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  1. Regarding the three pirates (four counting the one with the silver key) that were found dead on Terror Island, I always assumed LeChuck murdered them during one of his visits to the island since his diary mentions roasting smores with Iron Rose over burning bodies on Terror Island. There were tongs and a campfire where the bodies were found, so I always assumed that was the implication. 

     

    I like to think Terror Island was a sort of a retreat area for LeChuck to perform some truly horrific stuff and voodoo magic, to the point that the island itself began to emulate some of that evil. That's more of my headcanon though.

     

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  2. Finished the first tale for Legend of Monkey Island and got through a good portion of the first tale for A Pirates Life last night and had a blast doing both. 

     

    Definitely the sailing portions are a bit of a grind for me, outside of the amazing sea and wave effects. I imagine sailing is where playing with a crew is particularly rewarding, but the onland portions were a lot of fun. 

     

    So many nice Easter eggs. I also really enjoyed some of the lore they added to Melee Island and the Marley family. 

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  3. I got around to downloading the PS5 version last night. I was mainly doing the tutorials and started the Tall Tale for "A Pirates Life" (on Safer Seas) and the game looks absolutely gorgeous. 

     

    The art style really does look like a spin on Monkey Island and something that could fit nicely as an entry. The sea, sky, and clouds all look so real and I got lost several times just standing and appreciating the visuals, especially when it was a day-to-night transition and vice versa. 

     

    The gameplay isn't exactly my cup of tea, but with an art style this good, I easily got sucked in. Also, I really like the partial sense of dread you feel just by sailing, knowing at any second, some leviathan can appear. I'm also really digging the extensive lore, both for the Tales and the larger storyline. Looking forward to diving into all the Tall Tales, especially for "Legend of Monkey Island". 

     

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  4. 10 hours ago, Huz said:

    There was a video on the LucasArts Fans Facebook group showing that a section next to the sliding metal cover flips out to reveal a thin USB stick. It looks pretty clever - too clever for its own good if nobody can figure it out!

     

    Hopefully you can find the video yourself, but if not let me know and I'll track down the link...

    Ah, I see! It flips over to reveal it. I tried to slide it out initially, but you basically just push it and the section flips to reveal the USB. Thanks for the info, very clever indeed.

  5. 11 hours ago, amyristom said:

    Can someone give me the answer: What's the deal with the floppy disc which is contained in the RtMI box? On the Limited Run Games website it is said that this floppy disc will be an "floppy disc styled USB stick". But I'm not able to see the USB connectors or how to open this thing up. For me this simply looks like a fake floppy disc. Can somebody help me out on this thing?

    I think it's indeed just meant to be a decorative, fake floppy disc. I think the USB stick portion of the description on the site was simply inaccurate.

  6. One other, cool little detail I found in the scrapbook, that has some very interesting lore implications, is that on the pages with LeChuck's voodoo doll, next to the torn leg is a note saying, "Use imagination for real damage." That implies that Guybrush did not really do that much damage to LeChuck at the end of that game and was instead his imagination creating the carnage of LeChuck's leg and arm falling off. Makes sense given the context of the games we now know. Especially with them not really being brothers, then it makes sense that Guybrush's voodoo doll would not be 100% effective.


    Taking it a step further to connect with Curse, LeChuck had probably already cast a spell on Guybrush right at the start of the tunnels and Guybrush was seeing what he perhaps wanted to see in the fight, along with disturbing imagery, such as his deceased parents. Boybrush and his friend Chucky add in their own spins and what we have as the ending of Monkey Island 2 is essentially a mishmash of an embellished tale with Guybrush's imagination and unreliable memory and Boybrush and Chucky's own retelling and twists.

     

  7. 5 hours ago, Jake said:

    It sucks that they didn’t do a memoir for the back of the box. Literally all the others did it :(

    Yeah, I was actually half-expecting that Guybrush's monologue from the first trailer ("Pirating is in my blood, like adrenaline, or stale Grog.") would be on the back of the box. Would've been perfect as a memoir. 

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  8. Mine just arrived and everything came in perfect condition.

     

    • The Golden Key and Lure pin are both very well made.
       
    • The scrapbook has some additional jokes not present in the game that made me laugh out loud. A standout for me was next to Wally's picture, Guybrush begins to write, and misspell, "cartographer," and crosses it out to simply write "the map guy." Also, really cool that the section about "Return to Monkey Island" has an additional seal on it for people who want to avoid spoilers until after they finish the game.
       
    • Everything else; the box itself, poster, soundtrack, game CDs, Floppy Disc (which I might use as a coaster when replaying the games), manual, and especially the letter from Ron and Dave are all well made and authentic. Reminds me of the good old days of buying PC games.
       
