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wich age group are you in?  

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  1. 1. wich age group are you in?

    • 8 - 10 years old
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    • 11 - 16 years old
      14
    • 17 - 20 years old
      17
    • 21 - and older
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I hope no one holds the fact I use yer instead of your or you're against me. Thats just from being brought up to speak redneckesse and yes. I do say yer in RL as well. Along with some other unusual words that'll try not to use on here because I'm sure they'll make me look like the poster child for special ed. Of course they don't look nearly as bad typed as how I actually pronounce them:p

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If you are refering to my habbit of using punctuation and capitolization in posts, I just find posts with good grammar easy to read.

I don't type like this to appear smart...

 

If that is not what you are talking about, then you lost me.

No, what I mean is, it's hard to measure someones Intelligence by looking at his grammar.

And, no, I did not aim towards the way you type. ;)

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Hmm, seems the Associates are a diverse bunch. What I'd like to know is what convinces 30+ year olds to join a pre-20's mostly group? I'm not a member of the Associates, but this is the only forum with regular posts. I'm 24 for the record, I didn't vote though, to try to keep the integrity of the poll...

 

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Of course after further evaluation, i answered my own question. The Associates seem to be the ONLY active and organized (somewhat) PA around. Kudos.

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*sings along to Stereo Total (Brezel Göring has got wicked bra priveleges)*

 

"I love you, ONO

Diamond ring, CHA CHA

Holiday sun, OPQ

Planet earth presents you

 

Big money,

Big system,

Big fame,

Big brother

 

I need you, ONO

Silver fox, CHA CHA

Swimming pool, ZAP ZAP

Planet earth presents you

 

No no no no I don't need it!

Perfect system I am fallin'!"

 

 

Me, drunk? On a friday night? Well I'd never!

 

"nationale 7

il faut la prendre près de la garonne à sètes

que l'on soit 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 ou 7

c'est une route qui fait recette

 

pour tes vacances

qui traverse la bourgogne et le provence?

qui fait paris, un petit faubourg, valence

et la banlieue de saint-paul de vence?

 

le ciel d'été remplit mon ceur de sa lucidité

chasse les aigreurs et les hostilités

qui font le malheur en quantité

tout excité!!!"

 

(you've got to admire a band that uses scissors as an ínstrument)

 

(and after this, I think I've edited this post ten times. You people have no idea how much i edit my posts. I spend as much time editing as I spend writing the "#!% in the first place!)

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Originally posted by Bunchu

Hmm, seems the Associates are a diverse bunch. What I'd like to know is what convinces 30+ year olds to join a pre-20's mostly group? I'm not a member of the Associates, but this is the only forum with regular posts. I'm 24 for the record, I didn't vote though, to try to keep the integrity of the poll...

 

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Of course after further evaluation, i answered my own question. The Associates seem to be the ONLY active and organized (somewhat) PA around. Kudos.

 

well its simple and its been said before i beleive it was altus thrawn who said that on the internet age doesnt matter so there you have it we dont really give a :swear: about age :D:thumbsup: well atleast i dont :p NO NO not the rake NOOOOO

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Someone asked what prompted the 30+ crowd to join with people less than 20, etc. Well, since I'm almost to the 40 crowd, heh, I guess I'll reply.

 

Age doesn't really matter, having a like mindset on what makes a game fun is more important to me. I don't want to be with the powergamers, I'm more of an explorer than a powergamer. I don't want to be with the PvPer crowd, although I do enjoy a little PvP every now and then, not all the time. I don't want to be in the group that thinks that their way to roleplay is "THE" only way to roleplay. So far what I've seen from the people in this PA they like to have fun, which is what I'm after. It's a game, gets you out of the day to day grind, whether that's work or school, which allows you to slip into the persona of someone else, if you can't have fun, no sense in playing.

 

Anyway that's my take on the situation.

