Jump to content

Home

Last British WWI veteran dies aged 111.


Astor

Recommended Posts

Normally I shy away from RIP threads, but I feel this is different.

 

Story.

 

Harry Patch, the last British Soldier of the Great War died today aged 111. I'm sure you'll agree that it's a remarkable achievement for anyone to live to that age, let alone for a man who survived the horrors of Passchendaele 92 years ago.

 

Yet, he kept on fighting, through to the end of the war, and would serve as a Fireman during the Second World War.

 

This of course comes only a week after Britain's Oldest Man, and RNAS and RAF veteran Henry Allingham died aged 113. And now, with Mr. Patch's death, the generation of men and women who fought for King and Country comes to an end.

 

Rest In Peace, Harry, you've earned it.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

RIP to Harry and those like him who stepped up to oppose those who were merely trying to prevent themselves from being crushed in a vise between Russia and France.

Fixed.

 

I'm sorry, but the Central Powers were hardly trying to conquer the world, or even Europe for that matter. The Germans thought that their survival as a nation was at stake.

 

Aside from nationalism there were no real bad guys in that war, which is one of the two main reasons why it was such a monumental tragedy. The other is that the disgraceful manner in which the victors treated the vanquished by imposing the ridiculously harsh terms in the treaty that ended it was the direct cause of World War II, an even bigger tragedy.

 

 

So, RIP to Harry, and to everyone else who fought and died in what is perhaps the most unnecessary large-scale conflict in history.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Do me a favor...don't attempt to put words in my mouth. I meant what I said. Had the Central Powers been winning do you really believe they would have stopped? Frankly, the direct actions of the central powers caused the war and I don't have any sympathy for them. Should Germany have shouldered the entire blame...no...they shouldn't have and did it lead to the Second World War, yes, but the start of the First World War was direct result of the declarations of war by Austria-Hungry on Serbia, and Germany on Russia. If anything it was the Russians and the French who were trying to protect their national interests as Austria-Hungary invaded Serbia and Germany mobilized its forces to support Austria Hungary.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Harry Patch, the last British Soldier of the Great War died today aged 111. I'm sure you'll agree that it's a remarkable achievement for anyone to live to that age, let alone for a man who survived the horrors of Passchendaele 92 years ago.

 

See my spirit on the wind

across the lines beyond the hill

friend and foe will meet again

those who died at Paschendale

 

RIP Patch

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Firstly, all due respect to Harry for his longevity.

 

.. who stepped up to oppose those who would have seen the entire world crushed under their feet.

 

There's more to History than such glib, Hollywood style comments.

 

Not all who fought in WWI were stepping up for a noble cause against the approaching Hun Menace, though it was never entirely clear whether the Germans had the capacity to take The British Isles back then.

 

During this heroism however, some British and their Allied forces were quite intent on doing some invading of their own. About to plunge into Civil War, Churchill(back then Lord of The Admiralty) saw it as a ripe opportunity to invade Turkey in 1915 in The Gallipoli Campaign and attempt take control of the massively important trade centre/port at Istanbul. With its current internal turmoil, Turkey was never a threat to UK, Australia, New Zealand or India, all of whom turned up with Bayonets fixed. Defending King and Country? I think not.

 

Of course, in History The Turks themselves did their fair share of sword waving and invading. The main point I am trying to deliver is that there is no glory in inflicting death, pain and suffering, no matter what the motivation.

Rememberance of the fallen can be separate and solemn without rejoicing(or lamenting) the political ramifications of all nations' conflicts. The first and foremost effect of war is Misery.

 

Without them the world as we know it would be a much different place.

 

Different perhaps, better or worse? Hard to say. Had WW1 ended differently, WW2 may have been entirely different, or may never have eventuated. The brutal and quite frankly greedy reparations imposed upon Germany in The 'Treaty' Of Versailles made conditions rife for Anti Semitic extremists like Hitler to be given creedence.

 

War is always a bad business. Im not sure there is anything noble about it at any time. It looks great on the movies of course.

 

A British Captain who was shot in The Somme during WW1 wrote in his memoirs:

 

"Men making war are little more than mischievous apes, who should only shamefully call themselves civilised."

 

I tend to agree :violin:

 

War will always exist, but thinking it is anything more than sanctioned murder of man against man for profit or imposition of dominant will is a farcical.

 

mtfbwya

Link to comment
Share on other sites

thinking it is anything more than sanctioned murder of man against man for profit or imposition of dominant will is a farcical

 

Harry said a very similar statement himself.

 

Remember, these people were called to service and many hundreds of thousands of them died before even experiencing life. I'm taking a few minutes of today to think about Harry and the masses of victims of the great war... not dredging up the Political-financial motives of the defunct British empire and their "We'll be safe back here in our stately homes while the Plebeians Die, and the Ethnic's get poorer" Aristocracy.

 

R.I.P Harry

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Harry said a very similar statement himself.

 

not dredging up the Political-financial motives of the defunct British empire and their "We'll be safe back here in our stately homes while the Plebeians Die, and the Ethnic's get poorer" Aristocracy.

 

Well said adamqd. French philosopher JP Sartre said something very similar:

"When the rich make war it's the poor that die" ~ Jean-Paul Sartre

 

I used to work at a Veteran's Hospital a few years ago, mostly WW2 chaps, some from Vietnam. I didnt meet one who thought positively of war. One chap summed it up perfectly in an interview he gave on Veterans(Anzac) Day. He was asked what it was like going to fight in the Pacific against the Japanese, to which his only reply was:

 

"I think I'd prefer to have gone to the pub" ;)

 

mtfbwya

Link to comment
Share on other sites

R.I.P. Mr. Patch.

 

Few people live that long. Have a few in my family who've made it that far or beyond, several near the 100 mark. I'd agree indeed having a positive deservance (or good karma) as well as taking care of yourself is vital to living with longevity.

 

And his fellow at 113? I'm impressed!

 

Glad they served.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Nice age. The guy has my respect for keeping his body alive for this long. Oh, and his other achievements have been noted as well. ;)

 

Everybody's dying.

 

Every year, every month, every week, every day, every hour, every minute...

 

But many are also born. ;)

Link to comment
Share on other sites

That's strange to confront the reality that during my lifetime, there were WWI veterans and titanic survivors. Now all witnesses of that event and the great war are now deceased; all firsthand knowledge gone. Now it is up to us to preserve as much of that history as possible, because none now live to tell of it.

 

Rest in peace to the men still on patrol and to those who returned to tell us of it.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

×
×
  • Create New...