New Armor for Exar Kun

[Muskrat]

i agree the technology was around, and the idea of using it, but no one ever did. in all of those, Kun (and Maul )were the only ones to have stated as being users of it (in the last one he uses a wooden staff). No one used it because it wasn't expected to be needed. And it wasn't. Even Kun modified his only after starting the Sith War (i think..), when he had greater need for a deadlier lightsaber. Your first example says this clearly. No one used it as a weapon, but it was used for training.

[eidospsogos]

oh, come on. read between the lines a little. you should not need to have them spell it out for you to understand what is being said. they stated that Exar Kun had discovered SITH WEAPONRY, in order to modify his saber. which obviously implies that the weapon was once USED by the SITH. how would the thechnology for something exist, without ANYONE EVER using it. It would undoubtedly not be called SITH weaponry had it never been USED by the Sith. things just don't work that way. i am the first to agree that Exar Kun was great. BUT he was not the FIRST user of the light staff. (which the star wars encyclopedia defines as a weapon once USED by the old jedi knights)

 

so, it is obvious that no matter how illogical the idea that exar kun being the FIRST to use one of these is, that you are bound and determined to completely ignore everything anyone might sate that would prove otherwise. you are deadset that he was the first to use it,(and i understand why, i like exar kun too....) even though he would have never even known how to make it had he not been possessed by a sith ghost that knew how to construct it. he was the first to use it even though the weapon is referred to as a SITH lightsaber. implying it was conceived of, designed, and used by the SITH. and there were many many Sith around long befoire exar kun was invaded by one's spirit. and by this point there were practically no sith left at all. so were it to be referred to as sith weaponry, during a point in time when there practically were NO sith, it fits to reason they used it enough beforehand for people to know that a double-bladed saber was a sith weapon. it's not called the kun-saber, now is it. and if the weapon were USED for practice, i am sure occasionally at least one student decided they liked the weapon enough to continue using it.

 

and even without every example i gave that positiively denies that kun was the first to use one, just because only two of the users of this weapon were famous enough for people to know they USED the weapon, in NO WAY means some jedi that no one had ever heard of before might have used one as his primary weapon. i mean would you look back at biblical history and state that because david is the only specific person mentioned as using a sling, he was therefore the FIRST and ONLY person to ever use a sling.

 

and i found the rather flawed history of kun that you cited your unique weapon quote from, and it is wrong in so many aspects it's not funny. first of all exar's saber looked like maul's only in the aspect of it having two blades. nothing else was the same. second, ulic DID NOT lead the republic forces that finally destroyed Kun. when his force powers were stripped away from him by nomi sunruider after he killed his own brother, he was coerced into betraying his master by telling them where his bases of operation were. he then went into exile. by the time he got back to yavin IV the war was long over and kun long dead.

 

AND the site continually refers to Kun's FALL to the darkside etc etc. never once mentioning that when all this began he has perfectly good intentions and was in no way attempting to becaome a sith or gain power in the darkside. he was possessed by the spirit of a sith, and fought it as often and as hard as he possibly could, only resorting to the darkside as a last resort for saving his life. he never completely gave in and stopped fighting until the yavin IV massassi blood ritual.

 

so, i understand why it would be easy to believe, and to want to belive that exar kun was the first to use a saber of this sort. but he wasn't.

[Darth Exar Kun]

for the override to work do i have to start a new game ?

[Darth Stryke]

If you are talking about the armor properties changing, you must either start a new game or use cheats to spawn a new armor since all armors that existed in your savegame keep their properties.

 

 

I check out your reskin-my main issue with it is that the stripes are still there and more obvious than before. Other than that, it is just a bit too dull (as you said) I am thinking I might completely redo mine to be based off of blue instead of brown. Not sure though, have to play around with the colors more.

[eidospsogos]

hey, updated version without the stripes(on the armor if that is the stripe you are referring to).kept the shader effect, and reversed a little of the color washout that had occured. i'm emailing it to you right now. check it out.

[Darth Exar Kun]

Originally posted by BoL_Stryke

If you are talking about the armor properties changing, you must either start a new game or use cheats to spawn a new armor since all armors that existed in your savegame keep their properties.