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Well.. over here, you can buy alcohol that is stronger than 3.5% on your 20th birthday, so the tradition is to go buy it yourself on your birthday! Oh, and I guess a lot of people get alcohol on their 21th birthday. At least I got. And most of my friends get it every birthday, so why should the 21th be any different? ;)

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Well here in America, most people tend to frown on drunken teenage reveries... Something about how destructive we become... and those people who, for whatever reason, like to end up dead. :(

21 is not any different, Set. They do the same destructive, deadly things, only less people frown on it. ;):p

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Really, these "teenagers today, all drunken and shows no respect" is such a huge pile of... well... you know. Compare it to the fact that a hundred and fifty years ago, a lot of people still got their paychecks in liqour, not money (and we're talking about half a litre/day, or more), most of the huge famines that Europe suffered between the 1600's and the 1800's were so crippling because people made moonshine out of their entire harvest! The potatoe did not gain ground among farmers because it was efficient to grow and can survive low temperatures, it gained popularity in the 1800's because you get more gallons of booze out of an acre of potatoe fields than wheat or other grains. In comparison, todays youths are saints, really.

 

But then, in America, it's considered less destructive to own a gun than to drink alcohol, now that is something that I will never be able to understand! After all, while alcohol can have postitive sides, guns really can't do anything but kill. If I had to choose between being around a drunken person and an armed person, it's not hard to guess what I'd choose... :)

 

(but then, drinking american beer or whiskey must be described as destructive behaviour. It is undrinkable! Beer comes from Denmark or Germany (Guiness is an exception to the rule), and whiskey comes from England, Scotland or Ireland. Oh, and vodka comes from Russia. Simple as that! ;))

 

This said, it is good to have a careful approach to alcohol, it is, after all, a poison that numbs the brain. That is why it works, and that is also why it can be dangerous. This means that it is not wise to try it at a young age (first, your brain has a larger risk of taking damage, and you do have a larger risk of getting addicted), and it is not recommended to be drunk too often. If you are drunk several days a week for a long period, you can suffer permanent damage. Use caution, don't get drunk until you're 18, keep friends around, don't mix alcohol with 'real drugs', and you will find it a faithful companion. After all, nothing beats a cool vodka lemon on a hot summers day, or a chilled Harboe 2.8% beer after a football game.

 

EDIT:Oh, and I had to add this: the restriction of being 20 to buy alcohol is only at the "Systembolaget", the liqour store monopoly owned by the state. At bars, pubs etc, you have to be 18 to be served. You also have to be 18 to buy "Folköl" in food stores, beer with an alcohol percentage of 2,2-3,5. 2,8% is the perfect compromise, and folköl is the nostalgia beverage in Sweden, since it brings back memories for everyone of how days were before you could buy alcohol yourself, so you drank 12-15 folköl just to feel anything. Ah, those were the days... *sniff* *sniff*

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Well. I did not mean to encite a... whatever you call that reply.;) (I have had a REAL loss of words lately, and it is driving me NUTS!)

 

What I was saying, Set, is that people become "dangerous," wild, care-free, and deadly behind the wheel of heavy machinery whether they are 21 or 13, and their thoughts are skewed.

 

"Hey, Cletus? Should I just jump off of this here barn roof with these chicken feathers and fly down to the market for some more Heinecken?"

 

I think moderation is completely healthy, but in America, teenagers drink more alchohol, to the point of stupidity, BECAUSE it is illegal to drink at all. Somehow it just becomes ten times more appealing to them when they are not allowed to do it. You teach kindergartners Set. Is this NOT the truth at all?

 

(That is not meant as: Do your kindergartners drink... It means do they misbehave?)

 

And I would fear a drunkard with a firearm over ANYBODY else. ;)

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Im 15 n a half today so i get to drive sucka ducks w/ my mom. And if Galaxies didnt help me get the chicks before, I am positive that my mom and my minivan will help.

 

 

 

:fett: :fett: :fett: :fett:

''Put that in your pipe and smoke it''

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Yeah, I'm sure driving a minivan with your mom riding shotgun will def. help. :thumbsup:

 

Set, the only reason why we are able to have guns is because of our Constitution. Yes, there are some people who are trying to ammend the Constitution so we don't have guns. Because they feel it isn't relevant. And for the most part it isn't. We dont' really need local militia's anymore, so I guess we don't need guns. But for me, personally, it's all about the principle of it all and not the actuallity of having it. Hell, if I want to buy a gun, the government shouldn't stop me from buying it. As well, if I want my wife (don't have one yet) to get an abortion, I don't feel the government should say I can't. You'll always have opposite sides with the abortion issue as well as the gun issue. And I can't stand the people who blame violent video games for the actions their children take part in. Yes, they got the guns from some store/guy (Columbine kids), but where the hell were the parents? I mean, wtf, it's your own damn fault for not paying attention to your kid. Ya know? They blame vid. games for this when the parents aren't doing jack to prevent it let alone talk to their kid to find out what's up. As well, the way teens and little kids treat each other brought it upon themselves. There's always going to be groups picking on other groups, so the video game is a bunch of horse sh*t- just a scape goat for a bigger problem that no one wants to point their finger at 'cause it'll cause the person to be uncomfortable.

