*Darth Vega* Posted March 3, 2003 Share Posted March 3, 2003 They have totally screwed his character up. Heck, I find myself hoping he just dies so that he won't get in the way anymore. If it wasnt for this idiot, the entire NR-YV war would have ended when Centerpoint was fired. Then when the galaxy needed him most he abandoned his Jedi powers. He left people to die, refusing to help them only to use his powers again when people close to him were in trouble. Some Jedi. Jacen Solo is a disgrace to the Jedi. He should be executed immediatly. Your thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynk Former Posted March 3, 2003 Share Posted March 3, 2003 Everyone's being killed off anywayz, so it's just a matter of time ¬¬ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nova_wolf Posted March 3, 2003 Share Posted March 3, 2003 Originally posted by *Darth Vega* They have totally screwed his character up. Heck, I find myself hoping he just dies so that he won't get in the way anymore. If it wasnt for this idiot, the entire NR-YV war would have ended when Centerpoint was fired. Then when the galaxy needed him most he abandoned his Jedi powers. He left people to die, refusing to help them only to use his powers again when people close to him were in trouble. Some Jedi. Jacen Solo is a disgrace to the Jedi. He should be executed immediatly. Your thoughts? Dude - harsh. I like the way his character has gone, giving the GREAT USE OF THE FORCE debate embodiment. Deep and well thought, but still confusing, ambiguous and open to make what you want of it. He is the equivilant of a conscientious objector, which is no bad thing. It is a personailty type that would come up alot during such a conflict - hell, ANY conflict. The caamasi for instance - look what happened to Elgos Akla (sp?) Jacen is having to fight between waning to uphold the code of old, of peace, both normally and in negaotiations, but the need to defend himself and those he surrounds himself with - family, friends and the innocent. It's a tough position to try and hold under the circumstances, and is actully an interesting insight into what many soldiers, past and present, may think. I have a feeling he will die though, but not before showing the Yuzhan Vong, and indeed the Galactic Alliance, the ultimate truth of the Unifying Force.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swphreak Posted March 3, 2003 Share Posted March 3, 2003 You must not be up to Force Heritic or Traitor. Jacen evolves from his "sissy state." It would be a major mistake to kill him. Besides, he's the strongest Jedi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynk Former Posted March 3, 2003 Share Posted March 3, 2003 wow, hey i can't believe i didn't think of this before... i just realised... NJO is just a Star Wars version of Dragonball Z Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swphreak Posted March 3, 2003 Share Posted March 3, 2003 ....... Where did you come up with that idea? i think DBZ is stupid..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Darth Vega* Posted March 3, 2003 Author Share Posted March 3, 2003 I stopped reading all EU books in 1997 and I just started back with Vector Prime this past december. Right now I'm on "Edge of Victory I: Conquest" with only like 20 pages to go. Jacen is DEFINATLY my least favorite character. I so wanna see his ass die. It's gonna take nothing short of a miracle for me to start liking this lamer. Inversely my favorite character is Anakin Solo. He's awsome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swphreak Posted March 3, 2003 Share Posted March 3, 2003 well, dont pass judgement until you've read up to-date. His character is much better now. He's not much of a sissy in Traitor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Darth Vega* Posted March 3, 2003 Author Share Posted March 3, 2003 Jacen is responsible for the deaths of billions. He could have ended the war at the very start but he didnt. Because of him not only was the Hapan fleet destroyed, but entire worlds were conquered by the Yuuzhan Vong. None of that ever would have happened if Jacen had died before Centerpoint. He had a chance to end the war. He didnt take it. Entire worlds died because of him. It's gonna take a whole lot more than him not being a chicken**** anymore to get me to change my opinion of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swphreak Posted March 3, 2003 Share Posted March 3, 2003 and many people live because of what he will do (as you read on). Besides, it's your opinion of him, and I can't change it, and you can't change mine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pnut_Man Posted March 3, 2003 Share Posted March 3, 2003 I had to do a "Hero Project" on a character from a novel which underwent a symbolic journey and transformed. Being the obsessive star wars fan that I am, I picked Jacen's journey in NJO: Traitor. While doing my research I finally started realizing truly how much change occured to Jacen's character. Vergere's ways, though disliked by some, made Jacen into the warrior that he was capable of becoming. Before the events of Star by Star I thought Jacen had been a cocky dumb-ass who was only getting in the way of Anakin. Upon completing Traitor I was amazed at how much potential Jacen now had. I have been a little dissapointed at the fact that Jacen hasn't done anything with his "Vong Sense" since the end of Destiny's Way. Hopefully the authors will sort out this "Force and Vong thing" soon enough.