stellerwinds Posted April 14, 2002 Share Posted April 14, 2002 The serious saberists out there need not worry about unenforcable codes of honor. Players adapt these at their own discretion and you will know who they are. To get a serious sabering server we need only one thing that is possible right now. SLOWED DOWN SPEED. Set the server to "g_speed 200" or "g_speed 180" and drop this defeault 250 speed stuff. I've tested this with the bots and the combat is worlds different. Why is everyone trying to have saber duels at break neck quake speeds?? Before you knock it out of hand, start a botmatch, open the consol and put in the command. You will find that the roll is more realistic. You only roll a few feet out of immediate harm instead of across half the map. And you will find that combat seems more tactical as you face off with your opponent, instead of a wild race of bumber car mania. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Sharky Posted April 14, 2002 Share Posted April 14, 2002 OMG... lol that is so much better... just had a quick ffa with bots and fighting with the saber is a lot more fun. Also blocking is more important since you can't run away easily and the stances seem more balanced somehow. Strong stance guys can't run at you while swinging hoping to hit and then run out of harms way now they are commited to a move. When my server's up and running this is the speed it's gonna run at. Thanks for the great advise! :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stellerwinds Posted April 14, 2002 Author Share Posted April 14, 2002 Well im very glad it worked out for you sharky and i will look forward to that server if i can play on it. All it took for him was giving it a shot and see the results? Come on you serious saberists out there. Lets hear some feedback. It only takes a few minutes to try this out and see for yourselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jedimindtrick Posted April 14, 2002 Share Posted April 14, 2002 There isn't a way to filter these types of servers is there? Either way, the lightsaber fights are what make the game in my opinin... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valdarious Posted April 14, 2002 Share Posted April 14, 2002 I have put my server at 201. Anything at or below 200 and the roll start to become controlable. EI: run forward and crouch, and go into a roll, imediatly after rolling hold back and you will reverse direction. I do like the slower run speed a lil but not that controlable rolling stuff. Its ok to turn and curve with how it is normaly but I dont like the reversing directions stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obi-Cyph Posted April 14, 2002 Share Posted April 14, 2002 Interesting, I put the speed to 210, and it was rather enjoyable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canis_Aureus Posted April 14, 2002 Share Posted April 14, 2002 I have had my server running with speed 200 for as few days. It is great. I will have to check the controllable roll... it would kinda suck. Also on my FFA server the following weapons are disabled - Rocket launcher - DEMP gun - Heavy repeater - Flechette gun It really makes the game much more enjoyable and without those weapons the illusion of Star Wars is better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creston Posted April 14, 2002 Share Posted April 14, 2002 Canis Aureus, How do you disable just those specific weapons? I would really like to know this. Thanks in advance! Creston Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkbroiler Posted April 14, 2002 Share Posted April 14, 2002 That sounds like it might just be the trick! To bad the computer I'm using doesn't have JKII on it or else I'd probably not have posted this reply. All it took for him was giving it a shot and see the results? Come on you serious saberists out there. Lets hear some feedback. It only takes a few minutes to try this out and see for yourselves. ....order now and your serious saber kit is half priced! Thats right, half...... Sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mcloud Posted April 14, 2002 Share Posted April 14, 2002 ive been playing single player at 1/2 speed ever since i found out about the command bind timescale 1 and timescale 0.5 to some keys and youve got maxpayne slo mo add some dismemberment and volumetric shadows (framerate drop less of an issue) and its pure eye candy ps: anyone know how to use new skins in single player? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazyplaya73 Posted April 14, 2002 Share Posted April 14, 2002 This sounds great. I have a dedicated server with Sabers only and I will try this. Where can I find a complete list of all console commands??? How do you disable specific weapons? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S!TH!NAT0R Posted April 14, 2002 Share Posted April 14, 2002 WOW, thats sweet Stellerwinds! -It would be nice if there were more Saber_Only servers out there though and ones that used this slowdown console trick! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S!TH!NAT0R Posted April 14, 2002 Share Posted April 14, 2002 crazyplaya73.....whats yur server name and IP bro!?? -I've only been able to find one Saber-Only server online and thats full half the time:( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D'akt Sangwar Posted April 15, 2002 Share Posted April 15, 2002 yessssssssssss u gotta tell me ure server details so i can come test this out and fight some ppl who like the same stuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valdarious Posted April 15, 2002 Share Posted April 15, 2002 Originally posted by crazyplaya73 This sounds great. I have a dedicated server with Sabers only and I will try this. Where can I find a complete list of all console commands??? How do you disable specific weapons? You can go here and download a weapons calculator, its easy, just click the weapons you want disabled and it will give you the number to plug in. set g_weaponDisable 65531 for example would make it sabers only. g_weaponDisable 1920 would disable the Repeater, emp gun, flechette gun and the rocket launcher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canis_Aureus Posted April 15, 2002 Share Posted April 15, 2002 Originally posted by Creston Canis Aureus, How do you disable just those specific weapons? I would really like to know this. Thanks in advance! Creston It's fairly easy. Each weapon is represented by a bit in a bitfield with 16 bits. If a weapons bit is set to 1 the weapon is disabled. if set to 0 it is not disabled. First decide which weapons you want to disable. Then on a piece of paper write up the binary number with 1s for the weapons you want to disable. You convert this number to decimal number system and put the number you get into this line in your server.cfg seta g_weaponDisable xxxxx where xxxx is the number. 0000000000000000 = 0 (decimal) would be with all weapons enabled 1111111111111111 = 65531 (decimal) would be with all weapons disabled. My setting: 0000011110000000 or just 11110000000 = 1920 (decimal) would disable the weapons I listed above. I then entered this in my server.cfg seta g_weaponDisable 1920 and then you can play and have fun without those weapons that are not really Star Wars like. No more complaining about gun *****s on your server Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazyplaya73 Posted April 15, 2002 Share Posted April 15, 2002 Thanks for the tips! My servers IP is 24.168.87.125 It's full most of the time. I like saber only combat with Jedi Master force powers and I guess many other do as well. Its's good to know how to enable some weapons that don't negate the saber but still the weapons are lame. I don't care if people use em on servers that allow it but to me it become just another game of Quake. There is alot of strategy with the saber and the different force powers. It makes for some fun battles. I really like to game speed slowed down. I have it set to 205 and it does play better. It was too fast before and I didn't realize it! Now does anyone know where to get a FULL listing of commands? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stellerwinds Posted April 15, 2002 Author Share Posted April 15, 2002 Thats awsome that so many of you are finding the joys of slowed down combat. =) Canis_Aureus mind giving your server name or ip? I would love playing on a server with those guns disabled and a slower speed. Sounds like a great attempt at real star wars action. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Low Rent Posted April 15, 2002 Share Posted April 15, 2002 Bump cause I think more people should know about this... slow down your duel/saber only servers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Sharky Posted April 15, 2002 Share Posted April 15, 2002 Originally posted by crazyplaya73 Now does anyone know where to get a FULL listing of commands? Bring down the console and type /cmdlist and then use page up and page down to scroll through the list. Or after getting the list you can output it to a file by doing a condump e.g. /condump <filename> So you could use /condump cmdlist.txt and it will save the cmdlist.txt file in the JK2 gamedata/base directory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaKhard Posted April 15, 2002 Share Posted April 15, 2002 !!!! Perfect man. Simply perfect. I absolutely love the NF saber duels. And this slower speed takes a lot of the "wait for the mad spinning enemy to get close enough for your quick strike" style play, which can be fun, but this is better Great find/hunt for this trick man! GG!! TaKhard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthMark Posted April 15, 2002 Share Posted April 15, 2002 slowing the speed is better but only for duels in my opinion it is very cool though and much better somebody mentioned that u can get rid of specific weapons, can u get rid of specific force powers???????????????????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canis_Aureus Posted April 15, 2002 Share Posted April 15, 2002 DarkMark the disable force power command is bugged I think - or perhaps I just haven't figured out how it works I know it's a bitfield with 15 bits and every bit should represent a force power... but hey there is more than 15 force powers Perhaps the dark/light powers are linked together so you disable those in pairs... beats me. I hope Raven will give us some real info on this. And Stellerwinds The name of my server is: "DK Imperator Academy DK" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazyplaya73 Posted April 15, 2002 Share Posted April 15, 2002 So you could use /condump cmdlist.txt and it will save the cmdlist.txt file in the JK2 gamedata/base directory. Perfect. Thanks Sharky! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D66 Posted April 15, 2002 Share Posted April 15, 2002 Canis_Aureus: The disableforcepower command is most asuredly bugged.. There are several threads about it in the Dedicated Server Forum. Seems that no matter what you disable Jump is always disabled. Hopefully this will be something addressed in the patch. Also, there are unconfirmed reports of an Ausgamer server that managed to disable non-neutral powers w/o disabling jump.... Still waiting on that report and how it was done. Swing by the Dedicated Server Forum for more info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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