 

I don't think underage drinking would be a problem in the states if they just legalized drinking at the age of 18 or possibly 16. But it was like that back in the 60's or 70's but they raised the age requirement to 21 because there were more younger age car accidents. It almost seems that it was a direct relationship between the age of the driver and alcohol. And he's right, more underage drinking occurs because it's the forbidden fruit. Sure if tomorrow in America we lowered the drinking age to 16 there would be a few years of just absolute drinking problems- like drunk driving etc. But after a while it wouldn't be the forbidden fruit and there would be less problems. Also, our laws over here pertaining to drunk driving are way too loose. We just need to be more firm on them to prohibit it from happening. Hell, in Ireland a kid can have a beer if their hand can slap the bar- haha, but everyone knows beer was invented so the Irish wouldnt' conquer the world! Lol- I'm not irish but I always love saying that! Anways, there's my two american cents (rougly $5 canadien- lol just messing with you canadiens ;) ).

 

Btw- Set, I'm not arguing I'm just presenting more facts as well as some insight from my point of view. I do respect your opinion. :)

 

Don't forget to rep. belgium- hoegarten (spelling) is some pretty good stuff!!

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Well, if you compare sweden and the US, there are a few good reasons why teenage accidents are way, WAY less common here:

 

A) less drugs. Though the use of drugs are increasing here, teenagers and drugs are always a bad mix.

 

B) you have to be 18 to get a driving license, 16 to testdrive with someone (who, in turn, has to have had a licence for 5 years, 3 years without any marks). And a driving license is a hundred times as hard to get. Ok, exaggeration, but a driver simply has to reach a higher standard.

 

C) 18 to drink in bars, and an age-old slavic drinking culture.

 

D) only hunters with a hunter license has guns. Mind you, in rural areas guns are common, but for some reasons, non-americans are simple less viable to shoot themself, their friends, or strangers. This, evidentially, has nothing to do with the ratio of guns (after all, Canada has more guns per person than the US).

 

What it comes down to is that teenagers being drunk rarely leads to accidents, rape, death, misery (apart from the eventual hangover) and permanent injuries if the teenagers follow the...

 

Setsuko Guide to Eliminate Problems With Drunk Teenagers

 

1) Don't get access to a car. Here, you'll have to be 18 to drive, and the group of people who leads the statistics of accidents without competition are male drivers age 18-21 (and this is when they are sober!). I can only imagine how much worse it would be if males age 16-18 were allowed to drive

 

2) Don't get access to a gun. I'd fear the day I find a gun when I'm drunk. It's just plain stupid.

 

3) Don't get drunk at a remote, isolated place. Go to a pub/bar or other place where adults are present, and where there are always people around. The most dangerous (and stupid) parties to visit are parties in the woods, at the beach etc. It's just tempting fate. Some people gets aggressive when they're drunk, that's why being at a place with 7' bouncers is a good idea if you are not sure you can handle such a situation yourself.

 

4) Don't drink moonshine. Proper liqour almost never kill you, no matter how tiny you are and no matter how much you drink (because your puking reflexes kicks in and you'll eventually pass out before the alcohol can numb your medulla oblongata (which stops your heart pumping and your lungs breathing) or the brain stem (which makes you technically braindead). However, moonshine has a risk of including metanol, which can make you blind if you are lucky, and dead if you are less lucky.

