T-Minus10 Posted April 14, 2002 Share Posted April 14, 2002 VERSION 1.0 UPDATED Sunday, April 14 2002 --------------------------------------------- FIRST: If you have solved any problems, especially if they're not listed here, please post what the problem was and what you did to fix it. Second: Voila: ok you've got a problem --> first try these things ** STEP 0: Caint install? ** Try the following things. Start by skipping to STEP 4 and once your done jump back here. Can you install now? If not call tech support, no more info on this yet. ** STEP 1: You Sure? ** Test it out AGAIN, this time with all background applications closed (ctrl-alt-del then "end task" to everything except systray and explorer) if your running win2k ctrl-alt-del then click on task manager and then end all running processes you know aren't necessary. If it still doesn't work go to step 2 does it work? If so, the problems related to something else in your system, load up each program one at a time and try JKII, when it stops working, you've isolated the problem. Harass both Raven and the makers of the piece of software that you've loaded up. ** Step 2: Maybe it's not JKII at all ** update your drivers. My recommended drivers are listed below: ATi Radeon Official Driver: Win9X http://download.ati.com/drivers/wme-radeon-4-13-9021-efg.exe Win2000 http://download.ati.com/drivers/w2k-radeon-5-13-01-6043-efg.exe WinXP http://download.ati.com/drivers/wxp-radeon-6-13-10-6043-efg.exe nVIDIA Riva/TNT/GeForce Win9x: http://205.158.109.140/Windows/28.32/28.32_win9x.exe Win2K/XP: http://205.158.109.140/Windows/28.32/28.32_winxp.exe Via chipsets (4in1 driver): VIA 4-IN-1 VERSION 4.38: http://downloads.viaarena.com/drivers/4in1/4in1438(2)v(a).exe *NOTE: IF RUNNING WINDOWS XP WHILE INSTALLING THESE DRIVERS, FIRST RIGHT CLICK ON THEM, CLICK PROPERTIES, CLICK COMPATIBILITY, CLICK 'RUN THIS PROGRAM IN COMPATIBILITY MODE FOR:" THEN SELECT WINDOWS 2000. CLICK OK THEN INSTALL THE DRIVERS. Sound Blaster Live: WinME: http://www.clok.creaf.com/creative/...i/SBLWMEDrv.exe Win95/98: http://www.clok.creaf.com/creative/...pci/sblw9xup.ex e Win2000: http://www.clok.creaf.com/creative/...bpci/lw3drv.exe Sound Blaster Live 5.1: Win95/98/ME: http://www.clok.creaf.com/creative/...SBL51_W9xME.exe Win2000: http://www.clok.creaf.com/creative/...i/SBL51_W2k.exe goto http://www.windowsupdate.com and update windows, make sure you have Direct X 8/8a Goto ww.glsetup.com, download it, run it. Work now? If you have upgraded from a 3DFX card move to section 2.1 If you haven't upgraded from a 3DFX card and you have an nVIDIA card (TNT x/Geforce x/Quadro x) skip to section 2.2 If it doesn't work and you don't get hard-crashes go to step 4 ** Step 2.1: 3DFX sucks ** -but they're dead so why do they have to care *note from ed: Before you do this backup your registry. How? *blatantly ripped from http://www.tweak3d.net* " To make a backup, go into regedit within Windows (Start --> Run --1> regedit) and choose Export Registry File from the Registry menu. To restore a backup, click on the Import Registry File selection and browse to the name of the file you saved your registry to. I recommend using backup.dat. " blatantly ripped from Widowmarker's post in the Seriously! Forums (http://www.seriouscommunity.com): " info if you've upgraded from a voodoo card to an nVIDIA card ...i[Widowmaker99] got this read me from a 3dfx tech rep about 6 months ago and it details the way to totally remove any 3dfx card from your system tho it's long ... it's the only way i could switch from a voodoo3 to a TNT2 read it carefully or print it out and follow the instructions closely (you might want to print this out for reference): 1. Open the add/remove programs section and remove any 3DFX items. 2. Go into the control panel-->system-->device manager, now go to the Voodoo3 listed under "display adapter", update the driver to the "standard display adapter VGA" and reboot. To set the adapter to standard VGA right click on the "my computer" icon and choose "properties" (or press the Windows hotkey and pause at the same time), this will take you into the "system properties." Click on the "device manager" tab, click on the plus sign in front of the "display adapter" category. Now double-click on the display adapter listed, then choose the "driver" tab. Now choose "update" or "change" driver (depending upon which version of Windows you have). You will then want to choose the options "display a list of all drivers" and then "show all hardware" to bring up the Windows list of manufacturers. The "standard display types" are at the top of the list. The "Standard Display Adapter VGA" is the first one in this list. After choosing this adapter, if you have Windows 98 you will get a warning message, disregard it and choose "yes." The Standard Display Adapter VGA will only give you 16 colors and a 640x480 resolution. You will now need to reboot to make the change take affect (Windows will prompt you to do this). 