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    Telltale's Sam & Max games getting remastered

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    1 minute ago, Bennyboy said:

    I've hidden the off topic post. Everyone keep it on topic and keep it nice please.

     

    Nice. Censor the person who is being accused, given the middle finger, and has written nothing offensive. Slightly ironic. But fine, I am not participating in this travesty anymore. Merry Christmas Bennyboy, and the rest of you.

     

    Back on topic.

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    Telltale's Sam & Max games getting remastered

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    18 hours ago, ThunderPeel2001 said:

     

    It was a serious question. Your argument that the people who study and teach these things have never considered something as obvious as the fact that there are disenfranchised white people implies that you've not really taken time to understand the other side. (Of course such a thing exists, and of course it hasn't been forgotten.)

     

    It is not a serious question. It is what we would call a loaded question, akin to "Have you stopped beating your wife?".
    The first part of the question implies that I have not made an effort to understand the arguments. The second part of the question implies that I must be some basement dwelling troll from an echo chamber, traversing the internet, looking for places to leave my racist remarks. This is a worn and well-known tactic used to limit replies to those that directly serve the questioner's agenda.

     

    I have not written what you stated. I wrote 'privileged' white people. I have said nothing about the people who study or teach these things. They are not necessarily privileged nor white.
     

    18 hours ago, ThunderPeel2001 said:

    Someone else here talked about how they were surrounded by people who didn't understand what the wider issue is and I wondered if you were the same.

     

    I think you are confusing the concept of 'understanding' with the concept of 'agreeing'. I understand the arguments perfectly well. I just don't agree with the majority of them. I am not the same as anyone else, and neither are you. This group-identity mentality is really unhealthy.

     

    18 hours ago, ThunderPeel2001 said:

    What country are you from? How old are you? You talk about your culture, but it's very hard to put your comments into context.

     

    This is completely irrelevant to my opinions, and is usually asked in an attempt to discredit someones views based on their geographical location and/or experience. It will not provide you with any meaningful context in this discussion, as you know nothing else about me. I feel no need to dox myself, but since you insist; I live in a Scandinavian country (as I have already stated) and I am in my late thirties.

     

    18 hours ago, ThunderPeel2001 said:

    I posted a video that touched upon the issue of "white privilege" and puts it in some context. You seem to have ignored it? That's a shame because it does a better job of explaining parts of it than I can.

     

    You will have to excuse me if I do not feel obliged or a need to respond to a tirade from a talk show host/comedian, who makes anti-Semitic and derogatory jokes about women on twitter. I do not view Trevor Noah as a go to source for enlightenment on complex issues. But since you ask, no I do not agree with him or the concept of reparations as it is often applied. I believe in equality of opportunity. not equality of outcome.


    I posed a question in an earlier post, which you replied to.

     

     

    "Is T.H.E.M. voiced by verified mariachis?"

     

    You omitted the question in your answer. You seem to have ignored it?

     

    18 hours ago, ThunderPeel2001 said:

    Resorting to insults isn't going to get much of a rise out of me, I'm afraid. 

     

    The reason i wrote 'sobered up' is because I, myself, would never have considered posting such a loaded question without having been stark drunk. Telling someone they are resorting to insults (or even calling that an insult) is laughable, considering the question you posted yourself. If someone wanted to get a rise out of you, I fear I am too late to the party.

     

    On topic:

    I have bought the game, In the hopes it will encourage further Telltale remasters. Unfortunately, I am unable to play it until I can replace my melted GPU with an RTX 3080 without paying a scalper on eBay. On a positive note, I am now the proud owner of no less than three copies of the original game.

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    Telltale's Sam & Max games getting remastered

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    Posted · Edited by Longcat

    1 hour ago, ATMachine said:

    I do think "reverse racism" is quite possible (though frankly it's saddled with an intentionally derogatory term: racism is racism is racism). But as far as its actual reality on the ground it's infinitesimal compared to what people of color have to put up with.

     

    And in the case of the acting world, actors of color have limited opportunities compared to people of European descent, so taking roles away in cases like Bosco feels like adding insult to injury IMO. I have no problem with it. So I did buy the remasters in the end.

     

    On the other hand, I do have a very big problem with the rewriting of dialogue in the remastered version. That's far too close to rewriting history, "Greedo shot first"-style, for my taste. If the originals weren't included alongside the new versions on GOG I would never have bought them.

     

    I guess this is also dependent on if you by ‘acting world’ mean the United States of America. In my country, the number of ppl of color in acting roles appears disproportionately large compared to what percentage of the population they represent. I also do not see many white people in huge acting industries like Bollywood or East Asia. 

     

    It is not about this particular case, it’s just that as a general rule, I like to see that the person who is best qualified gets the job, not the person with the right gender, skin color or similar. Quotas are a bad I idea in general. 

    Telltale's Sam & Max games getting remastered

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    Posted · Edited by Longcat

    I think privileged white people tend to forget that not all (in fact most) white people are not very privileged or powerful at all. The same relationship between privileged and common people exist in non-western cultures as well.

     

    Racism also exists between other races than white and colored. 

     

    I am quite capable imagine feeling a victim of racism myself, it’s called empathy. And the reason I think we should treat everyone the same, not worse or better on the basis of their skin color. 

     

    We we just had a debate in my country where people of eastern descent were told by people with African descent that they were ‘not black enough’ to have an opinion about blackface and should shut up. Of course, this only applied to people who had the ‘wrong’ opinion. I think this is a very dangerous and wrong way to go. 

     

    Edit; Anyway, I see that I got drawn into a discussion I did not wish to continue here, as I view it as unproductive at this point. I think I have said what I need to say on the subject. 

    Telltale's Sam & Max games getting remastered

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    I don’t want to start this discussion again either, but the answer ‘please google it and educate yourself’ is quite exhaustive to relate to as well, and the most common answer to difficult questions I see online. It seems this answer is the easiest when one does not really have any good arguments. 

     

    Anyway, ‘reverse’ racism (I don’t like this term either, it is a nonsense term to me. I suppose what you mean is racism against white people) most definitely exist. And if someone thinks that races or cultures other than white/western ones are not racist, I would encourage them to drop google and travel the world for a bit. I have seen more racism in eastern/African countries than I ever have in western/predominantly white countries.

     

    That questions are exhausting to some people, because they are not able to argue without referring to the entire internet, is really inconsequential in a discussion. 

     

    And Rum Rogers, please don’t ever apologize for having an opinion. I don’t think anyone should apologize if they have done nothing wrong. 

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    Just wanted to say thank you to you all for keeping it alive

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    I dunno, to me it seems the people who are most vocally aggressive in these debate are the ones defending/demanding the changes. But I have not read the reviews in question.

     

    I view it more as a matter of principle, as I see more and more changes in different areas, like art, entertainment and history. And the changes seem extremely selective and frankly, unnecessary, coming from a place of fear of being accused of being associated with the 'wrong' crowd. I am not a fan of such group thinking, nor special rules for certain groups. Thinking in these terms quickly becomes very black and white, if you you'll excuse the expression.

     

    Anyway, I am glad that you remastered the games. I hope you are able to do other Telltale titles in the future as well, with or without the need for specific changes. A remaster of TWAU or Bone would be awesome.

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    Telltale's Sam & Max games getting remastered

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    10 hours ago, Jake said:

    Thanks! I can't update the Mojo post but I will update that in support documentation so it's more clear.

     

    You can get two copies for the price of one :)

     

    Great. So I guess I will have ... 3 ... copies of the same game (4 if you count the physical release) 😛 Is it at least possible to gift my GOG key to someone else if I claim it? I can't really claim a game I already have in my library

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