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynk Former Posted March 3, 2003 Share Posted March 3, 2003 Originally posted by StarWarsPhreak i think DBZ is stupid..... What do you think NJO is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wassup Posted March 4, 2003 Share Posted March 4, 2003 Originally posted by *Darth Vega* Jacen is DEFINATLY my least favorite character. I so wanna see his ass die. It's gonna take nothing short of a miracle for me to start liking this lamer. Inversely my favorite character is Anakin Solo. He's awsome. Hehe I think you will hate Star by Star....as Anakin Solo dies But you really need to read Traitor, Enemy Lines, and Destiny's Way to further appreciate how Jacen has changed. Sure, he sucks in the beginning, but later on he becomes more likeable (unlike Jaina, I swear if she utters anymore of that "goddess" crap someone will die! ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boinga1 Posted March 4, 2003 Share Posted March 4, 2003 Originally posted by *Darth Vega* Jacen is responsible for the deaths of billions. He could have ended the war at the very start but he didnt. ended? hardly. That was one relatively small vong fleet, no important commanders or anything. ANd that was hardly the start. Anyway...just a thing...your fav character is dad but the "sissy" is still alive...something to thing about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wassup Posted March 4, 2003 Share Posted March 4, 2003 Theres spoiler tags boinga1...use them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boinga1 Posted March 6, 2003 Share Posted March 6, 2003 Originally posted by boinga1 ended? hardly. That was one relatively small vong fleet, no important commanders or anything. ANd that was hardly the start. Anyway...just a thing...your fav character is dad but the "sissy" is still alive...something to thing about. better? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wassup Posted March 6, 2003 Share Posted March 6, 2003 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swphreak Posted March 6, 2003 Share Posted March 6, 2003 actually, there arn't buttons for them, you have to type in [*spoiler*]. I didn't know that the first time I posted a spoiler...... Maybe they should add a button for it Anywho, Jacen is cool now IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SE_Vader_536 Posted March 15, 2003 Share Posted March 15, 2003 although ive only just gotten to know him. i think jacen is not worthy of death. jacen is obviously concerned about the issue of turning to the dark side to save the galaxy as any other normal person is. He is very strong in the force added to all of this. and the fact that he is responsible for many deaths. well consider this he also saved billions or more people... note: i only know of his acts in "star by star" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Darth Vega* Posted March 17, 2003 Author Share Posted March 17, 2003 I read Star By Star. Jacen is as big a ***** as ever. As for the events regarding Anakin on the mission to Myrkr. Well, let's just say I am through with the New Jedi Order. I quit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swphreak Posted March 17, 2003 Share Posted March 17, 2003 then I pity you........ The New Jedi Order is awesome and Jacen r00lz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Darth Vega* Posted March 17, 2003 Author Share Posted March 17, 2003 I tried reading beyond Star By Star but I did not enjoy it at all. In fact, it started to seem more like a chore than a fun activity, I didnt really care what happened to anyone and I could always think of other things I'd rather be doing. The NJO stopped being fun for me. So I quit. If that warrants pity, so be it. However, I feel I am better off now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SE_Vader_536 Posted March 17, 2003 Share Posted March 17, 2003 pity your thoughts are so screwed up. if you dont like star wars dont talk about it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darthfergie Posted March 18, 2003 Share Posted March 18, 2003 You are really missing out. Force Heritic develops Jacen into one of the best characters in NJO. Amazing really. NJO very good now. The first couple of books are a chore to read with several with pathetic plotlines involving Han Solo trying to come to grips with Chewie's death that are pulled off miserably. (ryns...feh) I just wish they would use the inner circle more effectively...and where is Wedge?!?!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swphreak Posted March 18, 2003 Share Posted March 18, 2003 the first books were focusing on the solos the most. There was no need for wedge. But they brought him in for the rebel stand books. and I like Ryn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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