um style game thing).

It was not me, so double check the post.

 

Over the top in your opinion.

And our opinions are over the top in yours. See? We're getting somewhere.

 

I'm not saying all liberals but you get gang-up bashed on enough by the same people whom are all far-left liberals, you're going to have a fairly low opinion of liberals in general. There are a few liberals on Lucasforums that I don't mind, and can have an intelligent conversation with.

You do realize that it isn't liberals that are ganging up on you, but people who think your posts are rubblish.

 

If you'd like to look back, Toten/Tommycat and others not on the "liberal" side have commented on your ineptitude as well.

 

This isn't liberals kicking you around. This is a debate forum trying to get you to debate and stop blogging.

 

First I see Liberals as people, just I usually see liberals as elitist snobs that think they are better than everyone else and thus entitled to certain things when they aren't. If I saw liberals as children, then I'd be a lot more patient with them, than I am being with you.

Are you don't think you're better than liberals? Really?

 

You're as much a conservative elitist snob as the elitist liberals here. Just because you are some kind of evener of the odds does not make that any less true.

 

Heed your own words then, if myself and about 3-4 others weren't here, this would be nothing more THAN a Leftwing blog. I'd like you to try to have a look at senate records I pulled before instead of just dismissing it as propaganda.

You destroyed Kavars, destroyed the Contact Staff forum, and are now destroying Senate.

 

You are not a conservative voice. You're just a blogger without a blog.

 

I'm fine with Obama being called a socialist because he was a member of the New Socialist Party. Despite the fact they tried to cover that fact up after it was exposed, so it's a matter of record. The Hitler thing is a bit of a stretch at the moment, I generally dismiss the people with that kind of poster out of hand as some nutjob that showed up at the teaparty protests, or someone that went a little too far because they are ticked.

I believe the leader of the Socialist party publicly stated that Obama's beliefs directly contradicted their own.

 

The Obama is a socialist thing is scare tactic by Fox News, who, by the way, use Socialist and Fascist in the same sentences while describing Obama.

 

The two are mutually exclusive, and if you can't make that connection then I don't know what to say.

 

I usually don't have to bring up the right wing people that do it because practically every news organization in the country is willing to bring it up to bash conservatives over the head before I even hear about it.

Usually don't have to or just choose not to?

 

I'm not trolling, I'm not coming up with a false character to try to sabotage people, I'm not a plant either, something tells me you don't know what the word means...

The fact you don't know you are trolling says enough. You are either doing it willingly or unconsciously, but either way you are trolling Senate and I believe I can get the entire LF staff to back me up on that.

 

No, I'm just not going to consider sources like MoveOn.org, MediaMatters, or MSNBC to be valid sources.

Yet you consider your biased sources fine. Hypocrisy thy name is you.

 

Where have you been? I've seen people bash McCain, bash Palin, hurl stuff they knew wasn't true. (and I'm going to stop there unless I get it in writing that I'm not going to be infracted for pointing out the rest of it.

You're in Senate. The mods seem to be interested in keeping you, so feel free to post away.

 

I don't consider CNN a valid News source, and the fact they got caught at distorting a story to make average Americans look like racists. Reuters and the AP got caught out and out taking bogus photos during the Israeli/Lebanon War (photos that some 5 year olds could have done a better job) and post it up as the gospel truth. (Littlegreenfootballs was one of the conservative bloggers that caught them at it and called them on it)

 

BBC got nailed for the same incident, as did CNN and later Reuters admitted the photos had been doctored.

And there is no chance that your bloggers are distorting anything at all? That their subjective blogging would get in the way of the actual story?

 

I'd say it's borderline, Hussein is his middle name, not sure if they were making a reference to Bin Laden deliberately or if it was a typo.

I ****ing love how whenever a Liberal says or posts something it is without a shadow of a doubt their fault...

 

But if A video, picture, etc is posted you pull out your graphics design degree and claim its a false, or a person mistake. If Obama says something it is on him, but if a Fox News speaker makes an anti-jew comment then it must have been a blunder. If "Osama" is clearly written on a sign someone has probably been holding for hours, it is a mistype.

 

You aren't here to find a middle ground, have polite debate with liberals, or any of the other BS you are spewing.

 

You are here to troll, regardless of if you know it or not.

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I read every pose you make in Senate and I read every one in Kavars. Your posts more often than not lack sources, mostly consist of red herrings, and are lacking anything I'd call reasoning.

 

For the record, there were a number of incidents where a certain staff member went in and deleted posts where I provided sources.

 

Why? Because you start out with titles like "liberals are doing such and such", which just shows that you have started a thread with an obvious bias and are not interested in debating.

 

Because normally the media won't point that stuff out, and on the flipside you guys constantly bash conservatives, if I had a dollar for all the times you guys pushed for Bush being prosecuted I could retire a millionare.

 

If you actually want to debate, stop crushing liberals under your foot. Regardless of what you think you are doing, all you come across as is a fear mongering idiot.

 

Problem with that analogy is that I'm not exagerating at all, in order to be a fear-monger I would have to using it to just be trying to inspire fear to accomplish a hidden agenda, which is not it, I'm honestly scared to death based on the information I've found and honestly wish it was wrong, but the more I've found the more my fears are confirmed.

