Guest Yossarian Posted October 9, 2001 Share Posted October 9, 2001 Just like in Starcraft, Age of Kings, and any other RTS you wanna name, multiplayer tactics will eventually come down to rushing to win. In AoK the only way to really beat a feudal rush is to do one yourself, better. I expect this game to be the same way. Oh yeah the comment about not rushing someone who has 2 fortresses cracked me up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jigga Posted October 9, 2001 Share Posted October 9, 2001 I agree that troppers and light mechs should not be able to take out buildings that easy, think about it how much damage can a guy with a blaster do to a building except ruin the paint job. But the air and ground units are to weak they die to easily. They said they wanted to capture the large scale battles from the movies how can you captue that when the troops and planes are all distroyed in less than 2 mins. The units units should last abit longer so atleast you get abattle to watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Muuurgh Posted October 9, 2001 Share Posted October 9, 2001 I think it'll be a great game. I just have my reservations about how star warsey it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Maul403 Posted October 9, 2001 Share Posted October 9, 2001 this game is meant to be eneded in tech 4...i mean thats when you get your hard hitting building destroyers...i think buildings are fine the way they are...and the AT-AT..wow...read this from gamespy: "Assault mechs are AT-AT class armored units--they have enormous numbers of hit points, do major damage, and sport superheavy armor. In comparison, the regular stormtrooper has 30 hit points, does five damage, and has one armor for ranged attacks, while the AT-AT has 275 hit points, does 18 damage, and has nine armor to ranged attacks. The AT-AT can be further upgraded to heavy status to get more hit points and greater damage potential. Moreover, there are more tech upgrades for mechs, thus making them even better." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Influenza Posted October 9, 2001 Share Posted October 9, 2001 Whadya mean, "meant" to be ended in Tech Level 4? If that were true, there wouldn't be any tech levels. Or you wouldn't be able to attack until both players reached that level. Rushing is an inevitable part of any strategy game. So learn to live with it. I mean, how realistic would it be if you had to say "Ok, has it been enough time yet? Can I attack now?" to your opponent every game? What if the United States said, "Ok Afghanistan, we're going to attack in about three years, after you've had time to build up your forces." Come on, little boys, grow up and learn to play in the big leagues. Because big leaguers hit hard, they hit fast, and they don't give you any room for error. The best RTS players use all tactics, including rushing/raiding, to their maximum effect. If you want to be considered among the best RTS players, you'll have to do the same Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest porkins14 Posted October 9, 2001 Share Posted October 9, 2001 I agree with Darthfergie. If you are decent at the game you can't be rushed. People need to stop complaining about rushing as it is a strategy just like anything else is, and it can be stopped easily. The people that complain about rushing are the same guys who play games and dont allow rush. Hey guys, thats why you suck vs. the rus, because you never practice against it. You need to figure out ways to stop it instead of outlawing it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Maul403 Posted October 9, 2001 Share Posted October 9, 2001 What if the United States said, "Ok Afghanistan, we're going to attack in about three years, after you've had time to build up your forces." SWGB is a game...what the crap does the United States and Afghanastan have to do with GB? stupid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest porkins14 Posted October 9, 2001 Share Posted October 9, 2001 Dont change the subject Maul, you understand his point, and it is a good one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Influenza Posted October 9, 2001 Share Posted October 9, 2001 Thanks for coverin' me, Porkins And I'm glad some people realize the virtues and downfalls of rushing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Darth_Venage Posted October 9, 2001 Share Posted October 9, 2001 hmm, I'm on both sides of the fight here. Yeah, some say buidlings too strong, but thats what pummels and blaster cannons(trebuchets) are for. Yes, there is going to be rushes, I already have several good rush strats. The only complaint i have is that the air units ARE too weak. There are 5 different counters to air units: AA turrets, AA Hvy Weapons, AA troopers, AA boats, and fortresses. All of those do at least 10 damage to air(most do in the 20 25 range) while air units have 25-50 HP and do 5-7 attack. Of course, if your opponent doesnt have AA, then you can jack them, but they can quickly build an AA trooper and bam! there goes your air. But, of course, I'll wait and see what you guys