Anti-Jedi mod

[gesch]

I am not sure if anyone else is even interested in this, but I have created (I think, I am still testing this) a mod that prevents you from becoming a Jedi. It is really a modification of the Darth Revan mod, that tells the game you have already become a Padawan, but never adds the Multi-class.

 

I built it to find out if you can finish the game without the Force powers. The one concession I made is to change the feats.2da file and allow all classes to use a lightsaber (it never made sense to me to restrict that, the Jedi may be the only ones that train with a lightsaber, but anyone who can figure out how to use a sword should be able to figure out how to swing a lightsaber IMHO).

 

Anyway, as I said I am still testing this out, but it appears to be working. If anyone is interested, post a reply and I will send it out to you if it works.

[Kaewan]

Why? A Good Star Wars = Jedi/Lightsaber

[Drakron]

Because some people are tired on end up playing a jedi and want something diferent.

 

I do like the idea of allowing anyone to use a lightsaber because Star Wars d20 does not restrict the its use to any class.

[Sunslayer]

That'b be sweet... Maybe try to add an extra class, like Bounty bunter (because they are the orthodox anti-Jedi), and give him lots of extra feat points to make up for Force points, and make it so you do that by haveing an extra dialog option when asked to become a Jedi, and say you hate Jedi and would never be one or something, then maybe even add extra feats in place of Force powers... like a Hunter's Flurry (for swords) and things like that which are elite feats to parallel Force powers and give advantages vs. Jedi. Also get a sweet Mandalorian lookiong armor set in place of a Jedi robe.

[Shimaon]

I'll take a wack at bounter hunter, seems do-able to me.

[Nequam]

Schweeeeeeet...

[Drakron]

Look people dont go overboard with making classes unless you really want a uber class.

 

My idea is the game would be playable even if the character was never a Jedi and the force system of this game leaves a lot to be desired.

 

Going around making a "Bountry Hunter" class does not mean its "BOBA FETT RULEZ" type of class and making a uber class.

 

Bounty Hunters are NOT and NEVER WILL BE Jedi killers, the mechanics behind a Bountry Hunter is someone that tracks down its target and captures it (NOT KILLING IT) since that is what Bounty Hunters are, not Super Commandos.

 

That means Bounty Hunters are a expecialized class and they dont work very well in SW:KotOR, at least not better that making a Starfighter Ace class.

[Kaewan]

Well, I can see the fun in Bounty Hunter. It would be funny and fun to pull out an outfit like Boba Fett.

 

I guess i would give it a try atleast. I still like Jedi/Lightsabers more

[tk102]

You can also edit your Jedi class into a non-Jedi class using a savegame editor, which is what I'm doing. And you can keep your lightsaber...

[Sunslayer]

ACtually, besides Dark Jedi, a bounty hunter is what kills Jedi, at least according to some gaming rules and also in Galactic Battlegrounds, the anti-Jedi is a Bounty Hunter. I'd say there's no reason to say we can't make a Bounty Hunter class and make it have advantages against Jedi (since he wouldn't BE a Jedi, which is what gives that advantage). I know in the REAL scheme of things Bounty bunters do just track and capture people for pay, and most wouldn't stand up to a Jedi, but this is strecthing it a tiny bit to fit the game. Things in the game are already stretched, as with in any game, so why not?

[tk102]

Absolutely Sunslayer. A bounty hunter, as a full-fledged class, would be a sweet mod and one I'd download for sure. If someone's working on a developing a new class, I hope they're working on a bounty hunter!

[Nequam]

Hey, as long as it's fun (and balanced thoughtfully), I say anything's fair game!

[Crunchy]

Well, even though i started likeing SW just for the jedi, i could see myself a BH, maybe get recruited by Calo Nord, id play it

[Sunslayer]

That'd be cool to make Mission be a Bounty Hunter, too, with Zaalbar, replace Juhani with a Rogue Mandalorian maybe, who who have to send to apologize to the Jedi, maybe change Carth to something else, make Canderous the same, recruit Calo instead of Jolee, perhaps, and maybe make it so somehow you can recruit a Trandoshan off Yavin or something...

[Drakron]

No.

