Guest Rogue15 Posted April 20, 2001 Posted April 20, 2001 matter can only be created or destroyed by God.
Guest Redwing Posted April 20, 2001 Posted April 20, 2001 As for the water falling from the firmament, that caused the dinosaur's extinction as it ended the earth-wide tropical environment, and mammals were better able to adapt... ------------------ At last we will reveal ourselves to the Jedi. At last we will have revenge.
Guest Redwing Posted April 20, 2001 Posted April 20, 2001 causing a temporary Ice age in northern lands, killing off dinosaurs and causing mammals to adapt to the modern Arctic and cold-weather versions... ------------------ At last we will reveal ourselves to the Jedi. At last we will have revenge.
Guest Imladil Posted April 20, 2001 Posted April 20, 2001 Water can be used as a metaphor for the subconscious mind. When we learn to still its agitation, ripples and resulting distortions, we can see all the way to the bottom. Holding the water still is the hard part.
Guest rebel alliance Posted April 21, 2001 Posted April 21, 2001 we are still talking about water right? hey, what does zen mean anyways
Grand_Admiral_Ice Posted April 21, 2001 Posted April 21, 2001 It's a japanese word for something, I forgot. ------------------ May the Force screw you in everything you do except sex or should you get screwed? Stop you're confusing me.
Guest Imladil Posted April 22, 2001 Posted April 22, 2001 Zen is a Japanese form of meditation. The student reflects upon a koan or 'riddle.' The koan is a riddle that has no answer which is fully definable with words; contemplation of these, which are intended to point to infinity, can lead one to enlightenment. a well-known such koan is 'what is the sound of one hand clapping?' I have modified the approach a bit for our purposes here. The koans I (usually) come up with do point to the infinite, but in such a way that discussion is beneficial. Water as a metaphor for the subconcious is mentioned in Zen Buddhist philosophy. The koan effectively transfixes the water...and allows the meditator to see all the way to the bottom. Curiously, in the Jewish yoga-like meditational system of kabbalah, water is associated with Yesod, the 'sphere' of consciousness where the subconscious resides. *(Looks at the distance between Japan and Israel on a map.)* Hmmm...
Guest Redwing Posted April 23, 2001 Posted April 23, 2001 Ummm ya, me too ------------------ At last we will reveal ourselves to the Jedi. At last we will have revenge.
Guest Imladil Posted April 23, 2001 Posted April 23, 2001 Anyway. That's zen. For today, I have this koan for contemplation: 'Is it dark in the center of the sun?'
Guest rebel alliance Posted April 24, 2001 Posted April 24, 2001 yep. there is no matter for the suns light or temperature to reflect on. the particles are too tightly packed well, at leaset maybe
Guest Imladil Posted April 25, 2001 Posted April 25, 2001 In the center of the sun, there would be no shadows. Or would it be 'dark,' as it would be impossible for one to be there to perceive it? We come to a perennial philosophical discussion, one which is usually expressed with the question, 'If a tree falls in a forest, and no one is there to hear it, does it make a sound?' But sound is not light. Sound is a vibrational phenomenon, while light is a thing that is both a particle and a wave...essentially, you couldn't fill a box with sound, but you might be able to fill it with light. What, then, is darkness?
Guest flamin_tie Posted April 26, 2001 Posted April 26, 2001 i am darkness...and this darkness is mighty confused by your jibba-jabba....if someone dont stop this nonsense, im gonna beat you into cream cheese! sparse.org/~mrt T-ifies any web page, sucka!
Guest Imladil Posted April 26, 2001 Posted April 26, 2001 ...It occurs to me that there aren't many people who come to this forum. Is it possible for me to move this to the Pilot's Lounge? How do I do that? ------------------ 'So, how do you like my new screaming Gungan hood ornament?'
Grand_Admiral_Ice Posted April 27, 2001 Posted April 27, 2001 Quit your jibba-jabba. I pity the fool who don't beat the crap outta flamin_tie ------------------ May the Force screw you in everything you do except sex or should you get screwed? Stop you're confusing me.
Guest flamin_tie Posted April 29, 2001 Posted April 29, 2001 Hey! Murdock, is this your chicken? You bettah not mess with my van, foo! Iain't afraid of flying, and I ain't afraid of no monkeys either. sparse.org/~mrt
Guest Imladil Posted April 29, 2001 Posted April 29, 2001 Pregnant chickens with you and the seahorse that bestowed you upon our shores as the next Donny Osmond! Is this the bus to the hospital?
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