Midgit Yoda Posted August 24, 2002 Share Posted August 24, 2002 Well I don't mean to constantly critisize but is there any way you can give us a render of him from straight on in the front? I would feel a lot better if I could just see that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawk_of_war Posted August 24, 2002 Share Posted August 24, 2002 I agree with yoda, that might aleviate some of the problems that we see from this angle, cause nothing personal, but the mouth does look way too big. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bleek Posted August 24, 2002 Share Posted August 24, 2002 ehhh..I cant see his face in that render very well..... Is there something wrong with his eyes? And if you can't take criticism well...then dun post pics of your model here for people to talk about. This is a place for you to get suggestions about your model to help you fix it if you are having problems or dont realise that you might have something wrong. I know on my model the people have been a huge help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawk_of_war Posted August 24, 2002 Share Posted August 24, 2002 Ok, most of that made since, and is true, but what the heck were you trying to say in that second to last sentince? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matariel Posted August 24, 2002 Share Posted August 24, 2002 sorry, but dont get ****ty with me, there are some major problems with your model at this point, so to call it 'finished' is simply silly  bender's hands are round, with 3 fingers, his torso is still a little off, same with his 'mouth'  try and post some bigger renders next time (640x480 is pretty much standard) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarHawk109 Posted August 24, 2002 Author Share Posted August 24, 2002 Matariel, are you f*cking insane? i told every one the hands are round! and he has 3 fingures. i don't care if people critisise, its just that you critisise about things ive already fixed, ya know i worked hard on this model, and im not going to take anymore sh*t from anyone! a few people who posted here just f*cked it for everyone, cuase im not posting any more renders! in my opinion this model is acurate to the show, and represents bender well. i was previously in a good mood, thanks for f*king it up! Â P.S. be aware that the person in which you speek to is not a computer, but is in fact a Real person with feelings:mad: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twisted Vertex Posted August 24, 2002 Share Posted August 24, 2002 HMM.....interesting......Well here is my two euros. I think you might of help settle a lot of problems with a MUCH better rendor. There are a couple of things that look a bit off, becasue of the poor camera angle. Â Well, I am sorry you can't take critques, thats what happens when you post on the internet. If it sucks, well people are gonna tell you it sucks. If its good people are going to oogle over it. If it need works, Guess what?..........people are going to tell you it needs work. Nobody ever said you had to listen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarHawk109 Posted August 24, 2002 Author Share Posted August 24, 2002 dosent anyone listen? i can take critiques, look at some of the first posts on this thread, its just that people are critiquing stuff thats already been solved! and ive talked to others over ICQ and they like just fine, so i know it dosent "suck". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twisted Vertex Posted August 24, 2002 Share Posted August 24, 2002 *sigh*...well I'm sorry, but when it really doesn't quite look like bender, and has flaws, people are going to tell you whats wrong wether you like it or not. The only way to avoid this, is to keep chatting with you buddies on ICQ, who are just being "NICE".... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarHawk109 Posted August 25, 2002 Author Share Posted August 25, 2002 if you can not see that it has 3 fingures i took the liberty of zooming in for you: http://www.boomspeed.com/warhawk107/Benderhand.jpg and a zoom on the head: http://www.boomspeed.com/warhawk107/benderhead.jpg now ive seen some pics of bender and he does have a rather large mouth, and i think the mouth wouldent look right otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midgit Yoda Posted August 25, 2002 Share Posted August 25, 2002 Well now that's all we wanted was a good render. Now we know that the face needs quite a bit of work. So does the hand. I really do think you don't take critisizm very well from what I've seen. You get too impatient with people trying to help and then we get to impatient with you. Just keep it at a cool pace and make sure when more than 1 person tells you something you do it. I know sometimes it is hard to (since I take Critisizm hard too sometimes). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarHawk109 Posted August 25, 2002 Author Share Posted August 25, 2002 well i apologise for the outburst earlyer on, i got steamed cuase i did all that work and got told to restart it, it won't happen again. i will fix up a few things like the face and the hands, but i won't post any renders or pics of the model till the release, which should be soon(maybe next week some time). i really do hope people appreciate the work im doing for this project. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawk_of_war Posted August 25, 2002 Share Posted August 25, 2002 Trust me, if the world thought you should start the model over again, everyone would have said to totally restart, not just one person. Also it is very dificult to tell if a problem has been fixed if you don't do a screenie that shows it fixed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matariel Posted August 25, 2002 Share Posted August 25, 2002 oh man..... Â sorry for the misunderstanding about the hand, but when i say fingers, i mean fingers. Bender DOES NOT have a thumb! just 3 little prongs on the hand and thats it. Â Thanks for the detail renders, now we can see each part closer up. But i still think his 'eyes' area looks a little weird.....take another look at a few episodes and make the comparison Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Jezuz Pie Posted August 25, 2002 Share Posted August 25, 2002 *sigh* Â WarHawk, you Bender model is still far away from looking like the real Bender. I suggest you to visit the following site which contains lots of Bender pictures taken from several episodes. I think with this reference it should be a lot easier for you to make your model accurate... Â Now here it is, the ultimate Bender site: http://www.geocities.com/julietlara/Benderclothes-Season1.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarHawk109 Posted August 25, 2002 Author Share Posted August 25, 2002 okay i think i finaly got it right, with a little tweeking i got it to look like this: notice the bigger render http://www.boomspeed.com/warhawk107/Bender5.jpg i fixed the visor thingy, the torso, shortened the legs, tweeked the arms, removed the thumb, and enlarged the eyes some what. hope this looks right now. anything else that needs revisting?  regards  Edit: oh and i shortened the mouth aswell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twisted Vertex Posted August 25, 2002 Share Posted August 25, 2002 I noticed you model is basically primitives stuck to a slightly de-formed primivite cylinder. It look like you didn't WELD you vertices, you have about 50 really nasty looking seams. The arms are going to be a big one. I know he is going to be running around with his arms out like that. To see what i mean, creat some bones and weight you arm mesh to it. If i am correct the cyliner (AKA shoulder) will pop out of the mesh and look pretty nasty. You can solve this by welding your verts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarHawk109 Posted August 25, 2002 Author Share Posted August 25, 2002 i would but im not sure i know the command line, cuase im using rhino 3d, and it cant animate, however i do have 3d studio, and milkshape, but when i import one of my models in 3ds max it either crashes or freezes up, i know it isent the model cuase it works in all the other 3d programs i have(which is a lot). im waiting for a good tutorial for milkshape that i read part of to get finished. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bleek Posted August 26, 2002 Share Posted August 26, 2002 I think it looks pretty nice. I actually watched the cartoon today...which I never really do:p . Only thing I see is.....isn't his mouth a bit round. Kinda like an oval with flat top and bottom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matariel Posted August 26, 2002 Share Posted August 26, 2002 kewl, thats much better, keep going!  why didnt you start modelling in Max from the beginning if you have it? rhino doesnt support XSI does it? it would've been much easier  meh....its getting better anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.L. Posted August 26, 2002 Share Posted August 26, 2002 No offence mate, but it still doesn't look like Bender, in my opinion. The eyes are weird and the hands are too rigid and shouldn't have edges. Here's a few references pics for you.  http://www.leela.com.ar/miscpics/robothell.jpg  http://www.leela.com.ar/miscpics/helmets.jpg  http://www.leela.com.ar/miscpics/honkingpromo.jpg  http://www.kiki-net.de/futurama/bilder/scans/scansgr/bender03.gif  http://www.kiki-net.de/futurama/bilder/scans/scansgr/bender05.jpg  http://www.kiki-net.de/futurama/bilder/scans/scansgr/bender06.gif  http://www.kiki-net.de/futurama/bilder/scans/scansgr/bender02.gif  http://www.kiki-net.de/futurama/bilder/scans/scansgr/bender07.jpg  http://www.angelfire.com/bc/futurama/images/monacle.jpg  Good Luck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Jezuz Pie Posted August 26, 2002 Share Posted August 26, 2002 Don't bother posting further Bender pics D.L. he'll just ignore you... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Marrakesh Posted August 26, 2002 Share Posted August 26, 2002 Looks much better than the first post! King Jezuz Pie, at least he is responding to the comments and using them not flaming us for saying CC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark_One Posted August 26, 2002 Share Posted August 26, 2002 Sorry about this reply but what is CC ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twisted Vertex Posted August 26, 2002 Share Posted August 26, 2002 Critique and Criticism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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