AJL Posted May 19, 2004 Share Posted May 19, 2004 http://alienjl.homestead.com/files/SFX_Sabers.zip There are small PK3 you can use to test what they look like and TXT file which should help you to add them to the code... Image Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
razorace Posted May 19, 2004 Share Posted May 19, 2004 Hi AJL. I just downloaded that a while ago. I'll have to take a look at it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteShdw Posted May 20, 2004 Share Posted May 20, 2004 The aspect ratio of you saber blade file was off AJL. It was 128*256 when the original is 64*256(i think). Don't know it this was intentional or not and it looked ok ingame. It's just that when changing the saber blade, I find it easier to stick to the standard aspect ratio, because it closer represents how the blade will be drawn ingame. Excellent work, I loved this for JK2 and I love it here. Now if Razor can add this into OJP with RGB support, there are gonna a be a whole lot of happy people out there(even though I myself prefer just the original colors, so I'm perfectly happy with this). ps. is the saber_end shader really necessary? I'm just guessing you use this because you prefer a more softer look to your saber blade, but I think it looks perfectly fine without it. And the difference can only really be seen in screenies, it's too fast to notice ingame. slightly modified version with a different saber blade and no saber_end Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
razorace Posted May 20, 2004 Share Posted May 20, 2004 Why are the trails tips straightlining instead of arcing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJL Posted May 20, 2004 Author Share Posted May 20, 2004 Originally posted by WhiteShdw The aspect ratio of you saber blade file was off AJL. It was 128*256 when the original is 64*256(i think). Don't know it this was intentional or not and it looked ok ingame. It's just that when changing the saber blade, I find it easier to stick to the standard aspect ratio, because it closer represents how the blade will be drawn ingame. Like you say I prefer a more softer look and because of this I needed to make the image little biger... Originally posted by WhiteShdw ps. is the saber_end shader really necessary? I'm just guessing you use this because you prefer a more softer look to your saber blade, but I think it looks perfectly fine without it. And the difference can only really be seen in screenies, it's too fast to notice ingame. Necessary ? Yes and no... If you look at that image you posted where you removed it you can see that the trail looks bit unnatural... (It seems like the saber become shorted during the swing...) But of course you are free to make it look like you like the best... Originally posted by razorace Why are the trails tips straightlining instead of arcing? Because he removed the image which makes it look like arc... And Razor.. Have you checked the code ?? Is it useable/ understandable or complete mess ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
razorace Posted May 20, 2004 Share Posted May 20, 2004 sorry, I haven't had the time to check it out yet. I've been very busy with my consulting project. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
razorace Posted May 20, 2004 Share Posted May 20, 2004 ok, I just checked it out and here's my opinion. The trail behavior is great. The best movie like that I've seen. However, the extra blade outer glow that you added looks grainy and seems very static. Turning dynamic glow on does seem to help a bit. Anyway, if that could be fixed, the material would be perfect for submission. I'd probably suggest that we make it so people can choose the blade and trail style they want. That way some players can play with the original style and others can play with the new/improved AJL style blades. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteShdw Posted May 21, 2004 Share Posted May 21, 2004 Originally posted by AJL Necessary ? Yes and no... If you look at that image you posted where you removed it you can see that the trail looks bit unnatural... (It seems like the saber become shorted during the swing...) But of course you are free to make it look like you like the best... actually the saber staffs and the particular saber used by the Reborn(standard reborn saber) have shorter blades than the standard lightsaber(bladelength 32 instead of 40 I think). I could probably add the saber_end again to create the arc while swinging. I will have to mess with the pics a bit though, because you're version didn't quite line up correctly. I'll mess with it some more and see what comes out . Originally posted by razorace However, the extra blade outer glow that you added looks grainy and seems very static. Turning dynamic glow on does seem to help a bit. Anyway, if that could be fixed, the material would be perfect for submission. Wouldn't this be overwritten anyway if you incorperated the RGB coloring? [EDIT] Added the saber_end for the saber trail arc. You guys were right, it does look better. pic 1 pic 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
