Guest Muuurgh Posted October 3, 2001 Share Posted October 3, 2001 Ok, I've played the demo, single player and multiplayer (as the rebels) and I can say I'm very disappointed with a lot of things. 1) Air Units. They move too slow, and are so unpowerful it's not funny. And what the hell is with standing right on top of a unit and throwing green stuff at them??? What's going on with that. Air units main ability is speed. They should be like Harriers from RA2. That is how air power should be. Fast and hit and run. 2) Sea units. I don't know about anybody else, but what do sea units have to do with Star Wars? WHen you've got anti-gravity technology, what's the point of having ships? I saw some people get excited about this, but I mean really. Come on people, what on earth is the point of a ship to most races? Sure they need some to take down the gungans, but surely not as much as they do. Sea units just do not fit in with my idea of Star Wars, and are just wrong. 3) Holocrons. How does garrisoning these give you nova crystals? 4) I wasn't terribly impressed with the graphics either. Things just seemed not clear enough. 5) Shields. In everything I've ever read about shields, if they get hit their circumference decreases. In this game everything inside a shield gets a mini shield. All that said and done, I'm going to play the demo more and see what I do enjoy about it. I really want to like it, but I'm finding it hard. Just too many things different in it to how I've always thought of Star Wars. Specifically ships. If the editor is powerful enough (ie, can change unit stats and stuff like that) then I may buy the game just to create a version of how I'd like to play the game. But at the moment I probably won't enjoy it. And that's why I'm disappointed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Olsmo Lahun Posted October 3, 2001 Share Posted October 3, 2001 i dont like how singel player is So boring:mad: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest xwing guy Posted October 3, 2001 Share Posted October 3, 2001 Let me inform you that the demo is a older version of GB so the real game will have a lot better, more polished look to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Muuurgh Posted October 3, 2001 Share Posted October 3, 2001 Thanks for that Xwing guy, I hope you're right. In the 15 minutes since I posted that, I now have a burning desire to play the demo again. Must play again..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EndSub Posted October 3, 2001 Share Posted October 3, 2001 Originally posted by darth mike i dont like how singel player is So boring:mad: yeah they really choose a bad SP mission to represent the game......and i think that has turned off alot of people..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Drakeon Posted October 3, 2001 Share Posted October 3, 2001 I agree. Although multiplayer is quite fun.. hehehe I cant wait to be the trade federation and gungans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Yossarian Posted October 3, 2001 Share Posted October 3, 2001 Originally posted by xwing guy Let me inform you that the demo is a older version of GB so the real game will have a lot better, more polished look to it. I keep seeing this, and I'm sorry to tell you that it's a load of crap. A demo that comes out a month before the final game has almost EXACTLY final graphics and animation. I get the feeling that a lot of people are getting their hopes up for some miracle solution when they get the retail game and they're going to be quite disappointed. This is it folks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Darth_Venage Posted October 3, 2001 Share Posted October 3, 2001 Originally posted by Yossarian I keep seeing this, and I'm sorry to tell you that it's a load of crap. A demo that comes out a month before the final game has almost EXACTLY final graphics and animation. I get the feeling that a lot of people are getting their hopes up for some miracle solution when they get the retail game and they're going to be quite disappointed. This is it folks. sorry, but it is possible. By my last count, I've played 3 demos that were a month or less away from final release date, and the graphics in final version were WAY better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Drakeon Posted October 3, 2001 Share Posted October 3, 2001 I don't see why everyone hates the graphics... if you ask me there quite nice.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Yossarian Posted October 3, 2001 Share Posted October 3, 2001 Originally posted by Darth_Venage sorry, but it is possible. By my last count, I've played 3 demos that were a month or less away from final release date, and the graphics in final version were WAY better. Name them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest crazy_dog Posted October 3, 2001 Share Posted October 3, 2001 Stop whining. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tuNg_TWiSTA Posted October 3, 2001 Share Posted October 3, 2001 ok... well, if you guys have played the age of kings games, and then gone and played this demo, you will realize it is total S H I T. it is about the most unbalanced game I've seen. air craft dont do enough damage, the artillery sucks ass, too slow, and doesn't do ANY real damage unless REALLY massed, which shouldn't be true. They should be like the Trebs in AoK. I mean, come on...make a damn decent game here...atleast make things balanced.. another example, the anti-air turrets in the game...those are just godlike...if you have a couple of those built in your base, you are set, no air raids will happen on you. the ywing/bomber should doo massive amounts of damage, not just tiny **** that doesn't make any difference... I mean seriously, put some effort into this game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Lord Tirion Posted October 3, 2001 Share Posted October 3, 2001 I think before any of us can make truly educated opinions about this game, we will have to wait until the final version. Demos are like 10% of a final game. Demos are not made for customers to judge whether or not to buy it, but to give them a taste of it and give them game play experience. If you want to see if you want to buy it, thats when you go to the store and look at it being played on a computer or rent it (They do that by me, dunno if they do that everywhere). I like the game very much. There are not exactly a lot of games out there that are decent anymore. Online games are dying whether we know it or not. MMOGs are online gaming's last gasp of air. Console games are taking back over and some are going to have the ability to host games that are MMOGs. So comparing SWGB with most other games out there, I am satisfied with it so far. My 2 credits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tuNg_TWiSTA Posted October 3, 2001 Share Posted October 3, 2001 bah, first off, console games are not taking over..... computer based things will always be in the top. the X-Box may look so sweet now, but in a year, what? It is still the orginal peice of hardware you bought with the X-Box, but in a year, I can have my 1.4 t-bird prolly close to 3ghz clock speed. Computer based things will always be the top since they can be upgraded and advanced, while consoles are nice and flashy the first 6 months or so that they are out, then they start to fizzle off. Another thing, the game is close to final product with what we received in the demo. I read a post on it a few minutes ago about how this is the version that they are sending to quality insurence testings.... They took a great game (Age of Kings/The Conquerers) and totally made it suck. Even the graphics don't look like Age of Kings does... I myself am VERY disappointed. The graphics/sound are enough to turn one away, let alone the total unbalance in the game that was seen in the demo version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Lord Tirion Posted October 3, 2001 Share Posted October 3, 2001 You know, they said the same thing about this thing called cds taking over for tapes and everybody laughed. They said the same thing about dvd players taking over for VCRs and everybody laughed. Now they say the samething about consoles being the number one source of gaming with multiple players over PCS and everybody is laughing.... You will see. X-Box is just the first of the many consoles to come out in the future that will make computers obsolete for playing multiplayer games. And it was not too long ago on Tech TV they had a nice little show just on this saying how in the very near future console gaming is going to dominate the mulitplayer genre with the capablities to connect to hundreds, if not thousands of gamers around the world. Who is going to spend 700+ on a computer to play games when you can get consoles for 300+? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EndSub Posted October 3, 2001 Share Posted October 3, 2001 consoles have already taken over......... the console market is 10* bigger than the PC market..... yes PS2's suck......that is the void....that is why us PC people have been looking down on consoles for the last year.......there biggest mistake was making it to hard to program for.....and they have sufferd for it....... [1 year into the future] games on X-box pretty much equivalent (purely graphics wise....) to games on PC......[/1 year into the future] sorry my friend, but developers don't care how powerfull your PC is.....there looking at the mainstream......and sure, the mainstream IS catching up.....but it isn't there yet.....plus they don't have to worry about support for ANY OTHER system...they know EXACTLY what is going to happen......thats why games like MGS on PS looked so good on such poor hardware...... plus Microsoft is buying up all the great developers to come work on the big black box...... and lets not go into price.....the fact that the X-box is pretty much the same price as a ge-force 3.....and will last for atleast 3 years.......your going to have to upgrade twice in that time......and not just a video card.......proberly about $2000 for each.....so thats $4000 + what you have now ($3000...) so thats about $7000 vs Microsofts $1000.....but if you want to buy it straight off the bat you MAY (i'm not 100%....so don't shoot me if i am wrong......) have to buy a game-console-controller pack....which i am pretty sure was $1500.... $7000 vs $1500 (Note: I live in New Zealand, so $ values are diffrent.....our buying power is roughly the same and $ value is about half ) and you don't have to worry about driver updates, hardware support, or slow-downs.....just plug it in.... no PC games are not going to just disapear.....but they are going to slowly fade away.......developers are going to start going to consoles over PC's....its easier and there going to get more money out of it......and that means less games for us......its the beggining of the end.....embrace the next gen consoles or be left out in the cold....