    • Only gripe is no excerpt from Guybrush.
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  9. Wow, incredibly well-made and a great watch. I got a little emotional at certain parts, especially at the end. Even though it's been nearly two years since Return was announced, I still found myself thinking during my watch of the documentary, "I still can't believe we got this Monkey Island after decades." The documentary reminded me just how many things had to go right for Ron and Dave to be able to make this game.

     

    Some overall, scattered thoughts:

    • Even though Ron has since confirmed the Secret in several interviews, it's always great to hear his and Dave's thoughts on it.
      • Also cool to know that Dave also knew the Secret the entire time, all the way back to the development of the first game.
         
    • Ron's read of "On Stranger Tides" did influence decisions that ultimately got him further from focusing more on the Secret in the first game. That makes perfect sense. It sounds like the Voodoo mythology, LeChuck, and Guybrush were truly born from that read, while the landscape and the Secret itself were always there in Ron's mind during initial conceptualization.
       
    • I love hearing Dom say, "I will always hope for another, but I think this is the first time I feel comfortable if this was the final one as well." That summarizes my thoughts on Return as well. I loved the game, narrative, themes, and ending so much, that I would be okay if this were the final one.

     

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  10. I think the intent at the time was to simply have people talking and theorizing as much as possible, with the audience not even sure if anything they experienced was real (this much was more or less confirmed in the commentary for the special edition of MI2). Ron did confirm that the Secret the entire time was that Guybrush was in an amusement park, but his vision shifted as the first game took full fruition and how he would officially reveal it became a work-in-progress you could say. 

     

    I think in some ways, Ron wanted an ending that harkened back to that original concept/secret without really addressing or answering it head-on either, that's what the third game would be about, and we essentially got exactly that in Return. There was no master plan necessarily, just an ending to get people talking while also layering in much stronger implications about the nature of the Secret. As others have said, how Ron and Dave were able to resolve it in Return is nothing short of amazing and a huge testament to how talented those guys truly are in their craft as designers and storytellers. In all my years of imagining how they would resolve that ending, I never considered the final scenario we got; it was satisfying, emotional and heartfelt, and tied everything up rather nicely while still leaving room for some speculation. The resolution to the ending was always the bigger mystery for me personally rather than the Secret itself and I couldn't be happier with the payoff. It was well worth the decades of waiting and I never thought that would be possible.

     

    In retrospect, I think that ending was Guybrush realizing that he was in an amusement park - his world of fun and danger to shield himself and mind from the true dangers and feelings of his reality of being abandoned by his parents. By Return, he has accepted it, embraced it, and ultimately started a family; it was now our turn to understand it through one more epic adventure through a son bonding with his father.

     

  11. 22 hours ago, MurraySchull said:

    As a side note... has anybody noticed the pattern that Monkey Islands' returns seems to be following?

    MI1/MI2

    *6 years later*

    CMI/EMI

    *9 years later*

    TMI / SE's

    *12 years later*

    ReMI / SeMI

     

    Based on all of this, and assuming another three years are added to the next hiatus, Monkey Island's next return should be due in 2038! Mark your calendars for another two games from then! (Followed shortly by a celebration of the 50th Anniversary of Secret!!! )

    Yeah, Dom also mentioned this during his most recent interview with Laura Cress. I think we might get another game a little bit sooner though (still not for several years though), simply because I think that, despite the series not being the money maker of other franchises owned by Disney, I think the last year has demonstrated just how passionate some internal groups in the larger company, as well throughout the industry, are about this series and I think that might enable more frequent entries. The last year proved Monkey Island has a strong enough fan base to warrant a game every now and then. 

     

    I think we've seen several times now how that passion can sway or even override the corporate/office politics at work. That being said, I'm pretty content with where the series is. With there now being 6 official entries in the series, with the last one being the one so many were waiting for, an entry overviewing Ron's vision for how the series continued from the end of 2, and a spinoff crossover. I would rather a game come out when it has a story worth telling that can expand the lore and mythology in a meaningful way and a team that understands and respects the themes of the series. 

     

    I think that every game in the series has done just that up until this point and Return does serve as a nice conclusion, but also opens up the series to allow many other paths/stories to be taken. It can be easy to use the storytelling nature of the series as a crutch though to throw in any random element, so I would prefer for any future game to have a degree of self-control. 

     

  12. 4 hours ago, Kroms said:

    Discussing where Sea of Thieves fits into the "canon" is deeply bizarre to me.

     

    Also, ReMI is great, even if I have my quibbles.

