Hoth! Tauntauns?

[Doomie]

I didn't mean 'Unreal' I meant unreal as in 'not realistic'

 

Nice avatar BTW. Skaarj, if i'm not mistaken.

[Dagobahn Eagle]

I'd much rather ride a horse to a battle ten miles away then walk there. It'd take too much time and I'd be tired when i got there. Tauntauns are about as much an improvised tactic as snowspeeders or turret guns are.

Nobody said anything about walking to the battle. The way I see this thread going, everything is about using the tauntaun in the battle. "Ride through the tons of snowtroopers to your base". "Go behind enemy lines and steal an AT-AT".

 

Improvised tactics: I never said they were. See "analogies" below and "over-generalizations" above. I said that "saying tauntaunts were used in all situations on Hoth is like saying tow cables were used in every encounter with AT-ATs".

 

[E]agle, you keep comparing [star wars] to battles in the real world. I don't suppose the americans used tow cables against german panzers?

 

It's [star wars], it's unreal. If the rebels want to ride tauntauns into battle, they can. if there are tauntauns on the map, isn't it up to the player to decide to use them as scouts or go on a 'mission impossible'?

You need to learn how to use and understand analogies.

 

Hoth=Battle

Normandy=Battle

 

See what I mean?

 

An ANALOGY compares something to something else. I never said snowspeeders were in France or that Forest Rangers were on Hoth.

 

Read my post more throughout: Saying Tauntauns were used on Hoth is like saying Canadian forest rangers were used on the Normandy beaches. I never said SW=WWII. It's sort of like the saying "don't throw rocks in a house of glass". Now, when I say it, I don't mean that the guy I'm debating is actually throwing rocks in a house of glass.. get it?

 

Tauntauns were not used during the Battle of Hoth. Period. End of story. As for "well, let's throw them in anyway and if you don't like it, don't use it": Bad point. Always has been and always will be. It's something you say to end the debate when you've run out of arguments.

 

Furthermore, you wouldn't need to cross 10 miles to reach the battle. The enemy was right at Echo Base's door step and that was the first sighting ("walkers on the north ride"), which implies that nobody rode on tauntauns after the Imperials had landed.

 

Had the battle of Hoth included travelling over great distances, though (though not in battles), I'd actually want a tauntaun. But the map will most likely be about the battle itself, so no.

 

And I second "who cares? The AT-ATs would just blow them up!".

 

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As for "SW vs. Reality": Well, the Empire is based on the nazis and the fighter battles over Yavin IV is made out of cuts from World War II footage. Just a side note.

[Doomie]

Yes. but Hoth= Fictional battle

Normandy = Real battle.

 

We can do anything we want with the tauntauns (if they're there), be it unwise or not. That's up to the player. And if my tactic works, then who's the one laughing huh? MUHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!.... Sorry.

[Sabretooth]

Originally posted by Doomgiver

I didn't mean 'Unreal' I meant unreal as in 'not realistic'

 

Nice avatar BTW. Skaarj, if i'm not mistaken.

 

Then use the term 'not realistic' next time.

 

And thanks for noticing me avatar. He is Dominator, Vice-Leader of the Iron Skull Clan, Grandson of the Iron Skull Clan Lord and the icon of Skaarj prowess. Oh, and Skaarj is a race of aliens, THE most powerful aliens in the universe!

 

Muhahahaha!!!

 

Yes, and an effective tactic with the Taun-Tauns is to use them as quick vehicles for snipers. Hide away in the fog and shoot, then ride quickly and again shoot, and use the hit-and-run tactic. Of course, taun-tauns will need to be concealed.

That's my plan, anyways.

 

BTW, the Clan Lord is the guy who founded/organised the Clan and the Clan Leader is the current captain of the Clan. The Clan Leader of Iron Skull is Drekorig, Dominator's cousin.

[Doomie]

You could start an SWBF CClan based on that... But wwe're drifting off topic. Your hit and run suggestion would also be m=nice. That's the OTHER way rebels do it.

[Dagobahn Eagle]

Look, this really isn't a question of whether or not the rebels used tauntauns during the battle of Hoth. Did you see that little "car" the rebels rode to their speeders? It was on Hoth in the movie, so by your reasoning, the rebels rode it around on the battle field for whichever purpose. And I guess it's odd that nobody's suggested that the rebels use pod racers on Tatooine levels ("they're in the movies!"). Sure, give the rebels a couple of bottles of wine too. They were in the movie, and you could probably sneak around the imperial flanks and start beating up infantry with them...

 

Look, the question is, should it be in Battle front? In my opinion, no. Look, a division of Imperial assult vehicles that probably weigh hundreds of tonnes (seeing a tank is sixty tonnes), and two storeys-high support vehicles with both lasers, rockets, and grenades... versus mounted rebels with blasters. I mean, listen to yourselves:rolleyes:. Look, study World War II and see what happened when Poland tried using horse-mounted soldiers against German tanks. And those were tanks that today are outdated. AT-ATs are stronger and can take more of a pounding than any tank we have today. Mounted troops versus AT-ATs? When even heavy anti-armour defense turrets had trouble destroying them? It'll be like a hiker accidentaly stepping on an ants' nest. "Whoops, did we just run over something?" "Uh, I think it was a tauntaun battalion. Anyways, ensign, we're approaching the trench and turrets. Be ready to fire our heavy laser cannons..."

 

Since for some reason I can't use analogies from World War II, I'm sticking to Star Wars:

 

Look at the mounted Gungans versus the battle droids. See how they had their butts kicked? And those were infantry units, not AT-ATs. AT-ATs have two laser cannons, two heavy laser cannons, and four feet that each carry the weight of a behemoth that weights something around 400 pickup trucks (that's 100 tonnes a leg. Screw doggies, I want to have an AT-AT on my lap:D).

 

Look, whoever has studied warfare the slightest will know that cavalry is a very ineffective counter to heavy armoured assault units. There's a time and place for everything, OK, and a battle field is no place for horses. Notice how the rebels in Afghanistan ride horses, but never charged Taliban tanks with them?

 

--Eagle

[Drax64]

Originally posted by Dagobahn Eagle

 

Look, whoever has studied warfare the slightest will know that cavalry is a very ineffective counter to heavy armoured assault units.

 

Ok, I have to admit that you may have a point there. But, you guys are just considering using the Tauntauns to just attack at-ats. I know they do pose the greatest threat, but you dont have to destroy all of the vehicles. You just have to complete the objectives. Like in the case of capturing command posts, you could use the tauntauns to slip past the at-ats while the at-ats are concentrating on snowspeeders. You can also use the tauntauns as an anti-infantry weapon (military tactics). Since destroying all of the at-ats wont win you the battle (since they respawn), you have to think of ways to win without the greatest weapons. And besides, Lucasarts have made sure that while the at-ats are powerful, you can still beat them. I wouldnt be surprised if the rebel pilots could take over the at-ats and use them against the imperials.