Corpocus Posted January 10, 2003 Share Posted January 10, 2003 Ok I know that the 2700 and 2800 are out and they sappose to be 2.8..but I havent seen anything higher then a 2.17 wich is 2.1 I guess. And I know that over 2.1 is out..according to magazines.. So question is, is all 1800 a 1.5 and is all 2400 1.9?..If not is there a way to tell what speed each one is? And where can I go to get higher then 2.2 AMD cpu? And yes thank you for the info you gave..That did explain some thing I wondered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Can-able Posted January 10, 2003 Share Posted January 10, 2003 Yes all 1800 run at 1500 Ghz or round about So a 2800 will have a standered speed as well...Not shore what But it will be lower than the 2800 advertised...but like i say it's as good as a 2800 P4 I just found a 2700 at http://www.Ebuyer.com for about £300, but that is a UK web site. So looks like you can get them EDIT: Just looked at this a little more for you and well it depends on your Voltage as well, The higher the voltage the higher the CPU will actulley run at, But i think that is going in to the relms of overclocking Check this out : http://www.cpudatabase.com/CPUdb/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corpocus Posted January 10, 2003 Share Posted January 10, 2003 Ok thank you, that actualy helps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trooper21 Posted January 16, 2003 Share Posted January 16, 2003 I recently got a Dell 2350 Intell Pentium 4 512MB DDR SDR 30gb Ultra ATA/100 7200RPM Hard Drive Integrated Intel Extreme 3D Graphics video card I don't know what half the stuff means but is it good enough for this game? thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corpocus Posted January 16, 2003 Share Posted January 16, 2003 Trooper, that seems fine..altho, maybe an 80gb HD but 30 is fine too:) The vid card I don't know about..does it support T&L?.. Am I right that they said the vid card has to support T&L? Hey, If you got the money might as well throw in that cool ATI 9700 pro vid card:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jared Sinn Posted January 16, 2003 Share Posted January 16, 2003 Yeah, Trooper, I just bought an 8250 with pretty much the same specs, except I bought the Radeon 9700 graphics card. Not sure how much RAM that intergrated card you have carries, but it may be the weak link in the speed chain, so to speak. I love the 9700, and after testing it on several new games including Jedi Outcast, I'm very happy with spending the extra $300-400 (cant remember what came standard on the system i bought). JS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trooper21 Posted January 18, 2003 Share Posted January 18, 2003 How much is a pretty good Radeon or Geforce video card approxamately? thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thew Rydur Posted January 18, 2003 Share Posted January 18, 2003 I've seen Radeon 8500's and 9000's for less than $150. I'd check places like Best Buy or look on-line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deft Aklin Posted January 18, 2003 Share Posted January 18, 2003 Originally posted by Can-able Guys Also rember when you are buying Graphic Cards at the moment that non of them are DX9 compat ...Bar the Radon 9700 i think ..(Not shore) Anyway SWG is more than likley going to be runing on DX9 .... Buy the time it comes out. So i would say wait a couple of months now before you buy an new Graphic cards just for gaming becuse you could wait and get one that will make the most of DX9 ..... Cheers Can-able After reading the FAQ, I find this statement incorrect. They say it should be able to run on a low end comp at the time of release. That would be like 1-1.5 gig proc, 128 meg SDRAM, 20 gig HD and proabably a rather cheap vid card. That's just my opinion though, let me know how you all interpret this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trooper21 Posted January 20, 2003 Share Posted January 20, 2003 Will any of these cards run SWG at a good rate with good graphics? Radeon 7000 PCI Geforce4 MX 440 Cuadro 4 NVS 200 thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trooper21 Posted January 20, 2003 Share Posted January 20, 2003 Can anyone tell me some info. on these? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Can-able Posted January 20, 2003 Share Posted January 20, 2003 Originally posted by Darth_Sidious After reading the FAQ, I find this statement incorrect. They say it should be able to run on a low end comp at the time of release. That would be like 1-1.5 gig proc, 128 meg SDRAM, 20 gig HD and proabably a rather cheap vid card. That's just my opinion though, let me know how you all interpret this. Darth ....Dude!!! Can I ask why this is incorrect? The FAQ as no bearing on Graphics cards, What I am point out in this post is that if you are planning on upgrading you system to play on SWG or any games come to that. Then why buy a Graphics card that is not going to be top of the line. I.e. not going to be making the most of DX9. Dx9 will become stranded no matter how crap it is, and so are the features that a Dx9 compatible graphics card uses.....Like in NWN with Dx9 and the Radeon 9700 you can get reflection from water. Weather SWG runs Dx9 or not ...You are going to want a Graphics card making the most out of Dx9 or you will just be throwing good money after bad. All I am trying to say is if the game comes out in April you have time to wait for the industry to come up with HW that is better and can make better use of the