 

A Bounty Hunter is someone that tracks someone down and captures him, just like bounty hunters do (we still have bounty hunters).

 

A bounty hunter is not a "anti-Jedi".

 

In Star Wars the jedi order co-existed with the Republic for millenia and so there was never any reason to hunt jedi since the people that sould employ bounty Hunters would be the autorities and criminal elements with would have no reason to go around after jedi and with the rise of the Empire, Vader (and a few selected operatives) was the one that hunted down the Jedi.

 

This idea of Bounty Hunters hunting jedi is absurd, a bounty hunter can capture a force user class as long he is smart enough to pull it off since there are many ways to do it but the changes a bounty would be put on a force user would be rather small and certainly the class would not be built to be a "jedi killer class" since its prime targe most of the times would be non force users.

 

I am not going to stop people of building uber classes but I do point out that using the Bounty Hunter as a excuse for a uber class is just that, a excuse.

[Sunslayer]

Okay... they CAN hunt Jedi, and some are formidibale against them (Durge, Jango Fett, Boba Fett). So, although normally in Star wars you don't see Bounty Hunters trying to kill Jeid constantly, I think it'd be nice to make a class that isn't Jedi but is anti-Jedi, and call it Bounty Hunter, although it isn't necessarily aimed at being anti-Jedi, just being non Jedi with advantages against Jedi, so they don't get creamed every time the player encounters Dark Jedi. OR we could say that somehow canon says Bounty Hunters can't take on Jedi (or Dark Jedi) and have no advantages or chance against them, and thus the mod would be totally pointless because you would have trouble fighting Force users. I'm not saying you'rw wrong that Jedi > Bounty Hunters by far, just that it's fine to let them be the class that doesn't use the Force and has anti-Jedi advantages.

 

And also, no matter what purpose our modern Bounty Hunter serves, the ones in Star Wars can take a bounty that's asking for someone dead, no matter what you say. They don't capture people, they do what the contract says: capture, kill, rescue, whatever. Bounty Hunter is perfectly fitting, and also the best name for a class that would be non-Jedi but good against Jedi. You can't really argue this. And also, Bounty Hunters played a part in exterminating Jedi, during the Clone Wars and in the early days of the New Order. Look up your facts instead of arguing off of an ideal you have.

[Drakron]

"Durge, Jango Fett, Boba Fett."

 

Sorry but Durge was more of a race thing, besides he lost twice when he faced Obi.

 

Jango draw against Obi (and he run away)i, killed a Jedi idiot on, if not mistaken, a Indiana Jones cameo scene and had his head chop off by Mace.

 

Boba lost against a blind man with a stick.

 

People idiolize the Fetts too much for my taste, the fact EU continue to support the Boba fetish does not make things better.

 

Sorry but a soldier can beat a Jedi or a Sith with the right tools, lightsabers cannot defect granades, flame throwers and slug throwers and those weapons are quite effective against anyone with a lightsaber and in SWKotOR shields also absorve lightsaber damage.

 

In fact I remenber a topic in Wizards forums about how a soldier would beat a Jedi and this is about Star Wars d20 were the force system is subtancial diferent that in SWKotOR (its skill based and feeds off vitality).

 

Again I will not stop anyone from making a Uber class but I will look at any class in the point of class balance.

[Sunslayer]

Nonetheless, there's no reason we can't make Bounty Hunter be a non-Force class, and add to it extras that can give advantages against the Force, since they won't be using it. I see your points, and somewhat agree, but overall it just makes sense to give a new class without Force powers something to make up for it.

[gesch]

Clearly I mis-leabel the thread title....No intention of starting a religious war. CHILL GUYS!

 

All I did was prevent a non-jedi main character (a scoundrel in my case) from being trained as a jedi, but did allow him to use a lightsaber. So far I have completed Taris, Dantooine, and Kashyyk with that character. The game is a little more challenging without the force powers (of course I have been taking one Jedi along as backup), but no significantly so.

 

My mod has nothing to do with bounty hunters (BTW the character you are describing is more of a mercenary than a bounty hunter), killing Jedi, or uber characters. I simply want to see if I can complete the game with a non-Jedi main character.