 

5) Be taught how to handle alcohol by parents or other relatives at holidays where it is safe misscalculate without hurting yourself or being preyed upon by less kindly spirited persons (this is called a 'drinking culture', and exists in most european countries. Alcohol as an addition to life, not something reserved to drunks and trailer trash)

 

6) Don't mix alcohol with drugs. Your "let's fly away and get some Heineken" example never happens when people just drink beer. I should know, I've been around people drinking beer. A lot of beer, and a lot of times. The only superpowers alcohol makes you believe you have are social superpowers, and the worst they'll give you is a slap in the face from the opposite sex. Plus, most kinds of drugs has a higher risk of hurting you, temporally or permanently if they are complimented with alcohol. Because your liver is out of order, and the drugs can work unhindered. It's a bad deck to play with.

 

7) Don't go to clubs with bad DJs. Because it can lead to permanent brain trauma.

 

Seriously, if you follow these simple rules, you'll likely never see anything worse than someone who breaks a hand or passes out.

 

If there will ever be a decrease in teenage accidents connected with alcohol in the US, these points will have to be adressed.

 

EDIT: oh, and by the way, amids a forest of the worst beer available, a single really good beer has emerged from China. I only remember the look of the label, not the name. So I doubt I'll ever find it again.. :('

 

EDIT2: another factor is that when you are so drunk that you still can drive legally in the US, you can be sent to jail in Sweden. This really helps in keeping our trafic accidents low, and while drunken drivers are still way too common here, less people has to die.

 

EDIT3: And while drinking has little effect on a short term basis, alcoholism is not as nice. Keep clean and white a month now and then, and never get drunk 'because you use to', and you should be able to avoid this.

 

EDIT4: And while drugs like LSD and XTC effects how you think, alchohol mostly restrics your ability to think in new dimensions. This makes alcohol and studies a bad combo. Celebrate after the exams, not before. ;)

 

EDIT5: Oh, an my points doesn't apply to people who are pregnant, clinically depressed, has some latent psychosis, epileptic tendencies or heart problems. Then stay the hell away from that bottle!

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Dang Set, you are so intelligent! I am a college student and I'm learning quite a bit from your posts!!!! :)

 

Also, I totally agree with all your points. I noticed you didnt' say much about gun control but I will say one more thing and then I won't say anything unless i feel the need to.

 

Typically, when a tyrannical regime/dicator comes to power, personal liberties (freedom of worship, expression, speech, press- basically the bill of rights [ of the U.S.A.]) are the first which are infringed upon. As you know the Bill of Rights are actually the first ten ammendments of the U.S. Constitution. The second Bill of Rights is the right to bear arms. Which, like i said earlier, was due to the necesity of the local militias. The ability to control personal property is a big thing. Basically, the founding fathers of the United States, had two fears: 1) They feared a strong central government- so they created the Articles of Confederation. Which they perposely created to be weak, however it didn't suite it so they met again and revised the basis of our government. Point 2) They agreed that one man shouldn't hold all the power- so we created separate branches of government with each branch having the power to "veto" propositions and what not that the other proposes. In effect, we created a balance of power so that one portion of the government is not as strong as the other. (all in theory mind you).

 

And, when the new consititution was being written (primarily by James Madison) they recognized that the Kings of Europe (britain mainly) were infringing on the natural rights of people. They agreed that there should be a document written down to protect these basic natural rights. I believe Britain also had something like this, however I don't recall when it was formed or it's name.

 

Yes, it is more common for a person who has a gun to shoot a family member- sadly so, but I still stand on the fact that if I feel the need to purchase a firearm, it's comforting to know that I can just drive to the local Wal-Mart and buy a rifle, or hand-gun. I could find a sub-machine gun if I really wanted to. Also, if my country ever gets invaded, i'll be the first one at the above mentioned Wal-Mart buying rifles and ammunition! :)

 

I hope that I didn't repeat myself too much, and that everything I said was quite useful and relevant. Set, I really enjoy your imput, you have so much to say and a lot of knowledge about pretty much anything. I also think that when you post, you post it in a way that is not talking down to someone and your are very factual. If you could site some of your sources that'd be helpful. I don't question you at all, but it'd be nice to see where you are getting some of your information from. :thumbsup:

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.......Runs into topic.......

 

BEER!

:thmbup1:

 

......Runs out of topic again.........

 

PS:

Have fun, but don't drink too much, you should know your limits.

 

PPS: Don't drive if u had alcohol, even if it was just 1 beer, period!

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