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[Ronald McDonald]

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[Mr. White]

Yes. Newest drivers sucks. Somewhat (depends on the mother board).

[Ronald McDonald]

Ty White, but if you could please be a little more specific, like instead of saying it sucks, say why.

[Sutek]

In answer to your questions:

 

1) Yes. But don't - it has a lot of problems playing MP apparently, and I think that anyone who won't shell out the quite reasonable price for it should be shot.

 

2) Dunno, I've never had a problem with mine. I suspect people just think they aren't as good as the "full" boards. How odd.

 

3) There are many different types of memory available, and which you can use depends on your motherboard. As general rule, NEVER, EVER mix two types of RAM, and it is apprently better to have one large stick than two smaller ones (due to very slight timing differences between the sticks). If you don't know which motherboard you have (or don't know how to find out), let me know some more about your computer and I will do my best to find out and tell you.

[Flasher182]

Originally posted by Ronald McDonald

 

2.)Why do people bash on the GeForce -MX- cards?

 

-l2onald McDonald

 

The Geforce 2 mx's or the Geforce 4 mx's? If it's the Geforce 4 mx's then it's because it doesn't have direct x 8 support, which means better graphics now and in the future. If it's the Geforce 2 mx's then it's because it uses SDRAM Memory which is twice as slow as DDR and it also has no Direct x 8 support.

[penguin_hash]

Actually, I believe is it most preferable to use four sticks of RAM. Then two sticks.

 

I haven't heard of strange timing problems with RAM causing problems since it's refreshed anyways. It's a different situation than CPUs, which theoretically could suffer from clock drift. If there is some type of issue with variable timing (assuming your BIOS settings are correct), please post it here. I'd like to know.

 

As for using more sticks, it allows the chipset to optimize memory IO by interleaving, thus speeding up your transfer rates. Ofcourse, the motherboard has to support this feature.

[RiverWalker]

geeze... getting some off/bad explanations here...

 

GF2MX's are a cut back video card, kinda like a celeron, they are simply not as good, by design, so they can be so cheap. my dads computer has one, I have a GF2GTS 32mb DDR, I can go at noticably higher settings, and higher resolutions, it has higher frequencys and faster ram.

 

GF4MX's are not gaming video cards, they are like... developers type video cards,

 

didn't you say you had a k6-2 500? if you don't have an agp slot, then your pretty much STUCK with a GF2mx anyway, but then again the whole rest of your system would bottleneck a Geforce2 of any type to a large degree.

 

Regular SDram is NOT "twice as slow" as DDR SDram. DDR has signifigantly increased BANDWIDTH,

 

"Actually, I believe is it most preferable to use four sticks of RAM. Then two sticks. " well, in most cases, you belive wrong. in some cases it NEEDS the ram in pairs, and that is bad design anymore, more sticks of ram for the same amount of memory is a bad thing, more contact points, more points for failure, more sticks, more surface area getting warm, potentially able to cause enough heat to magnify electron migration creating BSOD's.

 

and I belive interleaving can function within a single stick of ram, between the physical chips.

 

but besides, we are not talking about even an athlon/p3 level system here, most likely a GF2 Ultra would have no more benefit than a GF2GTS because the rest of the system would be the limit.

 

yes, there are different kinds of ram, if I remember right, your board could take 72pin simms, or 128 pin dimms, if it uses dimms, then you can almost certainly get standard PC133 or PC100 CAS3 Single Data Rate, SDRam, and it work fine,

 

look in there, how many memory slots are there, and does it have like plastic folding clips on the sides, with 2 locator bumps down the slot,

or plastic/metal clips that snap closed, with a single locator bump in the middle? possibly angled,

[Flasher182]

Originally posted by RiverWalker

GF4MX's are not gaming video cards, they are like... developers type video cards

 

Regular SDram is NOT "twice as slow" as DDR SDram. DDR has signifigantly increased BANDWIDTH,

 

 

1) How are gf4 mx's developer cards? They are Mid-Range Gaming Cards.

 

2) A geforce2mx with 32 mb's of Sdram has a bandwith of 2.7 Gb/sec and a Geforce2 GTS with 32 mb's of DDR Sdram has a Bandwith of 5.3 GB/sec, How can you say DDR Sdram isn't twice as fast as Sdram? . . . LOL!!!

[RiverWalker]

GF4MX is NOT a gaming card!!! read the website!! the GF4MX chipset is NOT for 3d applications, it doesn't include things the gaming card does, like Dx8 support.

 

and you trying to pull a han solo here? going a certain distance in a measure of distance?

 

Gb/sec is NOT speed, that is bandwidth, as in how much information is transferred PER second, rather than SPEED which is how fast the signals are going back and forth beween the memory and GPU

 

edit: reading again, it confuses me that you don't seem to understand the difference between "speed" and "bandwidth" since you state that the bandwidth is doubled, like I said, then say it's faster.

 

Bandwidth: Quantity of information being transferred per unit of time.

 

Speed: how fast a signal goes between 2 points, or how fast the response time of a particular component is,

 

so, yes, DDR is faster but not double, while it DOES have double the bandwidth.

 

similar to how RDRam (quad pumped for a simulated 400mhz bus) has HUGE BANDWIDTH, but since it's only based on a 100mhz frequency, it has a SLOWER response time to DDR, which is comparatively only "double pumped" for a simualted 266mhz bus. Lower BANDWIDTH, but noticably FASTER response time.

 

which is why for things that you load lots of sequential information, Rambus is better, but for things like gaming, where you are loading bits and peices of more eccentric data, and needed faster, DDR is better.