yoda_alex Posted May 22, 2002 Share Posted May 22, 2002 You could have anakin and vader in the same film, but just as long as you don't tell the audience that they afre the same person. For example, you could have a scene where anakin is apparently killed. Then vader shows up, obi and yoda can sense it's anakin and then go into hiding to escape his wrath - or something like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VIO Posted May 23, 2002 Share Posted May 23, 2002 what the frick are u talking about vader can't be revealed as anakin haven't you seen one of the epI poster with anakin with the shadow of vader DUH everyone knows hes vader why try to hide it remember these movies weren't ment to be watched from one to six they are just prequels there piont is show us how the origanl ones came to be not to tell continue the story everyone already knows Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vestril Posted May 23, 2002 Share Posted May 23, 2002 Originally posted by VIO what the frick are u talking about vader can't be revealed as anakin haven't you seen one of the epI poster with anakin with the shadow of vader DUH everyone knows hes vader why try to hide it remember these movies weren't ment to be watched from one to six they are just prequels there piont is show us how the origanl ones came to be not to tell continue the story everyone already knows *shakes his head* Just...never mind. You're obviously right, Lucas never intended anyone to watch these movies 1-6 I'm just too stupid to notice your remarkable observations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedi_Monk Posted May 23, 2002 Share Posted May 23, 2002 *shakes his head* Just...never mind. You're obviously right, Lucas never intended anyone to watch these movies 1-6 I don't even think Lucas is really trying to hide it... the music they play when Anakin is turning is Vader's music... the shadow on the Lars' homestead in SW2 looks like Vader's helmet... Anakin expresses that he would willingly follow a dictator... he flings the Force around as Vader does (though with much more destructive consequences). Besides, think emotional impact over the cliffhanger. Seeing Anakin maimed, seeing him give his soul up to Palpatine, seeing him imprisoned behind a black mask. Seeing Anakin Skywalker die and Darth Vader born. I'd much rather see and experience that than have the cliffhangers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muh2o Posted May 23, 2002 Share Posted May 23, 2002 The ONLY way Episode 3 can end is to show the mask of Vader, slowly being fitted over Anakin's head...fade to black...hear the famous breathing of Vader.....end credits... Episode 3 will be loaded: 1) The construction of the Death Star 2) Luke and Leia being born (and separated?) 3) The fall of the Jedi 4) The rise of the Empire 5) Stormtroopers! 6) Boba Fett! The Emperor! 7) The lightsaber duel to end lightsaber duels! Obi-Wan v. Anakin May xx, 2005 can't come fast enough! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vestril Posted May 23, 2002 Share Posted May 23, 2002 Originally posted by Jedi_Monk I don't even think Lucas is really trying to hide it... the music they play when Anakin is turning is Vader's music... the shadow on the Lars' homestead in SW2 looks like Vader's helmet... Anakin expresses that he would willingly follow a dictator... he flings the Force around as Vader does (though with much more destructive consequences). Besides, think emotional impact over the cliffhanger. Seeing Anakin maimed, seeing him give his soul up to Palpatine, seeing him imprisoned behind a black mask. Seeing Anakin Skywalker die and Darth Vader born. I'd much rather see and experience that than have the cliffhangers. Just try to imagine it as if it were a real series, 1-6. Would you want to spoil the suprises in early chapters? These other things are foreshadowing, and think of how much emotional impact those moments lose if you know already that Darth Vader really is Lukes father, if you were watching the series for the first time 1-6. These are things Lucas has said, whether he does them or not, is up in the air. I think it can be done even more dramatically if you don't know, if the impression that Darth Vader betrays and murders Anakin Skywalker as Obi Wan says. Do I believe that it will turn out exactly as I'm saying?? I have no expectations. Expectations are what ruined TPM for so many people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoda_alex Posted May 23, 2002 Share Posted May 23, 2002 The most dramatic point in ESB is when vader tells luke that he is his father - if you know at the end of Ep3 that anakin is vader, you ruin the surprise in ESB. The trouble is, that lucas is trying to cater for two groups of people; those that have seen the original trilogy and those that haven't. For the people who know the story of Ep4-6, he puts in certain tidbits (like the "you'll be the death of me" quote) and the shadow on the wall for the advertising for TPM. However, lucas's idea is that when all the films are finished, someone who is completely new to the star wars universe will be able to watch all 6 films in order (ie 1-6) with no major plot twists being uncovered. The TPM poster is only a very minor spoiler that anyone who is new to the film would probably have forgotten by the time they got to watch the original trilogy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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