 

 

I check out your reskin-my main issue with it is that the stripes are still there and more obvious than before. Other than that, it is just a bit too dull (as you said) I am thinking I might completely redo mine to be based off of blue instead of brown. Not sure though, have to play around with the colors more.

i figured out what i doing wrong when i extracted them they created new folders in my override so i had to it from there to the main Override folder

[Hax0redCardz]

So... ummm... is Exar Kun supposed to be better than Revan/Malak/Vader/Palpy? Just curious, since I've never read any EU stuff

[eidospsogos]

Well, i will try my best not to ruffle any feathers. but i would say yes. he has pretty much been one of the most powerful Sith lords ever. while Palpatine succeeded in doing what exar kun could not, he was aided by the one master one apprentice ONLY rule, that was NOT in effect at the time of exar kun. (darth bane destroyed all the sith/dark jedi and decreed that from that day forward there would be ONLY one master and ONLY one apprentice. that way the power of the darkside would not be spread so thin.) exar kun nearly succeeded in gaining what the emperor had gained merely through open war. while palpatine used political maneuvering and trickery to achive his goals.

 

so, i would say yes. though some will disagree with me i am sure.

[pmshand86]

I may have missed it in the thread but where is this armor available? I mean in the game...

[eidospsogos]

you can buy it from the czerka store on korriban. it is past the first desk where the rodian sells cassus fett's pistol. but before you get to the cantina area, take a right into a room with another desk. talk to the man at the desk and ask him to show what he has for sale. exar kun's light battle suit is one of the items offered here.

[Darth Stryke]

I want to offer a SLIGHT disagreement. The one master/one app only rule is strictly for the sith. At the time of palpy, there are still (supposidly) dark jedi floating around. The major thing is that the Dark Jedi could not usurp the sith and there was but 2 sith (kinda like a jedi council in that the sith ruled over the dark jedi) THis is mentioned in many books, for instance Mara Jade began as a dark jedi serving palpy while vader was his apprentice. So there were still dark jedi, but they were under domain of the sith around palpy's time instead of trying to dominate, since Darth Bane forbid that way back when. And by the way, Palpatine is probably the most powerful sith ever. He and only he completely took domain over the Galaxy and decimated the Jedi Order. And George Lucas made up Star Wars and said Palpy was the strongest so, ya, thats pretty much it.

 

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And I also want to add that Palpatine only died because he was betrayed by the chosen one of the prophecy, which stated that When the chosen one kills the dark lord of the sith, the dark lord's apprentice shall fall as well. But as we all know, Exar would have chewed up vader and spit him out for breakfast, and Maul would have as well probably defeated vader due to his superior physical prowess. And Don't bring up how maul died, maul won the fight and obi wan got lucky.

[Shimaon]

Originally posted by BoL_Stryke

I want to offer a SLIGHT disagreement. The one master/one app only rule is strictly for the sith. At the time of palpy, there are still (supposidly) dark jedi floating around. The major thing is that the Dark Jedi could not usurp the sith and there was but 2 sith (kinda like a jedi council in that the sith ruled over the dark jedi) THis is mentioned in many books, for instance Mara Jade began as a dark jedi serving palpy while vader was his apprentice. So there were still dark jedi, but they were under domain of the sith around palpy's time instead of trying to dominate, since Darth Bane forbid that way back when. And by the way, Palpatine is probably the most powerful sith ever. He and only he completely took domain over the Galaxy and decimated the Jedi Order. And George Lucas made up Star Wars and said Palpy was the strongest so, ya, thats pretty much it.

 

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And I also want to add that Palpatine only died because he was betrayed by the chosen one of the prophecy, which stated that When the chosen one kills the dark lord of the sith, the dark lord's apprentice shall fall as well. But as we all know, Exar would have chewed up vader and spit him out for breakfast, and Maul would have as well probably defeated vader due to his superior physical prowess. And Don't bring up how maul died, maul won the fight and obi wan got lucky.

WAIT!

 

Anakin was really the chosen one???

I thought Luke was this entire time!

I've been living a lie!

 

BTW, can one of ya let me know what the filename of Exar's Armor's Texture?

 

Thanks

[Darth Stryke]

Yes, Anakin was the chosen one you will find out the info about the chosen one killing the master and apprentice falling in Episode 3.

[eidospsogos]

there is no luck, there is only the force.

 

but though one can attempt to rationalize why there are still dark jedi in this time period other than the one master and one apprentice, this is only the case because the star wars universe was constructed in a haphazard patchwork, randomly here and there. and so certain things like there being more than two sith in a certain time era, when there should NOT be, occurs because the era was created before the era in which darth bane's concept of the sith came about. basically i think he came about as an explanation for why there seemed to be alot more jedi than sith, but no one took into account these timelines you discussed when there were more than two. sith and dark jedi became synonomous as the two intermingled. and as the sith spcies died out completely, and all that was left was dark jedi that followed the sith ideal, sith and dark jedi become synonomous terms.