    Yeah, bizarre but fun. The way the tales were first overviewed by the development team themselves was that it takes place after Curse, so it was already set and it's a cool little detail to discuss on how this can fit, even if it is a crossover spinoff, and not necessarily to be taken as an absolute. 

     

    And yeah, one of the great things about Return is how it opened up the series to allow multiple stories and interpretations without sweating on the details that much. 

     

  13. 20 hours ago, Staple Remover said:

    BUT…If you also told me 20 years ago that Disney would end up owning the Monkey Island franchise and release a game with Guybrush

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    I think I’d break my brain comprehending the entire thing. 

    Honestly, I'm a little surprised Disney even allowed that lol, given how strict they can be. I think the lines about it being simply a ship painted black by Stan were added as a middle-ground, but still was an awesome sight in the opening moments. Sea of Thieves made a crazy "what if scenario" of POTC and Monkey Island existing in the same universe actually possible and yes, to your point, that is pretty mind blowing. Perhaps Guybrush and Jack interacting isn't too far-fetched. Not anytime soon, but who knows, maybe at some point in the future. 

     

    What a year it's been for Monkey Island.

     

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  14. Agreed, though I will admit I do like when the chronology of games is handled with some degree of care, since those references add a lot of charm, but not to the point that it takes away what would be a great experience and story. Both Return and Sea of Thieves did this perfectly. They set the stage, but didn't sweat the details either. 

     

    For example, I don't need them to tell me how the end of these Tales leads into Escape. My head canon has already done that and their team did more than enough in setting it up. I suspect they are also very deliberately leaving themselves some wriggle room in case this isn't the last we see of Guybrush in Sea of Thieves. 

     

  15. With regards to LeChuck's ship, I love that it's a mishmash of his ships from Secret and Curse. All three tales were a love letter to the series, more focused on the first game's locations, but there were so many nice references to the other games as well. In terms of lore, I think this is either the same ship from 1 since it was never destroyed or a new one, since it seems LeChuck has captured countless ships during his reign and made a fleet. 

     

    In Escape, Herman mentions LeChuck sailed away on a ghost ship after destroying his carnival of the damned, so it actually fits well since Legend takes place right after that timeframe, not that canon matters too much since the series is essentially an amalgamation of memory, embellished tales, unreliable narrators and imagination. And I love that - really frees up the series. 

     

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  16. 9 hours ago, JacquesSparkyTail said:

    The wedding scene though is possibly the most threatening lechuck has ever been. Using his magic sword to not only force elaine to marry him but also force guybrush to officiate made him feel truly evil. Not cartoony evil as he’s so often portrayed. This scene was probably the highlight of all 3 parts for me. Not only are guybrush and elaine rendered helpless by lechuck but so are you the player as well as the pirate lord who we know to be incredibly powerful. Lechuck really is a major threat to the sea of thieves here. Chefs kiss. 

    I completely agree. I loved how they handled LeChuck's character and how much of a threat he became by the end. I got big "Rise of the Pirate God" vibes with how powerful he was, to the point that even Elaine herself couldn't outwit him without help.

     

    It's also interesting though because the main villain of Sea of Thieves is Captain Flameheart and he has yet to really do anything to earn that spot in my opinion. While I understand that they are building him up, it's been years and you now have two villains from other franchises in Davy Jones and LeChuck become huge threats to the entire Sea of Thieves, the Ferryman, and the Pirate Lord. LeChuck even threatened Flameheart and planned to subject him as well.

     

    While I have not really played Sea of Thieves, I did explore a lot of the story and mythology and in the course of doing that, I see a lot of valid complaints from players about the main story moving far too slow, especially with regards to Flameheart. He's been resurrected for nearly a year and has not done much of anything beyond threats; a lot talk but not much action to back it up. I think it's time to really escalate that storyline and do something that really solidifies Flameaheart as a real threat, especially after so much buildup and two other villains not even part of the core mythology nearly conquering everything.

     

    I even saw some comments jealous of how well LeChuck, especially his lair, and these Tall Tales in general are being treated and wished that more of that was integrated into the main campaigns and their villains. After seeing much of the main story, I'm inclined to agree and think the main story deserves a little more momentum and payoff. 

     

  17. Saw bits and pieces on my lunch break. Really like what they did with LeChuck: they made him a real legitimate threat to everyone, including the Pirate Lord and Elaine. Reminds me of his role in Tales and how close he came to victory. A sea battle and sword fight with him also tops the Davy Jones fight in my opinion. 

     

    While it was in some ways a loose retelling of the first game, I really liked the twists thrown in and Guybrush and Kate making amends. Overall, seemed like a really solid mini series. 

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  18. Just now, Goury1 said:

     

    The RtMI made me appreciate the "dancing skeletons" scene in a new light too! I actually like to rewatch the scene often, ever since I finished RtMI!