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Arkon Posted October 3, 2001 Share Posted October 3, 2001 I also think that it will be difficult to improve graphics and sounds in if little time, because the final play is already in manufacture. It is a pity which it does not exceed AOK, it is a great disappointment Dark_Arkon_fr Link ( french site of SWB, but you can translate ): http://www.strategie-siths.fr.fm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tuNg_TWiSTA Posted October 3, 2001 Share Posted October 3, 2001 wow, stupidity runs over all... this same thing was talked about OVER A YEAR ago... microsoft doens't have all the developers, as all the main pc developers have already stated that they are going to focus on the PC as their main source, as the console is a secondary thing. All the main developers have all stated that yes, they will develop things for the XBOX, but their main focus, has, and always will be the PC. And no, it doesn't cost me 7000 to upgrade my computer twice (cut that in half as you said, so 3500...) considering I can build a brand new computer that is about the fastest on the market for roughly 800, with a GForce 3... go figure. PC will not be beaten out by the console... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EndSub Posted October 3, 2001 Share Posted October 3, 2001 Ok your right, $3000 ($1500US) is proberly an over estimate to upgrade......but there are people out there who don't know what the diffrence is between PCI and AGP and don't upgrade there PC's......but since your proberly not one of them......... gateway computers.....there one of the biggest companies.......the "ultimate power" system is proberly abit "ultimate", so i check the cutting edge one...... i then take off the monitor price (i don't charge you for the TV.....) then the 2*800 for new video card and ram.....then 210 for the new motherboard (*3 years is a long time.....) then 121 for a new sound card (see: *) then 44 for more ram (isn't it great how ram is so cheap at the moment?) $1699 + ($800 *2) + 210 + 121 + 44 = $3674 thats the grand total......about $1500 more than an X-box will cost with games........so basically after 3 years you could either PC)Upgrade your PC again... Console)Buy the X-Box 2......which will again, be ahead of PC (graphics wise i am talking about here....pure graphics....) Console vs PC will rage on for ever......when people were calling the death of PC with PS2, I for one was telling them to STFU........but for now i am on the console side of the fence.......and will stay there 'till i see due reason to hop again...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Emp_Palpatine Posted October 3, 2001 Share Posted October 3, 2001 I JUST WANT ROGUE SQUADRON GAMECUBE!!! Anywayz i think the graphics is not the main point because lucasarts already stated they are focusing on the gameplay and storyline, and its usually that that get the SW Fans happy... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Muuurgh Posted October 3, 2001 Share Posted October 3, 2001 The PC will remain the ultimate in multi-player gaming for a while yet. Until you get more functunality out of console, there's no way you can get the same gaming experience as you can get with a PC. Of course, I don't know anything about the X-Box. And people will continue to laugh at consoles for a while. Why buy a console to play multiplayer games when you can do it on your work station that can do everything else you need a computer for? You're forgetting that point when thinking what people will buy. When you can get local dial-up places for console games (like the zone) then they'll take over. Till then, no. Of course, 3 years in computing is a life-time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest McGeeza Posted October 3, 2001 Share Posted October 3, 2001 OK. Picture this scenario. Star Wars: Galaxies is an exclusive XBOX title. Discuss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest NamelessOne Posted October 3, 2001 Share Posted October 3, 2001 Originally posted by Yossarian I get the feeling that a lot of people are getting their hopes up for some miracle solution when they get the retail game and they're going to be quite disappointed. Well said. Everybody is hyped up just because we finally have a Star Wars RTS. This is the game that has been on everybodys minds since the inception of the RTS genre and nobody wants to be disappointed. Sad thing is, the game will not be able to hide behind a Star Wars license. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest NamelessOne Posted October 3, 2001 Share Posted October 3, 2001 Originally posted by crazy_dog Stop whining. Stop Whining!! You must be crazy, this is the type of game thats been on every SW fans waiting list for years and theyre going to come out with an expansion for another game and expect us to buy it. Of course some of us are going to be *****ing about it. It's an insult that they expect us all to pay 50 bucks for a game thats is nothing more than an expansion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Drakeon Posted October 3, 2001 Share Posted October 3, 2001 First.. if you want X-box to succeed, it might need some japanese support to do that.. as of which it doesnt have much at the moment.. and will cost more money then the other 2 consoles.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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