 

but what i was mainly trying to point out, was that power wise, exar kun nearly succeeded in conquering the entire universe in open war. while palpatine achieved his domination through trickery and deceit. that was all i was attempting to point out, as it shows the difference in the particular strengths of the characters. in a lightsaber duel, kun would win. in the sheer power they commanded that is debatable. but that is also why i was ponting out the different approaches. kun decimated nearly the entire jedi council by himself in an attempt to free his apprentice. palpatine always relied on others to achive his goals.

 

so, there approaches to conquering the galaxy differed, and though palpatine succeeded and kun did not, this is really due to how they went about their plans, and not who was more pwoerful. i think kun would stomp a hole in just about anyone one on one.

 

as for the chosen one prophecy, i won't even get into that. if you wan't to call vader the chosen one, fine by me. that's debatable as well. after all qui-gon was renowned for huge flaws in judgement. but you could say he brought the force back into balance, as he cut the jedi numbers down to two as well.

[Darth Stryke]

Alright, 2 quick things. First off, Palpatine conquers the galaxy by open war, but he sets up his war by deceit. You will see this in episode 3 when palpy's war starts as the clone wars end. And trying to compare EU to the films is crazy, so I will not debate any further as to who could beat who. Palpatine is meant to be the most powerful, simply because George Lucas designed it that way. And Vader/Anakin is the chosen one. I gave away some episode 3 spoilers about that, but that will be shown as well. When the chosen one (anakin) kills the dark lord (Sidious/palps), the apprentice (Vader/anakin) falls as well, thus restoring balance to the force. Its confusing and can be annoying to those who didn't think/want anakin to be the one, but he is. I am not here to worry about my opinions anymore, because those are different for everyone-but these are the facts as set by the films, so you cannot change that. And Palpatine will shor his full power in episode 3 as well. He will fight and kill jedi and MAJOR SPOILER, he will kick yoda's butt in a sabre duel and that is why yoda goes to hide because even he cannot contend with palpatine. And nobody helps him fight yoda (this is a rumor of course), palpatine does it himself. Power will be shown in Ep3.

 

Also, there were more than 2 jedi at the time of the original trilogy. Even Lucas has said that it was impossible for the sith to kill them all. But like yoda and obi wan, that doesnt matter because they were not really doing anything because they didn't want to die.

[lord_blodgett]

And as a quick technicalaside just to be annoying, ther can be only two SITH, not only two dark jedi.

 

In the EU there are a lot of dark jedi, not to mention other traditions. The Sith just happen to be one of them. OK the most infamous one, but there are others. For example the Night Sisters. of Dathomir.

[Lil' Jawa]

I think ep 3 will either be a complete failure with too much "power show-off" or, an excellent end to the prequal series

This I do know though; ep 1 sucked pretty much overall cept in the end duel with maul and ep 2 was pretty anticlimax the whole movie thru although that is to be expected from a mid-movie.

Anyone know if Lucas really is going to stay to the claim that there will be no more SW movies or is he already planning sumthin(like one happening 4000 years earlier maybe? )

[Supreme-Lord]

Lucas indeed said that he will not make a new movie but i doubt it, because such a big success. I think maybe some 3-4 years after ep3 and he will make a new one

It can be like what happens after luke died....

Well i hope that.

[deadevil]

hi

 

does anyone think about made Exar Kun Double-Bladed Lightsaber?

 

It would be interesting to make an item like this but without bonus like 15000 critical damage or something else.

 

Just a Double-Bladed Lightsaber a little bit more powerful than the others because of its perfect manufacture.

[Darth Stryke]

I loved all the star wars films equally, my favorite 2 (tied for first) are Episodes 2 and 6. I HOnestly think Episode 3 will be my all time favorite once it is done. It will have a LOT of action, but by what I have seen and read, it will be on par with the others (Depending on how much you liked each of the others, how good Ep3 is may differ) By the way, Episode 3 will have the LONGEST fight sequence in Cinematic history. This is the final duel between Anakin and Obi Wan and right now it is 12-13 minutes long according to Rick Macallum (Producer) and Nick Gillard (Stunt Coordinator) 12 minutes doesn't seem like too much until you actually compare it to the rest of the film-thats is a LONG fight.