have to say about this before i place my opinions in concrete and stick to them:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest porkins14 Posted October 9, 2001 Share Posted October 9, 2001 Darth, you are 100% correct. If you send in air units only, you will get lit up by anti air facilities. Which is why this game has artillery, trebs, and pummels, to take out those facilities. If you build a one dimensional army with just air, Sure, you are going to get crushed. However if you build units to take down those facilities, and then charge in shielded y-wings (and you have good unit control, keeping them in the right places), you wil be very effective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JEDI_MASTA Posted October 9, 2001 Share Posted October 9, 2001 Originally posted by Luke Skywalker I just asked a mod making community to look at GB they said theyd look at it and start designing mods! dude sorry to burst your bubble but to the best of my knowledge nobody has ever cracked tha AOK engine and there the same Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest T.I.E Posted October 9, 2001 Share Posted October 9, 2001 To me a rush is just building one type of unit and sending wave after wave into the enemy base unitl overrun. Its a great tactic dont get me wrong but most people like to have a longer game than be obliterated before tech 2 or 3. And yes if a person is ready then a rush is alittle tougher to use, most people just have to expect a rush. I dont even bother playing other people as they generally are not worth playing with. I enjoy having a nice fun game as my time, which there is little to play more than one game is precious. I used to play online alot but the people who betray you and team with the other side so its like 3 versus you are everywhere. And then there are the ones who do not talk to you when you write them messages, like its the real deal where stormtroopers are right down the block and they have to be quiet or something. Or how about the people who quit when their friend gets booted or logged off? I hate that, suddenly you are all alone in the game room because the host cancelled the session......mostly a waste of time. Now dont get me wrong I have played with some really great people who have taught me alot about gaming during my many years of experience. Alot of you guys posting in the forum would be alot of fun to play with. I found out a while back playing SW:Alliance that joining a clan is the best fun, but so far no one is openly recruiting for SWBG. Hopefully when the full game is released we can all kill each other like it was meant to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Maul403 Posted October 10, 2001 Share Posted October 10, 2001 amen again Dont change the subject Maul, you understand his point, and it is a good one how can i be changing the subject if im quoting something he exactly said? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Influenza Posted October 10, 2001 Share Posted October 10, 2001 You understood my point, Maul. Yet rather than address it, you decided to attempt to discredit my argument, first by bringing up something that has utterly no relevance to the argument ("what does the US...?") and second, by calling me "stupid." My argument is very relevant, yet you refuse to address it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest porkins14 Posted October 10, 2001 Share Posted October 10, 2001 Maul you also ripped on my post too. Saying "theres only about 10 threads like this", in your sarcastic zone. You are obviously a jackass and incapable of having a conversation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Maul403 Posted October 10, 2001 Share Posted October 10, 2001 hmm......well let me say this..im the kinda person that doesnt beat around the bush..ill tell you whats on my mind...good or bad..right or wrong...wheather u wanna hear it or not...unfortunately not many poeple are like that any more..i guess its sort of a southern thing but i am preticipating in this forum so i guess you better get used to it...oh yeah...im not a "little boy"..and personally i think i am holding a pretty good conversation right now...i am eagerly awaiting your response to finish the "conversation" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest T.I.E Posted October 12, 2001 Share Posted October 12, 2001 As for trebuchets, I dont care, a few well placed fast units makes them obsolete without protection. I was referring to the super weapons that eliminate whole base sections in one shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Darth_Nixon42 Posted October 13, 2001 Share Posted October 13, 2001 Definately, SC was a great game, but a well place nuke could simply @3$! you over. I fully agree with the treb statement, with the addition of air units, i belive that a once almost unstoppable treb army could be easily destroyed with carefull tacticts. And apart from a few, i wish everyone would stop bagging air units! you just need a brain to use them!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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