software (Dx9) And I will say now if this game uses any code for Direct Play (Part of DX) Then you are going to want DX9 weather it can run Dx 7 ,8 what ever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deft Aklin Posted January 20, 2003 Share Posted January 20, 2003 I am not disagreeing with you, what I am saying is that the game will probably not be designed with DX9 in mind. They say the average low end PC should be able to run the game. The average PC won't have a DX9 compatible card at the time of SWGs release. Why would they set up to run only on DX9? IE. Sell the game for $60 and force everyone to buy $350 graphics cards. They wouldn't, so for those of us with little money to spare, a Radeon 9000 pro should do the job and can be found for around $100. Make sense? I do agree that a DX9 compatible card will probably improve the graphics immensely though, but I have kids to feed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Can-able Posted January 20, 2003 Share Posted January 20, 2003 I see your point dude I am just one of them people that like to buy top end becuse in this day and age what you get today is crap in 6 months if ya don't Grr... But some thing to think about Whats Top spec computer in Early 2000 ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ecks_Gecar Posted January 21, 2003 Author Share Posted January 21, 2003 System freeze will happen far less My Comp really doesn't freeze alot.Actualy I can't remember the last time it did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skate Boy Posted January 21, 2003 Share Posted January 21, 2003 *Wipes Forehead* Whew! I'm glad my computer can handle it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trooper21 Posted January 22, 2003 Share Posted January 22, 2003 I only have pci slots so would a radeon 7000 series be sufficient? thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trooper21 Posted January 23, 2003 Share Posted January 23, 2003 What is the best PCI card I could get? thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gontheboy Posted January 25, 2003 Share Posted January 25, 2003 I've never played mmorpgs before but I would have thought that the speed of the game depends a lot more on the internet connection rather that the actual PC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
setsuko Posted January 25, 2003 Share Posted January 25, 2003 Just a word of advise, guys: You are all bickering about processor speeds and graphics cards. But the unit that takes the biggest brunt of most MMORPGs is your Random-Access Memory, RAM for short. Take the new EQ for example, that recommends at least 500+ mb RAM. So no matter how sweet a GForce 4 chip you have, and no matter how fast a processor you have, you're fried if you have 128MB RAM. Heck, I'd say you're fried with 256 Mb if there's the slightest memory leak/sink. Some people even blame their ISP when their MMORPGs breaks down/lags, when it is actually a case of not having enough RAM to cope with the enourmous amounts of data that your computer has to keep track of. Good thing is, RAM is cheaper than graphics cards! 've never played mmorpgs before but I would have thought that the speed of the game depends a lot more on the internet connection rather that the actual PC. No-oh. Your internet connection IS important. It decides if your computer can receive all the data that the server is sending, or if there will be interruptions (a.k.a. lag). BUT it is not everything. If your computer doesn't have enough memory to conveniently swap that info between the cpu and your graphics card (especially if you have an older graphics card, with little or no memory of its own), then you are ****ed anyhow. So the "speed" (or rather, I'd say, the stability) of the game is decided by: A) Your internet connection. The most common bottleneck. It decides if enough data arrive from the server to your computer. B) Your available RAM, because it affects how efficiently your computer can handle the data from the server. and C), your processor and graphics card, which affects how fast the data turns from digital numbers to all that nifty text and graphics on your screen. And well, if any of these three units are below par, it brings the others down with it, ruining the gaming experience. You have to look to the greater whole... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jan Gaarni Posted January 25, 2003 Share Posted January 25, 2003 Set is right. Don't forget about RAM. Remember what I wrote about the speed difference between using RAM as memory and your harddrive as memory? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
setsuko Posted January 25, 2003 Share Posted January 25, 2003 Our work of enlightenment is not over, Gaarni, while there is still pockets of ignorance out there! But one day, one day... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
memphis Posted January 30, 2003 Share Posted January 30, 2003 tropper21 i think that the best one there would be the Geforce4 MX 440. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
memphis Posted January 30, 2003 Share Posted January 30, 2003 tropper21 i think that the best one there would be the Geforce4 MX 440. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thrackan Solo Posted January 30, 2003 Share Posted January 30, 2003 heeeheee i just got a new computer monday! Now i can have the req's for SWG! i will see you there P.S i have a Geforce 4 MX 440 too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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