razorace Posted May 21, 2004 Share Posted May 21, 2004 Originally posted by WhiteShdw Wouldn't this be overwritten anyway if you incorperated the RGB coloring? Probably not. I don't know how the RGB vs AJL works. I'd like all the issues to be resolved before we merge things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJL Posted July 10, 2004 Author Share Posted July 10, 2004 So... Are my saber tweaks any use ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
razorace Posted July 10, 2004 Share Posted July 10, 2004 Yeah, like I stated early, I think the outer glow graphic needs to be fixed. After that, I'd love to port it in. Especially with the Co-Op mode coming online. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJL Posted July 11, 2004 Author Share Posted July 11, 2004 Originally posted by razorace Yeah, like I stated early, I think the outer glow graphic needs to be fixed. After that, I'd love to port it in. Especially with the Co-Op mode coming online. fixed ? how ? >> "However, the extra blade outer glow that you added looks grainy and seems very static" ?? You mean that "End Arc" ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
razorace Posted July 11, 2004 Share Posted July 11, 2004 No, the actual blade graphic. It's too grainy or something on the outer edge so it ends up looking very static ingame. Especially with dynamic glow off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJL Posted July 11, 2004 Author Share Posted July 11, 2004 Originally posted by razorace grainy ? I don't know what in that blade could seems grainy to you... That color GLOW around the blade may look bit grainy especially if you use green or yellow saber... but the BLADE ? And that dynamic glow... I can't turn it on so I don't know what kind of effect it have... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samuel Dravis Posted July 11, 2004 Share Posted July 11, 2004 I looked at the blade image (inside the pk3) and I don't see how it could be 'grainy'. It must be just how the code displays it. AJL - the dynamic glow give a sort of haze around the blade, making them appear more realistic, and also slightly larger than they are without it on. I can get a comparison pic for you if you want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
razorace Posted July 12, 2004 Share Posted July 12, 2004 By blade I meant the glow. Sorry that wasn't clear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJL Posted July 12, 2004 Author Share Posted July 12, 2004 I assume the problem with the glow is that you can see that it is not one big glow but made of many smaller blobs... ? I don't believe that can be fixed... (How many blobs it uses is defined in RT_SABER_GLOW which doesn't seem to be in the code at all or if it is I can't find it...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
razorace Posted July 12, 2004 Share Posted July 12, 2004 No, it's just static looking. It's not moving or anything so you can see the grainyness of the jpeg source file. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJL Posted July 14, 2004 Author Share Posted July 14, 2004 Originally posted by razorace No, it's just static looking. It's not moving or anything so you can see the grainyness of the jpeg source file. are you using original or somehow modified glow image files ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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AJL Posted July 23, 2004 Author Share Posted July 23, 2004 http://alienjl.homestead.com/files/SFX_Sabers.zip I made some changes in the blade/glow images... ( does it affect that grainyness ? ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
razorace Posted July 23, 2004 Share Posted July 23, 2004 Ok dokie. I'll check it out when I have time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
razorace Posted July 29, 2004 Share Posted July 29, 2004 Ok, I've checked it out. It looks much better and is totally acceptable now. So, how should we handle this? Ideally, I'd like to set it up so that the blade styles are selectable along with the RGB colors. Would you be interested in codding that or should I check with SuperDindon and see if we can use his version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJL Posted July 29, 2004 Author Share Posted July 29, 2004 Originally posted by razorace Ok, I've checked it out. It looks much better and is totally acceptable now. So, how should we handle this? Ideally, I'd like to set it up so that the blade styles are selectable along with the RGB colors. Would you be interested in codding that or should I check with SuperDindon and see if we can use his version. I am not really that good coder... If you want to add in some new stuff I think it would be best if you ask someone else who already knows how to do those things... (And you may also want to check if there are some things in my code for which you know clearly more efficient way to do it...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
razorace Posted July 29, 2004 Share Posted July 29, 2004 ok dokie. I don't particularly feel like coding that stuff in at the moment so I'll check with Dindon to see if we can hawk his code. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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