Kyles Lightsaber color

[SpaceMonkey1315]

ive been a fan of this series since Dark Forces came out, but i have yet to find out one thing about kyles lightsaber in JK2...When Jedi knight ends, (and mysteries of the sith ends), kyle has the golden lightsaber that he took from yun when he fought serris in the origional jedi knight. Kyle vowed never to use the force again, turned in his lightsaber, bla bla bla...but if he ended both of the other games with the orange lightsaber, how did he come out with a blue lightsaber that luke was holding for him all this time...there was no record of any sort saying that he made his own saber, or he took someone elses, he just seems to end up with a blue saber...can someone make sense out of this for me??

 

-SpMonkey §ß

 

 

p.s, i know this was in other forums, i just really want an answer

[GreyJedi]

The consensus is that he had to have made his own saber after MOTS while training at the Jedi Academy, which he subsequently left.

 

The real answer is that the developers forgot to match the saber color.

[CupO'Coffee]

they "forgot" to match the saber color? i don't think that the developers would've done such a big, obvious, mistake. but then again... maybe it is indeed so. i just think that the developers as well as the beta testers thought that the blue lightsaber looks better than the grenn or the orange one, so they implemented the blue one and simply said the special K has build a new one after MotS, cheap excuse IMO, since his yellow lightsaber sure had some emotional importance to him

[SpaceMonkey1315]

yeah, plus the blue saber is overused...i mean, obiwan, luke,everybody seems to have one...the new yellow saber just really changes it...why i use it in multiplayer in the first place...but yeah, kyle wouldnt have taken yuns lightsaber more that one battle before he ditched it and would make a new one...there was something special about that saber, its just not there...if they actually did have a reason, i think they should've made it a point in the cutscenes to show why he had a new saber

 

Space Monkey §ß

 

 

P.S. the hilt of the lightsaber is different too, judging by the detail put into lightsaber handles (lukes saber actually looks like lukes) they would want to make it close to what we saw in the cutscenes in JK...i dont really know

[Fliko]

i thought it said he needed to get a new one because his old one got lost or something

[obijonkenobi]

Personally I think the new hilt for Kyle is the best hilt Kyle has had ever. So I am glad the hilt's design is significantly better - even if it does contradict the "continuity" of the story lines.

 

As for the blades colour, I think it would be have been rather spiffy if the scripting was that shortly after completing the trials, but before Nar Shadaa his lightsabre fails due to the crystal screwing up. This then gives the user to replace it with a crystal of their choice (ie: choose your own color) which would then help the continuity.

 

But alas there was no such thing but I still prefer blue to a yellow or orange sabre. If the sabre was yellow by default I would use the sabre color code to change it anyway.

 

But I would probably choose a green sabre if I had the choice as they look prettiest against a red sabre. This is only my preferance though. Blue looks great against red as well so I am not complaining.

[Kev'i Haric]

Form this very website:

 

Interview w/ Mike Stemmle, the scripwriter:

 

Q: Why was there another color change to Kyle's lightsaber? He ended Jedi Knight with a yellow blade, and used an orange blade in Mysteries of the Sith. (Which was possibly intended to be the same yellow one.) When did he build/find the blue saber and give it to Luke for safekeeping?

 

A: There are number of dry, metatextual reasons for the color change, all of which would bore the living bejebus out of y’all, trust me. I’m loathe to give a "canon" explanation for the change, however…particularly when the fan-driven speculation on the topic is far more rational than anything I would dream up.Aw, come on! Don't make me put up with another 3 years of people discussing this saber coloring "error" on the web....

 

In otherwords, THEY DIDN'T CARE! The quality of this game is going to allow it to hit a much wider audience than the earlier ones. (I never played ANY SW games before this.) The blue saber is much more recognizable for the masses to consume.

[obijonkenobi]

In the end it really comes down to: Whats done is done and can not be undone. So use the sabre colour cheat (bind it to a key) at the beginning of each level (one key press is not too much trouble) if you don't like blue for a blade. If you dont like blue and refuse to use the blade colour cheat then play the original JK1 game as nothing you can do will change whats already done.

[CupO'Coffee]

what i thought about is: blue, geen and... pink sabers are used by light sided jedis, while red and red-alike colored sabers are used by dark sided jedis.

so maybe they implemented the blue lightsaber because the yellow one is more alike to red than to blue (it was used by a dark jedi after all). and since kyle is a good guy they maybe implemented the blue lightsaber to spare them the "good jedis don't use yellow sabers!" talk

[obijonkenobi]

I still think the reason is the developers just wanted a blue sabre this time. And good on you Raven. I know I am happy with a blue blade by default. Green would also please me. As those two colours are the best colours to "clash" with red (excuse the lightsabre phun... I was meaning "clash" as in colour mixing on a fashion level)

[CupO'Coffee]

i'm thinking the same, but the subject i talked about in my post above is just something that had maybe influence on their decision or can be used as an explanation.

the reason the choose the blue saber was most likely because they, as well as the beta testers liked the blue saber most

[obijonkenobi]

If we were to invent a reason story-wise, then probably I would most beleive a maintance-related reason. Like the crystal was in need of replacing. Like all man made things, everything eventually needs to be repaired or parts replaced. In this case the crystal was needing a replacement and it so happened a blue one was put in its place.

 

An in-story option of having a choice of colour for the blade could have been a nice feature. (Maybe using that above "maintenance theory" could be used.) Like just after cutting down the rops and completing the trials his sabre croaks on him and while the cut scene luke n kyle have, they also fix the sabre - or kyle does alone - before he heads off to Nar Shadaa.

[princessliar]

Something interesting I noticed today - I was flicking through my copy of Dark Forces: Rebel Agent and it says Yun's saber is blue. Hmmm.

[SPY_jmr1]

well thats a load of crap... yun's saber was/is YELLOW!!!

 

take it from a guy who played jki about 8 billion times

 

if you stayed light, you got yun's yellow blade.

 

if dark then you kept morgan's green saber.(also saved the crow...)

[XxWinnaRxX]

I like the maintenance theory, btw.

 

The problem is that the game developers _always_ assume that you took the light side path. Almost everybody takes the dark side path.

 

That would be cooler, because then Kyle would be unimaginably powerful, what with the force energy in the Valley. Also, he'd still have the crow, and his neat looking green saber.

 

I think he should have kept the crow and his green saber throughout the storyline anyway, but that's just me.

 

About JK: DFII - I never bothered to watch the cutscenes for the dark side - how is it that when you crash the crow, Yun is conveniently waiting for you, and not injured at all by the big space ship falling out of the sky? I can't think of anywhere in BGJ where you could be when the Crow crashed without being at least marred a bit.

[SPY_jmr1]

nonono if you crash you fight sarris.

 

if you dont crash you fight yun

[Prince Legolas]

Thanks for liking my Maintainance theory Although I am sure others have thought of that too without my influence.

 

(By the way, im ObiJonKenobi - I just wanted a better name for the forums)

 

It would have been great to have two stories to play. The one which was developed being the "Light" story line... But have a "Dark" storyline as well which possibly could put you in Desanns place... but you'd be Kyle (the Dark Jedi). This would not conflict with the Light side as they are basicly alternative realities. Think of the movie sliding doors... Both realities exist because of the two choices you had to choose from earlier on in your life (in this case being to join the Dark or Light side "officially").

 

Of course this would have really set back the release date... So maybe the Dark "alternate reality" could be the storyline used for any expansion pack for Jedi Outcast?

[CupO'Coffee]

to be honest, i don't like the "Maintainance theory", because of, for example, vaders/anakins lightsaber didn't need any maintainance in over 30 years!

 

ps: it was the same saber luke received when he was ~20 and since anakin had his lightsaber before luke was born the saber could be up to 30 years old

[Kev'i Haric]

Aside from Maul getting his saber cut in half, we havent' seen what happens to a saber when it's hilt is destroyed.

 

Maybe someone got a lucky shot in on Kyle...

[Jedi-Bert]

Jedi Knight-Gets Green saber from Rahn

-Gets Yellow saber from Yun

 

MOTS -Has new saber (NOT YUNS! Yun's was yellow, MOTS had ORANGE) Orange, saber he built

 

JKII -Blue? (possibly built after MOTS, mabye he lost his lightsaber in the sith temple)

 

My theory is that he got rid of the orange saber, and built a new one as part of his coming back to the light side, then finaly got disgusted with the force and the problems it caused him, so he abandoned it.

[Kurgan]

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