 

Edit: Oh, by the way, LOTS OF rumors have been floating around about him making episodes 7, 8, and 9. Supposidly They have signed a few contracts involving it and when Mark Hamil (Luke Skywalker) asked Lucas if it was true or not, All Lucas would tell him is to wait and see and that if he did make them, Mark Hamil would come back as Luke Skywalker (And Hamil agreed that he would do it way back then the originals were made) So keep your fingers crossed.

[Hax0redCardz]

Originally posted by deadevil

hi

 

does anyone think about made Exar Kun Double-Bladed Lightsaber?

 

It would be interesting to make an item like this but without bonus like 15000 critical damage or something else.

 

Just a Double-Bladed Lightsaber a little bit more powerful than the others because of its perfect manufacture.

 

I think the Mantle of the Force is supposed to be made from shards of Exar Kun's saber crystal.... at least that's what the description suggests...

[Shimaon]

Hey, can someone let me know what the filename of Exar's Armor's texture is?

 

EDIT: nm, I got it

[Darth Exar Kun]

Originally posted by BoL_Stryke

 

Edit: Oh, by the way, LOTS OF rumors have been floating around about him making episodes 7, 8, and 9. Supposidly They have signed a few contracts involving it and when Mark Hamil (Luke Skywalker) asked Lucas if it was true or not, All Lucas would tell him is to wait and see and that if he did make them, Mark Hamil would come back as Luke Skywalker (And Hamil agreed that he would do it way back then the originals were made) So keep your fingers crossed.

if there is a loving and caring god we will not let this happen there is too much EU content after episode 6 or if it does happen it will be like like that episode of South Park where Lucas and Spielberg re-do Raiders of The Lost Arc and the audience is destroyed due to the sheer horribleness of the new version

[eidospsogos]

as far as 7,8, and 9 are concerned, i read that he had sold away too many rights after the first trilogy, and thus could not make any more sequels due to the amount of history that had already been established.

 

and how can one say, this is this because lucas said so? Lucas didn't even know what a sith was when he called vader a sith in the first trilogy. it just sounded cool. the history of the sith was an afterhtought following the trilogy, and probably only involved lucas's nod of approval.

 

Lucas is not God. he cannot say let there be light, and see that it is good. he is human. and most of the star wars universe was NOT constructed by him.

 

as far as Palpatine is concerned, you could be very right. after all just because no one has seen him fight up until now, does not mean he is not extremely powerful. i just can't really say as i have never seen him fight.

 

as far as the Sith and Dark Jedi, i was merely stating that at the beggining when those initial jedi fell, and fled, or were driven away. they settled on the sith planet and the two groups intermingled into one, until basically they were one and the same.. it states this in-game if i remember correctly. well, then the sith race pretty much goes into extinction. but what happened before this, you have jedi who learn of sith magic and this leads them to the darkside which leads them to the sith homeworld, which brings the two goups together. so in a way the sith were the original dark jedi, and the original dark jedi were sith. then the race goes extinct. and all that is left of the sith is an ideal, that is followed by what.....dark jedi. so i say once again, the two terms are pretty much synonomous. if you are to be a true dark jedi, in some way you are following the sith ideal. and if all sith are in this day and age are followers of an ideal, then what would that make those who follow that ideal. Technically Sith.

[Darth Stryke]

I never said Lucas was a God. But Lucas made up Star Wars, he approves the EU and he makes the films which are the ONLY things I take with more than a grain of salt. The EU is filled with too much crap and contradicts itself far too many times for me to buy into it all, so if Lucas says something goes, well he is right in my book since he made up Star Wars and he does in fact own the rights to it all. If he wanted to make 7,8, and 9 he could and nobody would stop him. Now I am not saying EU is total crap, because there are SOME good storylines like Exar Kun and the Sith wars and stuff. But I only consider the films canon, anything else is taken with a grain of salt as I said before. No offense, anyone who buys into the EU **over** the films is NOT a Star Wars fan, they are simply another Sci-Fi fanboy (or girl) who likes a book that may (or may not) be any good or have any relavance to the story it is based on. Now I apologize if I upset anyone, but it does get annoying when people try to take something that the films establish and simply discredit it for the Expanded Universe. The Films are the bottom line, if EU contradicts that, the film is correct-this is not like Lord of the Rings or something based off of a book, Star Wars is first and foremost comprised of the films. Discuss