David Lynch

[JofaGuht]

Hunter S. Thompson is definitely a must

[El Virus]

Hunter S. Thompson is definitely a must

 

I’ve heard about him, but I’m not sure which is his style.

 

Have you read No Logo by Naomi Klein?, that book is sacred for people like me.

 

What book are you currently reading?

[JofaGuht]

K-PAX III: The Worlds of Prot by Gene Brewer. Very good, as is the rest of the series. Most of it is real transcription between the doctor and the patient.

 

Also, I haven't read No Logo, but just gave it a peek at amazon. I'll probably check it out, since I'm working on a series idea called "The Nothing People" that's all about anti-consumerism.

[El Virus]

Also, I haven't read No Logo, but just gave it a peek at amazon. I'll probably check it out, since I'm working on a series idea called "The Nothing People" that's all about anti-consumerism.

 

What will it be like? documentary or show?

[JofaGuht]

It's a sort of speculative fiction idea I had based in a near future where due a society that raises everyone in a "commercialist culture", people's natural instincts (to hunt, to find a mate, etc.) has been replaced with a primal need to buy things. I came up with it when a Catholic friend of mine said that he believes the world will end when people stop having dreams, and I thought it would be awesome to follow maybe six or seven individuals ten years in the future that are the only ones left that still have dreams.

 

It would bring it some science fiction as well because, I don't want to say the word "government conspiracy", but it's something I think about when people talk about the administration we have in a the US right now. Every once in a while we'll have a reporter or writer point to something awful the admistration has done and say, "Conspiracy!" when in fact there are no conspiracies, all the lies are right in front of our faces but for some reason no one notices them, and whenever they stumble upon figuring something out they assume it's being hidden. I think that could be something we explore in the show. The government would do all kinds of heinous things that they wouldn't even need to cover up because the population doesn't bother to notice it, since there's department stores in the way, and news programs tend to get the most ratings when they show stock market progress.

 

But our core characters would notice it. Still, though, I would make the show a little more about interaction between the core group, seeing as disestablishment and hippie folk tend to all have their own agendas. These people will meet and stay together because they are isolated from the rest of the world, but there will still be conflict within them since their needs vary so much. They all share the same understanding of the world, but they all have separate convictions that the understanding supports.

 

But it's just a little writing idea brewing in my head. I probably won't do anything with it until I'm old and qualified enough to produce it. (though it would be quite ironic if this show idea went on network television )

[Shuz]

That's a pretty good premise.

[El Virus]

It's a sort of speculative fiction idea I had based in a near future where due a society that raises everyone in a "commercialist culture", people's natural instincts (to hunt, to find a mate, etc.)

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They all share the same understanding of the world, but they all have separate convictions that the understanding supports.

 

Nice.

It is kind of Phillip K. Dickish; having the necessary amount of political and philisophical content.

 

As for the 'conspiracy theory' thing; sometimes information might be at the reach of anyone, but the way in which it is handled by the institution in charge may make it a conspiracy.

 

If you care to hear my* opinion. The government of your country is keeping a lot of information away from tahe public, and making up a lot of excuses & lies; to begin taking some theories into account.

 

 

But it's just a little writing idea brewing in my head. I probably won't do anything with it until I'm old and qualified enough to produce it. (though it would be quite ironic if this show idea went on network television )

 

I tend to have a lot of these ideas, but I lack the talent or desire to write them down, so they turn out to be forgotten.

 

Lately, I have started to write script-formatted stories, but I have finished none.

 

My problem, though, is that I can create an outstanding world setting (and this is where I include my irony and criticism); but I am too undecided to choose a suiting character or situation.

 

*'my'; possessive form of I.

I, a person who stands against everything that administration has done and will do; and does not live in that country, but on the same continent (a continent that has been divided thanks to them, by the way). Furthermore I should add, that I can be rather biased sometimes.

[JofaGuht]

Lately, I have started to write script-formatted stories, but I have finished none.

 

My problem, though, is that I can create an outstanding world setting (and this is where I include my irony and criticism); but I am too undecided to choose a suiting character or situation.

 

I have told you before of webseries. I will say it again, since it may seem to be a good idea for you. You could work on someone else's show, and the producer will come up with the characters and conflict of the episode, and then you wouldn't have to worry about choosing that suiting character or situation, you could just write the episode and use the good words to support the show developer's ideas.

 

There's a certain community I recommend you check out (you have to register, though). It's http://monsterzero.proboards3.com. It was the place I got into webseries about a year ago, and it's the one currently producing my show Homeostasis. I've learned and grown a lot since the time I've been there. I would suggest freelancing an episode of a show for somebody. There's in fact a particular science ficiton producer who's looking for writers for two of his shows right now that I would suggest.

 

The government of your country is keeping a lot of information away from tahe public, and making up a lot of excuses & lies; to begin taking some theories into account.

 

They come up with all kinds of excuses and lies. But the point I'm trying to make is that you don't have to look very far to realize the words are false. Just pick up a news article from a year or two before and compare notes. I don't think the administration is competent enough to come up with a decent conspiracy, honestly. I don't think they're evil, snidely, people obsessed with power, as much as they are just arrogant and self-righteous people who actually do believe that they are right for the world, for some reason.

 

Okay, maybe it's both. In fact Bush is and arrogant and self-righteous person who actually believes that he is right for the world, and Cheney and his cohorts are yjr evil, snidely, people obsessed with power that use Bush's incompetence to control him. So yeah, not one or the other, just a mix between the two.

 

Man, being homeschooled you don't get to rant as much about the government. This was fun, thanks.

[Shuz]

If you don't mind me asking, how common is homeschooling in the US?

[JofaGuht]

Pretty common. About as common as angry mothers .

 

That's not entirely true. I don't know that many homeschooled people who are doing it because the parents fear and hate the public school system, mostly it's because of stuff like a family that travels a lot or something, where the student isn't in one place or something like that.

 

I think there's more people who were just homeschooled in high school than throughout their whole student careers. I went up until I (barely) finished my sophomore year high school, which is when I told my parents that I was going to drop out and get my GED. They wanted me to get an actual diploma, but they agreed with me that high shool was evil, and we started looking for alternatives. I'm doing online schooling right now (with one or two correspondence courses) and it's awesome. It's a far more comfortable environment.

 

But i don't get to rant and debate as much since I'm no longer surrounded by 2100 people who disagree with me.

 

How about Australia? Not that much homeschooling there?

[Shuz]

No, it's practically unheard of. I know it occurs sometimes but it's mainly because the child is bullied to the extreme at school or the parents have very strong (usually out there) beliefs.

 

Heh, btw I met someone from St Louis on a plane from Chicago to New York just last month.

 

EDIT: P.S. Do you happen to be a good speller? Ha ha. Sorry.

[JofaGuht]

Do you happen to be a good speller? Ha ha. Sorry.

 

The thing is, though I still don't know the exact number of homeschooled students in the US, I know they've been doubling every five years. The stereotype (I assume that's what you were getting at with the "good speller" thing) has completely disappeared. They're pretty much like every other student out there, you know, trendy assholes. Okay that was harsh, but knowing a LOT of people who are homeschooled, not one of them was a "sheltered" stereotype. Hell, the more time at home usually means the more time to grow and sell drugs! (Not me, mind you. I lack the botanical talent )

[El Virus]

I tried to reply earlier, but Internet just isn't working correctly.

 

I have told you before of webseries. I will say it again, since it may seem to be a good idea for you. You could work on someone else's show, and the producer will come up with the characters and conflict of the episode, and then you wouldn't have to worry about choosing that suiting character or situation, you could just write the episode and use the good words to support the show developer's ideas.

There's a certain community I recommend you check out (you have to register, though). It's monsterzero.proboards3.com. It was the place I got into webseries about a year ago, and it's the one currently producing my show Homeostasis. I've learned and grown a lot since the time I've been there. I would suggest freelancing an episode of a show for somebody. There's in fact a particular science ficiton producer who's looking for writers for two of his shows right now that I would suggest.

 

Do you frequent a lot of forums?

 

Seems like a good idea, and I don't mind registering as long as it is free. I'll create an account when I find more free time.

 

But writing things for others just isn't my thing; I would be limited to the idea of the creator, and I wouldn't feel the project is mine. One of the nice thing about writing is that one can build a world of his own; that's just me though.

 

BTW; how is your webseries going?

 

They come up with all kinds of excuses and lies. But the point I'm trying to make is that you don't have to look very far to realize the words are false. Just pick up a news article from a year or two before and compare notes. I don't think the administration is competent enough to come up with a decent conspiracy, honestly. I don't think they're evil, snidely, people obsessed with power, as much as they are just arrogant and self-righteous people who actually do believe that they are right for the world, for some reason.

Okay, maybe it's both. In fact Bush is and arrogant and self-righteous person who actually believes that he is right for the world, and Cheney and his cohorts are yjr evil, snidely, people obsessed with power that use Bush's incompetence to control him. So yeah, not one or the other, just a mix between the two.

I agree; I personally think Bush's a puppet controlled by Cheney and the rest of his advisors, on a way.

 

On my school, you are told to shut up by the teacher as soon as she notices you are about to win the argument; and debating with companions is a waste of time, for they are mostly ignorants.

Besides, I go to a private school and most students are spoiled rich childs, whose political ideology just dissents with mine.

 

What are your feelings on Evo Morales, the newly elected president of Bolivia? I personally think it is the best thing that has happened to America (I mean the ****ing continent, not the ****ing country whose real name is United States) in a long while.

 

Man, being homeschooled you don't get to rant as much about the government. This was fun, thanks.

 

You lucky, lucky bastard.

I envy you, I really do. I hate having to have a principle whom I am const6antly arguing with, teachers which are not good enough for my standards, imbecillic companions, bad conditions, tests; my life would be full without them. High school has me so nervous that I've already had a small barely-serious ulcer.

I've told my parens about homeschooling tons of times, but they hate the idea; besides it ain't common down here. I'm going to keep on fighting, though.

 

Heh, btw I met someone from St Louis on a plane from Chicago to New York just last month.

Have I ever told you that I have a very distant relative in Saint Louis?

 

Finally, they were giving a Charles Bronson cycle yesterday in a movie channel, and I was able to watch The Great Escape and Once Upon a Time In the West. You are right, the latter is a truly great Spaghetti Western; the beginning is too slow, however.

[JofaGuht]

Do you frequent a lot of forums?

Bit of an obvious question, dontyathink?

 

Not many places, actually. This place and the MZP are the only places I'm a frequent suscriber. I love forums (mostly because I write a lot better than I talk), but they tend a huge amount of mean bastards! This place is great (what can I say? Grim Fandango fans are intellegent fellows) and writer's communities are great because everyone shares the same passion. Of course, the mentioned community is much, much bigger than this place, but it's still hard to find users that will flame you for no reason, or even if they have a reason, we're all nice fellows.

 

Seems like a good idea, and I don't mind registering as long as it is free. I'll create an account when I find more free time.

Of course it's free. In fact, a lot of us write so much we should get paid. By the way, my user name there is "CitizenofBalance".

 

But writing things for others just isn't my thing; I would be limited to the idea of the creator, and I wouldn't feel the project is mine. One of the nice thing about writing is that one can build a world of his own; that's just me though.

Teleplay writers totally live on the grounds that series writing is a collaborative effort. Rarely do you have to be someone's "bitch". They let you make suggestions and even come up with arcs for later seasons. Then, when you feel comfortable enough, create your own series and make the ones you did all the work for do all the work for you!

 

Referring back to the topic of film though, it's definitely a collaborative art. It's never really just the director's vision. Everyone who works on a film has something to do with the final product. I believe the concept of an "auteur" is a false one.

 

You lucky, lucky bastard.

I envy you, I really do. I hate having to have a principle whom I am const6antly arguing with, teachers which are not good enough for my standards, imbecillic companions, bad conditions, tests; my life would be full without them. High school has me so nervous that I've already had a small barely-serious ulcer.

Don't think I haven't been there. I came, I saw, and I got the **** out. Crowded, alienated, unindividualistic, confidence-destroying, hellish, crowded, crowded, crowded. Of course, don't get me wrong, there was maybe 1/40th of the teachers who cared, but rarely that matters because the admistrators would walk right in and go, "Don't teach like that!" Because of this, the best teachers always left. I was frickin' depressed when I went there.

 

The only problem is that I don't really share a common enemy anymore. I mean, I trade it for that without a doubt, but I'm sorta a lounging "okay, so what am I gonna do with my life now" sorta deal. I have too much time think, is a good way of putting it.

 

Finally, they were giving a Charles Bronson cycle yesterday in a movie channel, and I was able to watch The Great Escape and Once Upon a Time In the West. You are right, the latter is a truly great Spaghetti Western; the beginning is too slow, however.

 

Yeah I think we had that over here as well, since my dad was urging me to see From Noon til 3, a Charles Bronson, which was supposed to be on. I missed it, but it sounds great.

 

BTW; how is your webseries going?

Haha, don't think I'm not gonna notify everyone on this forum of when it starts. March 6th is when it premieres, and there will be a thread supporting it. Here's an advertisement for y'all.

 

[Shuz]

The thing is, though I still don't know the exact number of homeschooled students in the US, I know they've been doubling every five years. The stereotype (I assume that's what you were getting at with the "good speller" thing) has completely disappeared. They're pretty much like every other student out there, you know, trendy assholes. Okay that was harsh, but knowing a LOT of people who are homeschooled, not one of them was a "sheltered" stereotype. Hell, the more time at home usually means the more time to grow and sell drugs! (Not me, mind you. I lack the botanical talent )

 

Hehe, I knew it was a stereotype, just being cheeky. But anyway, I find the homeschooling idea pretty interesting. Thanks for sharing this info.

 

However, I would have to disgree with both of you on whether I would prefer to be homeschooled or not. The reason is that I could not stand spending that much time with my parents. The good thing about school for me was that it was a refuge from home life and its associations. But don't get me wrong, I don't come from a "broken home", far from it. It's that just I'm a person who needs distance from their parents, especially when one of them is in constant silent judgement and uses guilt as a weapon (issue alert! sorry). But all this is saying more about my family rather than the Australian school system (that's another story).

 

But I can understand how schools can be alienating and soul destroying institutions and why you would want to be homeschooled. Thankfully, my school wasn't too bad in that respect.

[JofaGuht]

Oh are your parents home all the time? I can understand that, then. No, for me, I see my parents as much as I did as when I went to public school.

[Shuz]

Yeah, I didn't make that clear. It can be quite annoying.

[El Virus]

Not many places, actually. This place and the MZP are the only places I'm a frequent suscriber. I love forums (mostly because I write a lot better than I talk), but they tend a huge amount of mean bastards! This place is great (what can I say? Grim Fandango fans are intellegent fellows) and writer's communities are great because everyone shares the same passion. Of course, the mentioned community is much, much bigger than this place, but it's still hard to find users that will flame you for no reason, or even if they have a reason, we're all nice fellows.

 

That is why I don't join new forums, for the amount of jerks they usually contain.

 

Not many places, actually. This place and the MZP are the only places I'm a frequent suscriber. I love forums (mostly because I write a lot better than I talk), but they tend a huge amount of mean bastards! This place is great (what can I say? Grim Fandango fans are intellegent fellows) and writer's communities are great because everyone shares the same passion. Of course, the mentioned community is much, much bigger than this place, but it's still hard to find users that will flame you for no reason, or even if they have a reason, we're all nice fellows.

 

I'll get an account later on, I'll let you know my username when I do so.

 

Then, when you feel comfortable enough, create your own series and make the ones you did all the work for do all the work for you!

 

Tempting. Very tempting.

 

Referring back to the topic of film though, it's definitely a collaborative art. It's never really just the director's vision. Everyone who works on a film has something to do with the final product. I believe the concept of an "auteur" is a false one.

 

Sort of true, it definitely is more collaborative than most forms of art.

The thing with me is that I would like to control and do everything; add that to my undesire of working with/for a big studio.

 

I think cinematography is the merger of arts, and that is what makes it so special. On one hand you've got visual arts, and on the other one music. Perhaps I'm being to vague, meh.

 

I was frickin' depressed when I went there.

 

Uhuh, that's me during the school year.

 

"Put a smile on your face"-"Participate"-"Don't get so stressed, it's just a test"-"Socialize with others", and all of those are what I tend to hear from my companions.

There are only five out of 20 teachers I respect and admire; I am convinced I know more than the remaining 15, or at least that I would live better without them. There was this science teacher who knew a lot (and I mean it); she was forced to resign, some time after I met her.

I have complained about the educative system, but nobody takes me into account. Man, we are forced to learn Business, we waste three hours a week with that subject; if there is something I hate is certainly that.

Another thing that I dislike is the fact that I spend ten hours per day at school, which leaves me no time for other things I would like to do.

 

I've begun to talk about the Home-schooling issue with my parents some days ago, and it seems that the only problem is that my father thinks it's like leaving school. Only thing I need is find out more about it, and I'll spend my last years at home; paradise, indeed.

 

Haha, don't think I'm not gonna notify everyone on this forum of when it starts. March 6th is when it premieres, and there will be a thread supporting it. Here's an advertisement for y'all.

 

I tend to 'scan' the posts before replying, and I could have sworn you were advertising Homeschooling.

 

Nice. The GF community is too small, go big and post it somewhere were more people can notice it.

 

But anyway, I find the homeschooling idea pretty interesting.

 

I think it depends on the individual. There are people who find it easier to just study alone and take a test at the end of the year, like me; and there are others who prefer to be tutored by manipulative teachers.

[JofaGuht]

"Don't get so stressed, it's just a test"

Heh. If that's a saying, be lucky. Our motivational posters were more along the lines of "If you fail this test, you will die of AIDS." I mean, I know it's definitely a huge part of the culture in the US, the "fail now, you'll fail forever" mindset is pushed very hard in the education system. It's like their trying to get us to commit suicide. I'm sure you know the type of student who believes life is over when high school's over, well I have no doubt that school admistrators don't help at all to rid that belief. Ask a teacher why a specific lesson is important in life? Well, it's essential in your studies next year, which will gain both importance and difficulty well into college, so if you don't get it now there's no way you'll make it through college, and we all know what'll happen to you then, right?

 

Hehe, make sure you keep the citizens working hard so they never realize they're working for the wrong reasons.

 

The thing with me is that I would like to control and do everything

Go along with the workings of this guy. He wrote, directed, scored, edited, produced and starred in a very intellegent science fiction film all for $7,000. The film is called Primer and it is in fact quite excellent, yesyesyes.

 

I think cinematography is the merger of arts, and that is what makes it so special. On one hand you've got visual arts, and on the other one music. Perhaps I'm being to vague, meh.

Yes you are being vague because I didn't understand what you just said in the slightest bit.

[El Virus]

Heh. If that's a saying, be lucky. Our motivational posters were more along the lines of "If you fail this test, you will die of AIDS.

"I mean, I know it's definitely a huge part of the culture in the US, the "fail now, you'll fail forever" mindset is pushed very hard in the education system. It's like their trying to get us to commit suicide.

Oh, don't worry, teachers are like that as well. They'll tell you to loosen up if you are stressed, but they'll tell you that you will have no opportunities in life if you fail. That's why I hate school, you know; as well as for the people, but that is obvious.

I was pretty sure that they said was that if you were homosexual you WILL get HIV, and furthermore, that 'straight' people are morally banned from using condoms. Must be the religious teachers of my school.

 

I'm sure you know the type of student who believes life is over when high school's over, well I have no doubt that school admistrators don't help at all to rid that belief. Ask a teacher why a specific lesson is important in life? Well, it's essential in your studies next year, which will gain both importance and difficulty well into college, so if you don't get it now there's no way you'll make it through college, and we all know what'll happen to you then, right?

No, when kids ask that question here, the usual answer is "it will help you in the future. With jobs, you know".

I once asked, "Are we forced to take the IGCSE exams?", to what a teacher said, "No, but you'll regret it once you cannnot find a decent job and die poor and alone".

The whole concept of education has gone down the drain; I do not go to school for a high paying job in a corporation, I go to school to learn. It's only the degree what counts now. ****ing interest driven world I live in.

Go along with the workings of this guy. He wrote, directed, scored, edited, produced and starred in a very intellegent science fiction film all for $7,000. The film is called Primer and it is in fact quite excellent, yesyesyes.

That's swell. I could go for that, but I would need to gather at least one grand to turn my ideas into a film. And a lot of unknown actors willing to do whatever I ask them.

Yes you are being vague because I didn't understand what you just said in the slightest bit.

I'll try to explain it by association.

You know, a good film has got an interesting and captivating story [Literature]; great ambientation and scenery [Paintings]; the characteristics and clothing of the actors may be useful too [sculptures]; and interesting music, or at least scores which go with the type of film don't hurt either [Music] (yes, there can be movies without music or sound. I'm a huge fan of silent cinematography, so tell ME about it).

Any other art form has got all of these?

Yeah, Opera. But I bet you cannot watch that as many times as you want in the comfort of your own home. Besides, Opera requires too much theory.

[JofaGuht]

Ah. Now I understand. If you had said film instead of cinematography, I would've gotten it. Cinematography tends to only mean "photography for cinema" so I could only really get the visual arts thing.

 

I was pretty sure that they said was that if you were homosexual you WILL get HIV, and furthermore, that 'straight' people are morally banned from using condoms. Must be the religious teachers of my school.

Hehe. I was lucky in sense that my public school had very little religion in its cirriculum, but there were still teachers who put their own beliefs into the lessons. Child development was taught by a self proclaimed "Secondary Virgin" (if you haven't heard the term, it's someone who's not a virgin but went to God and God gave them a clean slate....meaning you're supposedly a virgin again). I never took that class but it was also the detention room, and I spent many hours there looking at the motivational abstinence posters, as well as the posters of a birth defect project (which had grotesque pictures to match. I started calling the class "Dead Baby Class"). I mean, I'm surprised the teachers haven't figured it out, but putting a lot of psychological pressure on the students to no have sex tends to just make them want to have sex more.

 

Here's a little angered speech I recited a lot in high school when I got angry about the "fail now, fail forever" mindset, which is basically, let's face it, another way for the education system to say "No sex, no drugs". The main quote is "The choices you make now will effect you for the rest of your life". Now, that's quite a preachy quote, but there's a lot of students who really truly are affected by it. The pressure of always making the right decisions (and of course, acing the tests so you don't die poor and alone) causes all kinds of stress. And the student will want to relieve his/her stress. And what are the two universal stress relievers? Sex and Drugs!

 

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New topic/revisitation to old topic. Read some more of Terence McKenna's "Food of the Gods" in a bookstore yesterday and read a short section about television addiction, and said some freaking thought-provoking stuff about it. (I'm going to try to re-articulate this, and I will do bad because not as smart as McKenna) First he related television to heroin.

 

It dilates time, makes it go by is a different way. And it offers an alternate reality of few dimensions. The difference between hot and cold is something that doesn't matter to someone who's high on herion, it's a reality without senses or sensation. Also herion users will talking about "getting their nod on" which means they will nod off into a state where there is no self, just as there is no self while enraptured by a television program.

 

He went on to talk about how's there more televisions than houses in this world, and that there was a statistic that said the average person watches five hours of television a day. Much like most addictions, people think they are in control of it and how much they watch, and like most addictions that's not true (but we don't notice it because it is such a universally accepted addiction).

 

Then, my favorite part, he was talking about things like content control, sponsorship, demographics (making a story more "accessable") is are ways the government can control your "trips" and make sure they are the way they want it to be. And that perhaps just like the British kept China under control by keeping its population on Opium, they are now keeping the population on television. I think a quote was "nothing like television and a little cocaine to turn the anti-establishment hippie into the consumerist yuppie". He said that would explain why people stopped fighting after the late sixties (and why many of the flower children became what they once fought) because the generation afterwards, especially around the 80's, is when the population gave into the "dominator drug".

 

This really made me think, and made me decide that when I become a filmmaker, I'm NOT CONDENSING ****. I'm never gonna make a "fun light-hearted movie", they may even be almost unwatchable. But just like the most disturbing dreams are the ones that say the most about oneself, my flicks may wake some folk up.

[El Virus]

Ah. Now I understand. If you had said film instead of cinematography, I would've gotten it. Cinematography tends to only mean "photography for cinema" so I could only really get the visual arts thing.

 

"Film" or "Movie" remind me of United-Statesian 'entertainment' products; so I prefer to use "Cinematography" instead. It's all a matter of interests.

 

But there were still teachers who put their own beliefs into the lessons

 

That's a very serious problem. If the pupil takes what he has learnt in class and forms his own opinion without taking the teacher's one seriously, then he is closer to maturity; or so I have been told. But the average uninterested student of the XXI Century, who has no judgement of his own, will buy anything the guy/gal who teaches says.

Of course, you shouldn't go to an extreme, like I, and be suspicious about most of the things history and social sciences teachers have to say.

 

if you haven't heard the term, it's someone who's not a virgin but went to God and God gave them a clean slate....meaning you're supposedly a virgin again

 

That is something I'll never understand about religion.

Believers are allowed to mess up as many times as they want to, and ask for forgiveness later on. Giving place to more and more hipocresies over time.

 

With the excuse that G*d is forgiving, one might as well break every single commandment, and feel free of remorse or guilt.

 

Oh, but if you are a non-believer, you'll burn in hell. I like that idea.

 

I never took that class but it was also the detention room, and I spent many hours there looking at the motivational abstinence posters, as well as the posters of a birth defect project (which had grotesque pictures to match. I started calling the class "Dead Baby Class"). I mean, I'm surprised the teachers haven't figured it out, but putting a lot of psychological pressure on the students to no have sex tends to just make them want to have sex more.

 

More than a couple of acquaintances of mine would like the idea of Victorian-era repression. If I prayed, I would thank 'the lord' every day for living in a liberal family.

 

On a personal level, I think the media takes too much importance on the subject of Sex. It is included in everything, subtly or graphically, from televisions shows (of all kinds, even child shows and movies hint it) to books.

 

What's the only necessary thing for a happy marriage? Good sex.

Screw (no pun intended) being romantic or just having a friend-like relationship with your spouse; all that matters is providing pleassure.

There are many ways of showing your appreciation to someone you love, and making love to them does not make it into the top of my list.

 

But don't get me wrong; I like sex*, however I'm just the kind of person who wouldn't cry or care if he didn't 'get' it.

 

*Or I WOULD like; whatever.

[El Virus]

The pressure of always making the right decisions (and of course, acing the tests so you don't die poor and alone) causes all kinds of stress. And the student will want to relieve his/her stress.

 

Recently, I have acquired a strong desire to change the course of my life, and make apparently wrong decisions in the near future. But not mistaken ones, just the ones that for my relatives would be a real waste; i.e. not going to university or something like that.

 

New topic/revisitation to old topic. Read some more of Terence McKenna's "Food of the Gods" in a bookstore yesterday and read a short section about television addiction, and said some freaking thought-provoking stuff about it.

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He said that would explain why people stopped fighting after the late sixties (and why many of the flower children became what they once fought) because the generation afterwards, especially around the 80's, is when the population gave into the "dominator drug".

 

Man, you are feeding my anti-television stance. This is very interesting.

 

The other day I had a huge argument with my father, just because of the fact that he kept flipping channels without staying on any programme for more than one minute, bothered me (and when something bothers me, my crude sarcasm takes over my quiet personality).

I cannot get it; what's the point of pushing the bottons of a remote control if there's nothing worth watching?

 

Relaxation?, that's why bubble-wrapping-paper was invented for.

 

Do you have any idea on McKenna's background?

 

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Since we are going back to old topics:

 

-Hunter S. Thompson, Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas. