Upgraded for WHAT??

[Jerol Seren]

Ok, I just did a major upgrade to my system and I was all excited to get to play Jedi Knight II in single player with everything set to max. But I find I can't...as soon as I start the game, it's really jerky. I find myself turning the graphics back down to what I had it at before...when I had an AMD 700, now I have:

AMD 1800

Geforce2 MX 200

384 ram

 

nothing running in the background and everything is updated.

[DragomanJK]

that card sucks compared to the rest of the system...

That's the bottleneck

[twit21]

For Heaven's sake, I wish you guys would stop the stupid graphics card bashing! There is NOTHING WRONG with the MX series of GeForce cards!

 

Now, Jerol, as for your problem - what OS are you running? I think I may have the answer to your problem, if you're running Windows XP.

 

-]Bob

[SGT D]

twit21 - I don't think he's bashing that much...all he is stating is that the GeF2 is the bottleneck of that system. Right now, you can pick up a GeF3 pretty cheap - that would definately help ya

 

You have a fast enough system...it's just the card will hold you back a little

[Jerol Seren]

Originally posted by twit21

For Heaven's sake, I wish you guys would stop the stupid graphics card bashing! There is NOTHING WRONG with the MX series of GeForce cards!

 

Now, Jerol, as for your problem - what OS are you running? I think I may have the answer to your problem, if you're running Windows XP.

 

-]Bob

 

I'm running Windows XP...any help would be great!

[twit21]

Try this:

 

http://www.lucasforums.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=47661

 

Hopefully it will solve your problem.

 

-]Bob

[Ignodium]

the card carnt bottle neck teh processor, the processor can only bottleneck the card, stop tossing around terms to sound smart.

 

 

and yes, the geforce 2 mx cards were an amazing value, really good.

[Hurin]

Originally posted by Ignodium

the card carnt bottle neck teh processor, the processor can only bottleneck the card, stop tossing around terms to sound smart.

 

That's completely nonsensical.

 

If you have a very fast video card (GF3 ti500 for example), but a slow processor, the video card may just be sitting there idle most of the time, waiting for more data from the CPU. In that case, the CPU is the bottleneck.

 

But, rather, if you have a very fast CPU (2Ghz+ for example) and an older/slower video card (GF2 MX for example), the CPU might be sending more data to the video card (or waiting to do so) than the video card is capable of rendering. In that situation, the video card could be said to be the bottleneck in that system.

 

So, to paraphrase you: Please don't state incorrect information and abuse other users in order to sound smart.

 

Hurin

[BrandonCommando]

i have an MX GeForce 2 and its perfect no sense buying a Ge3 for such a small boost ya know...the Ge2 is just as good and all runs smooth and perfect

 

 

please be nice to my card you guys =P

[Avernus]

I usually take benchmarks with a grain of salt, but this case seems to be pretty clear cut.

Running JK2 on an Athlon 2000+ testbed at 1024x768x32bit

 

With a GF2MX200 -32fps

With a GF3TI500 -89fps

 

Sounds like a bottleneck, maybe it wouldn't be so pronounced at lower resolution but still.

 

Check out the article:

http://www.tomshardware.com/graphic/02q2/020418/index.html

[twit21]

Any way you look at it, this argument isn't helping to solve Jerol's problem.

 

Jerol, did those instructions help? Or is there still a problem?

 

-]Bob

[Deetox187]

I have a gf2 mx and the game runs just fine on my 1ghz system with all details at max (800x600 yes, anything higher and the card really slows down). In duels i get blazing framerates of 100+ and in a 10 man FFA it doesn't drop farther than 30fps (in BIG fights) and singleplayer runs even better (cept for the swamp). So saying that the card is the reason for Jerol having this problem is complete BS, he has an extra 800mhz on me so this game should be FLYING on his comp.

[Hurin]

Jesus people! Talk about partisanship!

 

Nobody is saying that the MX series aren't/weren't good values. But, the question here is, "why didn't my CPU/system upgrade have *any* effect on performance?"

 

The answer is (most likely) that he did not upgrade his video card.

 

Yes, somebody above said that the GF2 MX "sucks". That may have been a poor choice of words. . . but he *did* say that it sucked "compared to the rest of the system". That's important.

 

No, there is nothing wrong with the GF2 MX cards. . . but they are no longer new. . . and putting one in an otherwise fully state-of-the-art machine *will* cause a bottleneck. Essentially, the GF2 MX card will not be able to keep up with the rest of the system. . . and everything will have to slow down to the "lowest common denominator". . . in this case, the GF2 MX.

 

Other than a poor choice of words on one person's part, nobody has bashed the GF2 MX. But people need to realize that there is a *reason* that the GF3 and GF4 came out! The GF2 MX was/is a good card. . . but it has been surpassed. . . it's just a fact.

 

Best Regards,

 

Hurin