     

    And, perhaps you are right, the mysteriousness and eerieness of the scene are amplified by the fact that we know so little about Guybrush's past... However, I would still like to know more about the truth behind the scene! :)

     

     

    Yeah, it's actually the one question I wish was asked in recent interviews with Ron, but I'm partially afraid his answer would be "It didn't actually mean anything, it was nothing more than a joke at the time." lol

     

    All that being said, this discussion has reminded me again why I love this game and this series so much. So many layers to it, especially in Return. Over a year later, and I'm still constantly thinking about how everything fits together. In other cases, that would be frustrating, but for these games, it's great because there is enough evidence to support multiple theories. Monkey Island is really the one series I know that wholly embraces head-canons in such a unique way. 

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  19. 10 minutes ago, Goury1 said:

     

    I wholeheartedly agree! Boybrush and Chuckie might have given Guybrush's parents the faces of the random couple, but I feel that the whole plot is too somber to be totally made up by two kids. It must have come from a real event in the Threepwood family history. Perhaps, as you suggest, Boybrush asked Guybrush about the grandparents once...

     

    I wish that Ron Gilbert focussed somewhat more on the "Guybrush being an orphan" plotline and shed more light on it...

    I can definitely see that, but I actually love the fact that it's not focused on too much. It's almost like it causes Guybrush so much pain, he almost never wants to talk about it and is using the park, and his embellished tales, to escape from that harsh reality. In a way, the lack of it ever being addressed again, makes that scene all the more powerful and eerie.

     

    That being the one scene where we actually learn about Guybrush's past makes it so powerful for me. After Return, I look back on that scene with renewed appreciation. 

     

    There's no way to know for sure how much of that scene was meant to be taken seriously, but I genuinely believe that it was a lore drop for Guybrush's childhood. 

     

  20. 12 minutes ago, Goury1 said:

     

    Thank you for your reply! Your observation is very interesting!

     

    We don't know for sure if the whole "dancing skeletons / Guybrush being an orphan" plot was made up by Boybrush and Chuckie. We know that the "parents" whom we met in MI2 are just some random couple. but does that mean that the whole plot of Guybrush being an orphan was completely invented by Boybrush and Chuckie too? it's all not clear and very open to speculation...

     

    If Guybrush really is an orphan, it would make perfect sense that his evil alter ego (LeChuck) knows about it...

     

    All three of Ron Gilbert's Monkey Island games actually feel like a trilogy (similar to Star Wars)! MI2 is like Empire Strike's Back, and RtMI is akin to Return of the Jedi. Guybrush finally overcame his enemy, left behind his evil alter ego if you will, and found peace and happiness,.. 

    Yeah, it's all very interesting. 

     

    My thoughts is that even if his son and Chucky imagined the whole dancing skeleton thing, I think it would still speak to Guybrush being an orphan. If they were imagining Guybrush being an orphan, I think that comes from a more genuine place and not wholly made up. Perhaps Boybrush asked if he is ever going to meet his grandparents and Guybrush told him.

     

    The couple at the park might be just how they envisioned the parents for that sequence, but I feel no matter what, there was a deep meaning behind that sequence. Whereas the whole LeChuck and Guybrush being brothers was a clear Star Wars ripoff and was treated as a joke, the whole parents sequence was much more somber by comparison. They might start dancing, but Guybrush seeing them and saying that they abandoned him was a very somber moment by comparison from my perspective. 

     

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  21. On 9/24/2023 at 6:42 AM, Goury1 said:

    It implies that LeChuck was invented by Guybrush as an evil “alter ego”, a different side of Guybrush’s personality.

    I like this read a lot and agree. I even think at times throughout the games, LeChuck becomes a force of nature that even Guybrush's imagination can't control and is truly horrified of him. Like in real life, sometimes our negative thoughts and feelings go rouge and we can't control them as much as we think or would like. 

     

    MI2 in a way is Guybrush's imagination and negative feelings going rouge with LeChuck hunting him, his world gradually falling apart as he notices more about reality (as warned by the Voodoo Lady in the first game) and he feels lost and lonely again because the world that he went to escape into and avoid those emotions is now turning on him. That nightmare with his parents I feel is indicative of how Guybrush felt as a child, they left him and he now feels alone again. MI2 in some ways was Guybrush at his lowest in the entire series, which makes Return all the more heartwarming when you see him with a family, finally happy and content. 

     

    I also think LeChuck knowing Guybrush grew up in an orphanage was also a somewhat subtle hint that LeChuck is a force and villain that embodies these negative feelings of Guybrush. It's no wonder he is his worst enemy, he represents his worst emotions.

     

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