 

I'm sure you are a lot more than that, but your posts give me and the rest of this forum no idea to another side of you.

 

I tend not to let people who actively insult me especially when my views differ from theirs know too much about me.

 

Says the guy who bashes liberals.

 

I've actually refrained a lot from retailiatory insults towards people on the forums until recently because quite frankly I've been pushed a bit too far.

 

You need to learn what a hypocrite is before you tell someone how to debate. It is juvenile to bash either side endlessly and all you do is bash liberals and support conservatives.

 

Actually I've got problems with some conservatives, I don't often agree with Rush, there are some issues I do agree with him on, I think Ann Coulter is on the fringe. That said, I don't think it's appropriate to call Ms. Coulter a bitch because of her political beliefs.

 

You are juvenile by your own definition and don't even realize it, blinded by your own bias and lack of empathy.

 

Oh that's strange, considering I can't even play a darkside char in KotOR I & II nor darkside Jaden Korr because I constantly feel guilty hurting others.

 

Frankly I don't believe you respect a single Liberal. I don't. From your posting style, comments, hot words, etc you have given me no hint that you even consider them equal humans.

 

Darth333 and I have had debates before and I respect her.

 

And I dare you to use that kool-aid hot word again. I dare you. You are so intent on seeing thing in black and white, conservative/liberal that its beginning to hit the point of hate speech.

 

So now you're accusing me of being a hate-monger? What next you going to play the race card...

 

You are not here to get us to "wise up". You are here to debate, not use this as a propaganda stand.

 

Likewise it isn't you or other liberal's propaganda stand either, or its not supposed to be.

 

It was not me, so double check the post.

 

I will, if it wasn't you I will apologize and say who it was.

 

And our opinions are over the top in yours. See? We're getting somewhere.

 

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You do realize that it isn't liberals that are ganging up on you, but people who think your posts are rubblish.

 

If you'd like to look back, Toten/Tommycat and others not on the "liberal" side have commented on your ineptitude as well.

 

This isn't liberals kicking you around. This is a debate forum trying to get you to debate and stop blogging.

 

No, if you'll note part of what they said was sarcasm and actually taking a shot at you guys, if Toten/Tommycat have a problem they'd pm me in private.

 

Are you don't think you're better than liberals? Really?

 

You're as much a conservative elitist snob as the elitist liberals here. Just because you are some kind of evener of the odds does not make that any less true.

 

I actually just think you people have arrived at the wrong conclusions or misinterpreted facts, I don't think I'm inheritently better than any other human being.

 

You destroyed Kavars, destroyed the Contact Staff forum, and are now destroying Senate.

 

Kavars' was destroyed to begin with even before I became active there, there was a long history of staff members abusing their powers there. The Contact Staff forum maybe I used the nuke option too much, but bear in mind I had lost all faith in the integrity of the general staff of Lucasforums with a few exceptions.

 

You are not a conservative voice. You're just a blogger without a blog.

 

And without me, Tommycat, and Toten, this place would be nothing more than a giant left wing blog.

 

I believe the leader of the Socialist party publicly stated that Obama's beliefs directly contradicted their own.

 

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out why he would say that (because he knew it would cost Obama the election).

 

The Obama is a socialist thing is scare tactic by Fox News, who, by the way, use Socialist and Fascist in the same sentences while describing Obama.

 

It isn't a scare tactic, and you're taking some of what was said out of context, and Fox News provided some pretty good evidence to prove the Socialism part.

 

The two are mutually exclusive, and if you can't make that connection then I don't know what to say.

 

Something tells me you're taking what was said way out of context and it wasn't quite what they said.

 

Sean has asked why isn't Obama proud of this country and point out we beat back "Fascism."

 

Usually don't have to or just choose not to?

 

It's more of don't have to because I know there will already be a topic on the forum and at least 5-6 posts in it by the time I first see the article.

 

The fact you don't know you are trolling says enough. You are either doing it willingly or unconsciously, but either way you are trolling Senate and I believe I can get the entire LF staff to back me up on that.

 

Actually, I know I'm not trolling and I can back that part up cause I looked up the definition.

 

But if A video, picture, etc is posted you pull out your graphics design degree and claim its a false, or a person mistake. If Obama says something it is on him, but if a Fox News speaker makes an anti-jew comment then it must have been a blunder. If "Osama" is clearly written on a sign someone has probably been holding for hours, it is a mistype.

 

And there is a case where an MSNBC news affiliate got sued for an employee splicing together a video to make it look like a Fox Employee referred to Mr. Holder as a baboon. Unless I actually see it on Fox News I tend to be hesitant to believe what I see is said to have been said on Fox News because of that reason (especially since there has been a pattern of this).

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Because normally the media won't point that stuff out, and on the flipside you guys constantly bash conservatives, if I had a dollar for all the times you guys pushed for Bush being prosecuted I could retire a millionare.
So if you question Bush's actions that makes you a liberal? At what point do you abandon the black and white dichotomy and allow yourself the possibility that the ability to reason has some value?

 

I'm sure you're already aware of this, but just in case you weren't, here is what your posts sound like:

 

Blinding following conservative rhetoric = good.

Not = bad.

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