no cd-key thats why!!

[jedi-zero]

lol thats what happen when there is no security for pirates

everybody is returning the game and they still play it any tought ?

 

i think it suck

[Dark_One]

That's right but what are they gonna do about it?

[jarryjayo]

I am happy they didn't use the key system. I only wish they would not need the cd after doing a full install.

 

cd keys and copyright protection only works to stop fools, everyone who knows how to copy computer software knowns you can do a simple search on the net and find a place to download a pitch that will let you copy the software and run it with out keys and the cd. copyright protection only stop's some people some of the time from copying the software and often never the people who do it all the time, copy it in the first place.

 

It's the game buyers who are hurt by all of this. we buy this software and have to deal with leaving the dam disc in the computer. sometimes we get games that we can't even unlock, it happens, the game maker comes out with a product that has the wrong set of keys on it for you to play the game. A techsupport call is needed to unlock the software. this happen to JoWooD Productions Software.

 

I understand the need for copy-protection but I don't see the point of it if everycrack and wares group on the net has already got the game cracked online for download, It doesnt do any good at all and adds extra cost on top of the product we are all buying. think of it thats one more round of cappuccino raven computer people could have had and made the game a bit better.

 

If it doesn't stop people from copying the game then why should we have to deal with this copyprotection too even if we never even copy the dam thing. as I said the only thing copy protection seems to hurt is the game buyer. I wish computer companys would see the light and be less greedy and make the product less costy to the user and no one would get hurt. you would not make as much money but your product would not be stolen.

[Kuroshi]

Originally posted by jarryjayo

If it doesn't stop people from copying the game then why should we have to deal with this copyprotection too even if we never even copy the dam thing. as I said the only thing copy protection seems to hurt is the game buyer. I wish computer companys would see the light and be less greedy and make the product less costy to the user and no one would get hurt. you would not make as much money but your product would not be stolen.

 

The fact is, copy protection does stop some people from copying the game. Generally the guys that know how top copy cds and have the hardware to do it, but aren't aware of the warez culture, and others. I think that if I buy a game, I can crack it however I want, and I do. Easy stuff.

 

Also, on lower prices, pirates wouldn't care. They'd steal a game that was free, if they could. As for being less greedy, if I said you could mow my lawn for $5 or $10,000, which would you pick? Thought so.

[grellin]

It's a vicious circle... prices go up due to piracy, but piracy increases due to higher prices. I wonder what would happen if they just lowered game prices? Maybe they would sell a whole lot more copies... maybe not though who knows.

 

Piracy is also slowly digging a grave for those of us that prefer the PC as our game system... Console profits are generally much higher in part due to the fact that it's extremely hard to pirate that kind of software.

[jarryjayo]

I think your wrong, dvd's are a good point, in the past before we had dvd there was laser discs, laser discs had no copy protection what so ever, you could rent them and copy them to vhs or super VHS if you had one, but the problem was because they where so easy to copy you could rent them rather then buy them, a laser movie would cost you 50 to 100 dollars a movie. you got a lot of extras but the price of the product make laser discs a thing of the past in the long run. some of my laser discs cost over 200 dollars a movie. paid 350 canadian for starwars box set in widescreen, laser discs had it all before dvd.

 

When studios came out with dvd's they used a better pricing system 20 dollars a movie, dvdr's are 20-30 dollars a disc here in canada so there is no reason to copy a dvd unless you want it on a cheaper format like video cd ro vhs and thats crappy.

 

So you can see that as long as dvd'r and dvdrw's are around 20 dollars a disc your never going to copy a dvd movie, and remember renting is like 5 dollars a movie, copying a dvd is as easy as 123, it's not worth it when you can get the real thing for about the same money and safe your self some time, mind you dvd's are copyed and posted on the net but still my case in point is if you make a product at a far price most people are not going to steal it even if they had a dvd burner in there computer.

 

another good example is music cd's, when cd's first hit the market we all where told by record company's that this new product is going to get easyer to make and a lot cheaper in price and the best part is it will last for ever. we all know that's bs now as most cd's still cost about the same price and they don't last for ever. now record companys are losing money all to the thanks of there own in·competence a technology came around as we all know that lets people burn copys of music, this could have been stoped if record companys would have made the price of cd's a lot less, and quit there dam price fixing and the best part is they would have still made money.

 

here is a fact record companys don't need to sell records, you heard me right, they don't, if they wanted to they could use a ad plan that would give people music for free. MP3.com was doing it. giving away cd's for free and the way they did it was using advertisement inside the cd's packaging that would pay for the cost of the cd, people could get music for free if record companys did the same thing, and they don't for one reason greed and in the end that greed will kill them.

 

You know most musician's dont' make money selling records, they make nothing, it's touring that pays the big bucks. look at the rocking stones, most of there money is made by selling tshirts and other collectable items. ticket money is the man reason they still tour.

[SplitSoul]

Originally posted by grellin

Console profits are generally much higher in part due to the fact that it's extremely hard to pirate that kind of software.

Uh, no. They've even figured out how to do it with the GameCube, which uses that tiny CD media. Or was that X-Box? I don't recall. I loathe consoles with every fibre of my being.

[jarryjayo]

you can copy console game just type xbox or gamecube plus copy cd and you can find out how.

 

http://www.google.com/search?q=how+to+copy+xbox+games

 

it's easy to rent play station games and xbox games then it is to get pc games if you can get them at all.

[toolboi]

Generally the guys that know how top copy cds and have the hardware to do it, but aren't aware of the warez culture,

 

These people exist? I mean seriously, any monkey with half a brain (well actually I guess that that does discount half the population) knows that a quick search on google can unearth almost anything.

 

edit: And let us not forget store policies on returning games. Even at EB this is becoming neigh impossible.