Jake Posted May 12 Share Posted May 12 The one I got is from 1993, we’ll see if the maps line up. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laserschwert Posted May 12 Author Share Posted May 12 We'll see, but based on typography I guess we'll need either the 1989, 1990 or 1991 edition. The 1992 edition already has a slightly updated typography. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thrik Posted May 12 Share Posted May 12 I for one am willing to excuse a few missing roads or whatever. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laserschwert Posted May 12 Author Share Posted May 12 The question is so, how we would put this new knowledge to use. Obviously I'll add a poster version of HTR with its border, but apart from that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CalisDraws Posted May 12 Share Posted May 12 (edited) OH MY GOSH!!! You guys are my heroes!! How did you find something so similar so fast!!! @Crumb Thank you so much for the detective work!! 8 minutes ago, Laserschwert said: The question is so, how we would put this new knowledge to use. Obviously I'll add a poster version of HTR with its border, but apart from that? Well, the reason I need it is because I'm too young to have been around back in the lucasarts days and boxed copies of these games are just too expensive for me to purchase, so I wanted to make reproduction boxes for myself (like those people who make prototype boxes for their board games) just so I could have them on my shelf, I recreated a lot of the Hit the Road Box text and assets myself (outdated gifs from the very begining) : But the background (although it WOULD be possible to remake it myself) would take too much time to recreate and would probably not be as good as if I just used the actual one... VERY selfish reason to want this map, I know..... Edited May 12 by CalisDraws 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laserschwert Posted May 12 Author Share Posted May 12 (edited) Now that's some excellent reproduction work. You should open a dedicated thread for that! I've thought about doing more custom boxes myself, but mostly for stuff that didn't get a big box (or a very limited one, like ToMI), like BTTF or the Double Fine remasters. Edited May 12 by Laserschwert 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CalisDraws Posted May 12 Share Posted May 12 41 minutes ago, Laserschwert said: I've thought about doing more custom boxes myself, but mostly for stuff that didn't get a big box (or a very limited one, like ToMI), like BTTF or the Double Fine remasters. Oh my gosh! I actually wanted to make one for the Grim Fandango remaster too! The Hit the Road one is my first attempt (because Sam and Max is the first thing I gravitated towards initially) and I started it a good while ago, like 8 months ago I think? I had to take a break from it when I hit the roadblock of the background map, plus I had to go abroad for an end of studies internship in January so this kind of took priority hahaha. I wanted to see how the process of making the box would go before starting any other box. I am still abroad right now and don't have my tablet with me, I'll have to pick that project back up in August when I return so I don't think opening a thread right now would do anything haha! However, when I get back to doing this, I'd love to document the process of actually putting the box together so maybe I'll ask if I can make a thread about it when I get to that! If the process goes well and the boxes look good enough, I was thinking of making them for other lucasarts or non lucasarts games (I want to make one for the Neverhood because I feel like it) and making them available for anyone to download and print out at home as papercraft projects (I, for one want to make a tiny version for my Sam and Max figures to hold in their hands) or to make their own reproductions (for people like me who can't afford to buy a legitimate one off of ebay or even those whose boxes are damaged and can't be displayed). Sorry for the ramble... TL; DR; I'd love to make reproduction boxes for more games and I'd love to make them available for everyone to print out at home. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laserschwert Posted May 13 Author Share Posted May 13 (edited) As a quick test I took the 1977 map (which had the best quality at Archive.org), cleaned it up and color-matched it to the back of the game's manual: We should get an even better results as soon as we can work with uncompressed high-resolution scans. Edited May 13 by Laserschwert 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CalisDraws Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 I should have asked about the map a long time ago instead of lurking for months like I did, you guys are so smart! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laserschwert Posted May 13 Author Share Posted May 13 Maybe @Crumb can also unearth the map used on the Fate of Atlantis box/manual? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanguinehearts Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 1 hour ago, Laserschwert said: Maybe @Crumb can also unearth the map used on the Fate of Atlantis box/manual? There's a larger area visible in this advert which might make it easier to track down. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crumb Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 (edited) Ha!, you know I like a challenge, <goes and gets IFOA box & engage googlefu> ...and <15mins later yeah think I've found the Indy Map. I'd says it's "The Coasts and Islands of the Aegean Sea" by Cartographer William Hughes c1867. Engraved by G.E Sherman From the Book "An Atlas of Classical Geography constructed by William Hughes and edited by George Long" Links Previously Sold Item, but not bad scan and one on abebooks by the looks here Edited May 14 by Crumb 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laserschwert Posted May 14 Author Share Posted May 14 Amazing! That's really impressive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crumb Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 15 hours ago, sanguinehearts said: There's a larger area visible in this advert which might make it easier to track down. I quickly stitched this together from the Geographicus link above. The Indy map is clearly from the same engraving, there could be lots of different variations of hand coloured prints though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laserschwert Posted May 14 Author Share Posted May 14 Yeah, it might get a bit tricky to get rid of the red coastlines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crumb Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 (edited) 55 minutes ago, Laserschwert said: Yeah, it might get a bit tricky to get rid of the red coastlines. I think with a careful use of HSL adjustment on the Reds & Magenta it can be greatly improved. super quick example attached, it can probably be improved with time, but way better than just greyscale conversion. Also I wonder if you end up with an original hardcopy, scanning it through a red transparency then converting the image to mono might well work too. This is the book it is from https://archive.org/details/atlasofclassical00hugh Page 97 Edited May 14 by Crumb 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CalisDraws Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 Crumb you are a wizard!!! I'm so glad you decided to get in the forum, you're gonna have to teach me how you manage to find these obscure things!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderPeel2001 Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 That's some serious Google-Fu! Did you manipulate the RED channel to remove the coastal lines? That's what I would have tried. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crumb Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 5 hours ago, ThunderPeel2001 said: That's some serious Google-Fu! Did you manipulate the RED channel to remove the coastal lines? That's what I would have tried. Yes that's right. I used a Hue Saturation Lightness (HSL) on the Red and Magenta Channels for that. I suppose what we don't know is who coloured the map for the box & manual art. Was it already on an engraving print or did they add it when producing the packaging. It's also probable new copper plates were engraved over many years of editions of the book, as they wore out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laserschwert Posted May 15 Author Share Posted May 15 (edited) We should really have a kind of war chest for items like these maps, so that we could easily purchase material like this for the project. Edited May 15 by Laserschwert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laserschwert Posted May 15 Author Share Posted May 15 (edited) A bunch of scans of this book (and the map) are available online for free at several university libraries. This one seems to be the best one (at #116): https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=uc2.ark:/13960/t2r500b87 But they are all not great, so I'd rather scan it myself. Reprints of the book aren't that expensive, so I guess I'll get one of those and hope the print quality doesn't suck. Edited May 15 by Laserschwert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crumb Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 (edited) I had a few mins so thought I'd have another look. I've found a different impression, this one without the red. some subtle blue around the islands. https://www.hipkiss.org/cgi-bin/zoom.pl?id=653 apparently 1200 dpi is available EDIT scratch that: it's slightly different -it doesn't have the concentric lines around the islands Interestingly though this one is Engraved by Hughes himself, and doesn't have the concentrics, the G.E.Sherman one might be a later re-engraving? Edited May 15 by Crumb 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laserschwert Posted May 15 Author Share Posted May 15 Alright, I bought a paperback version of the book for 13 bucks... we'll see. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lagomorph01 Posted May 19 Share Posted May 19 @CalisDraws, I found something that might help you make the ultimate LucasArts Big Box facsimile! I found these ZakMcKracken uncut box print plates online. They were on Ebay, but they're long sold now. The seller claimed they were real. Maybe you can use them to get the exact dimensions, or to get a feel of how the boxes are when they're unfolded. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CalisDraws Posted May 19 Share Posted May 19 (edited) Ooh thank you!! It seems like the Zak McKracken box is actually a different kind of box looking at this. The boxes I'll aim to replicate are made of 2 parts (the lid and the tray) but this one looks like it's just one box, folded up! It gives me a good idea of what the cutting pattern will have to look like if I ever get to making a ZakMcKracken one though! Thank you a lot!! Edited May 19 by CalisDraws 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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