DaAan Posted March 18, 2002 Share Posted March 18, 2002 does anyonw know how the low end MX cards fare against other geforce cards in the range? currently im using a matrox g400 and am looking to upgd, cash is a problem hence the low end of the geforce 4 family. anyone got any advice (my price limit is 150 quid (UK pounds) max) are there any other cards i should consider (please no radeon comments) ive heard they have driver compatibility probs with some games thanx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digl Posted March 18, 2002 Share Posted March 18, 2002 check this thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XIII Posted March 18, 2002 Share Posted March 18, 2002 from different sources I heard something rather interesting: the Geforce IV MX chipset (codename: nvidia 17) is LESS than a GeForce III ti 500 (which is codename nvidia 20). The 'ordinary' GeForce IV will have the codename nvidia 25 if I recall correctly. This indicates that the MX IV will perform LESS than the GeForce III. The advange from the IV MX is of course the double amount of RAM on the card. There is another thing which might be intresting as well: GeForce III is uptimized for DirectX 8. The GeForce IV MX is NOT uptimized for 8 but only for 7. It is worth to investigate if you consider buying a IV. just for your info, Regards, XIII aka Archer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowen Posted March 18, 2002 Share Posted March 18, 2002 Yes, stay away from the MX cards. If your looking for something in that price range. Get an ATI Radeon 8500...it beats the GF3 Ti500. Now so you know....a GF3 is faster than any GF4 MX card! So the Radeon 8500 is just below a GF4 4200. If you can buy at least a GF4 4200 and if you want, get the GF4 4600 (pricey though) Check out the Radeon 8500 though...it's a good card! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinkpanther718 Posted March 18, 2002 Share Posted March 18, 2002 Thats not all true info there, let me correct that. There are the same amounts of RAM on both the cards. The Geforce4 MX cards both have 64 mb RAM, one SD and one has DDR. The clcok speeds on those chips are higher than the Geforce3s, however they are not recfcomended by most. They don't use the high quality NFinity engine that the GF3 uses. I was in your same situation, I am opting to buy a geforce3 ti200 for a bit more $$ than the geforce4 MX, but I'm told I will get much better results. Just for the record, both the geforce3 ti200 and ti500 have higher chipset names than either of the gf MX cards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowen Posted March 18, 2002 Share Posted March 18, 2002 That part is true...there are MX cards out there with 128 megs of ram but some of what they have less of are fewer memory controllers. For example....any GF4 4200 card and above have pretty much more of everything including only 2 memory controllers instead of 4 like the GF4 Ti series. The MX cards can have as much ram as any other card does though. They also have That translates directly into less frames per second for the MX cards. Again...I'm not saying they suck...they clearly don't but for that same price range, I'd get a Radeon 8500. Get a GF4 (non-MX) if you can afford it. If you don't believe me just look at this review compared to the other GF4 cards. http://www.extremetech.com/article/0,3396,s=1017&a=24134&app=1&ap=2,00.asp This excerpt is taken from the above URL: Like the 460, the GeForce4 MX440 lacks a number of features found in the GeForce4 Ti series. Nvidia bestowed the Ti with four pixel pipelines and eight texturing units; the MX cards only boast half the number of each. They lack the dual vertex processing pipelines and the programmable pixel shading hardware--as such, the MX440 is not a fully DirectX 8 compliant part. Although the MX440 contains the Nvidia Shading Rasterizer from the GeForce2, it's a weak substitute for the advanced, programmable shaders in the GeForce4 Ti series (or even the GeForce3 Ti lineup). Chip Texture Fill Rate Triangles or Vertices per Second Core Clock Speed Memory Bandwidth Maximum Memory GeForce4 Ti 4600 2.4Gtexels/sec 45 Million/sec* 300MHz 10.4GB/Sec. 128MB GeForce4 Ti 4400 2.2Gtexels/sec 42 Million/sec* 275MHz 8.8GB/Sec. 128MB GeForce4 Ti 4200 2Gtexels/sec 38 Million/sec* 250MHz 8GB/sec 128MB GeForce4 MX 460 1.2Gtexels/sec 38 Million/sec 300MHz 8.8GB/Sec. 64MB GeForce4 MX 440 1.1Gtexels/sec 34 Million/sec 275MHz 6.4GB/Sec. 64MB GeForce4 MX 420 1Gtexels/sec 31 Million/sec 250MHz 2.7GB/Sec. 64MB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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