3. Next we need to run regedit remove ANY references to 3DFX, Glide, and VooDoo. To do this do the following*: *Note: Be very careful to follow these directions to the letter, you could damage windows if you do not... 1. Open regedit by going: Start-->run and type "regedit" in the open box (no drive letters) 2. In regedit, open the "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/Software" folder and delete the "3DFX interactive" folder, and if present, an "STB systems" folder. 3. Then open the "HKEY_CURRENT_USER/Software" folder and if you see a "3DFX interactive" folder, delete this one as well. 4. Then click on EDIT from the menu bar at the top of the registry editor and click on "Find" 5. Now, type in "3DFX" and hit "Find Next". 6. When it stop searching the registry hit the Delete key and say yes when it asks you if you are sure. 7. Then hit F3 to do a find next. 8. It is important that you keep repeating this pattern each time it stops (Delete, Yes, F3). Delete every thing it stops on, no matter what it is. However, do not delete anything but the first thing it stops on when it halts its search or you could delete too much. Let the registry editor search for each item you want to delete and this should prevent major problems. 9. When regedit says: "Finished searching through the registry", close it down and open it back up and repeat steps 4 through 8. Reg edit will not find everything on the first try so you will have to do steps 4-9 several times. Repeat Steps 4 through 9 for the words "Glide" and "Voodoo" as well. Once you have done these you should be done with the registry removal part of this, REBOOT THE SYSTEM to verify the system will boot ok.The last part that remains is to remove the driver files themselves. To do that, do the following: 1. Open windows explorer by right clicking the "My Computer" icon and selecting "Explore". 2. Click on "View" from the menu choices at the top and select either "Options" or "Folder options" depenidng on if you have Internet Explorer 3.x or 4.X installed (Win 98 comes with IE 4.x, 95 with IE 3.x) 3. Select the View tab if necessary and make sure that the "Show all files" section is checked and that the "Hide file extensions for known file types" box is Unchecked. 4. Then hit OK to apply the changes. 5. Now click on Tools from this same menu and go to Find-->files or folders. 6. In this box, the "Look in" section needs to say C:\ (or what ever your windows directory is in) and the Include subfolders checkbox is checked. 7. Then type in the named box: 3dfx*.* and hit find now. * Delete any files in the x:\windows\ ; x:\windows\system\ ; x:\windows\inf ; x:\windows\inf\other\ ; x:\windows\help directories. (where x:\ is the Drive the windows folder is located in. If you installed windows to a nonstandard directory, change "windows" whenever appropriate). Repeat steps 6 and 7 for the following as well: Glide*.* and Voodoo*.* Once you are done with all this, simply re-install the new drivers. " Work? If you get hard-crashes, goto step 3.3 (ie if ctrl-alt-del do nothing) If you still have problems, goto step 4. ** Step 2.2: nVIDIA sucks as well ** nVIDIA Driver Removal: For all you nVIDIA owners (TNT x/Geforce x/Quadro x/)have you ever had any leaked nVIDIA drivers on the system on which you're trying to run JKII? Even if you haven't, I recomend you download both the newest detonators off of nVIDIA and a utility called NVCleaner. (the newest drivers are linked above) NVCleaner: http://www.btinternet.com/~bobruck/...upNVCleaner.exe install NvCleaner. Right click on the control panel, click on properties. Click on the "device manager" tab. Make sure "view devices by type" is selected. Scroll down to "display adapter" and click on the "+" besides it. Click on your graphics card, as to highlight it, then click on properties. Click on the "Driver" tab. Then click on "Update Driver". Click "Specify the Location of the driver (advanced" or the equivalent "advanced" in your o/s. Click on "Display a list of all drivers . . ." or the equivalent. Make sure "Show compatible hardware" is selected, then click on "Standard PCI Graphics Adapter (VGA). . ." and click next and next again. Restart when prompted to. Run NVCleaner once you restart into what I call "biggie mode" (ie 640x480x16 colors) Click on clean. Once it's done, restart, then once you've restarted again install the detonators. Restart once more, and try Sam again. if THAT doesn't work, download GLSetup from http://www.glsetup.com. Run it. It will then update your gl drivers to even newer ones and it will do that without breaking anything. Once it prompts you to restart, restart. Pray. Try Sam again. Work? NOW FOR BIOS UPDATING (*NOTE YOU CAN PERMANENTLY DAMAGE YOUR VID CARD BY DOING THIS, YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!) *note some of this is blatantly ripped from the NVFlash readme goto http://www.nvmax.com/downloads/bios/data.shtml Get the bios that accords to your card. Get NVFlash from the bottom of the page. 1.) Extract all of that to C:\ 2.) Restart into dos mode either with the option or with a boot disk (to make a boot disk put a disk in your a drive, goto start-->settings-->control panel-->Add/remove programs-->Startup Disk-->Create Disk) To backup your bios. . . 3. at the command prompt type "NVFlash -backupbios.rom" BOOM! ur bios is dumped to that location To flash your bios... 4) Type nvflash.exe for options or nvflash -fBIOSNAME.ROM to start. (replacing fBIOSNAME.ROM with the name of your .ROM file) If you get hard-crashes, goto step 3.3 (ie if ctrl-alt-del do nothing) If you still have problems, goto step 4. ** Step 2.3: Still crashing? ** What's the problem? Not sure, but to cover all bases, lets make sure your AGP isn't set to a speed that's too high. There are lots of issues with 2x/4x agp speed. Run at 1X/2x (usually 2x if your mobo supports 4x max and 1x if your mobo supports 2x max) how? this is a problem for your bios. Grab your motherboard manual or just press delete during bootup and look around for AGP speed. Find the place where it says 4x/2x and change away. Also try disabling Side Band Addressing and AGP Fast writes. Save. If the game becomes stable, try re-enabling Side Band Addressing and AGP Fast Writes. If the system becomes unstable again, clearly disable these. *note* most newer Cards store the information they need on fast onboard ram instead of in system memory (Which AGP gives the graphics card access to). Lowering your AGP speed down to 1x or 2x won't make a huge difference. Work? Good for you. Not? Goto step 3. ** STEP 3: Bad Install ** nuke JK2. Uninstall it then delete the folder that it created Delete the following keys (if they exist. If they don't the uninstallation did what it was supposed to do!): "Star Wars JK II Jedi Outcast" in HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\DirectPlay\Applications\Star Wars JK II Jedi Outcast and in HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\LucasArts Entertainment Company LLC\ Now reinstall it, work now? Go back to step 1 and perform step 1-3 again, if all those fail go to step 5 ** STEP 4: For all your cd-rom related errors that you didn't know about ** This is what we do when your cd-rom drive doesn't read quite right (ie crc errors or asks to insert the CD when it's already there): Downgrade! WINDOWS 9X: right click on "my computer" and click "properties". Click on the performance tab. Click on "file system". Click on the CD-ROM tab. Move "supplemental cache size" to small and change "optimize access pattern for:" to "no read ahead". Now click ok. Click on the device manager tab and make sure "view device by type" is checked. Click the "+" by the CDROM tab that comes off of computer. Click once on whichever CD-ROM drive you use as the reader (usually the only cd-rom drive there) -- note: it may not seem like a cdrom drive. For instance my CD-ROM says AO6. Now that the cd-rom drive you want has been highlighted click on properties. Click on the settings tab. Uncheck "Disconnect", "Sync Data Transfer" and "DMA" if they're checked. Click ok, click ok, restart when prompted to. This should fix your read-errors and make your cd read more precisely (albeit a bit slower). ** Step 5: Faith Prevails| ** It still doesn't work? post your problem, call tech support, pray to the great god, and take a nap. Once the nap and prayer is over, try going outside and getting a real life and stop wasting your life away posting FAQs for JKII. . . I mean go back to step 1 and start over. peace out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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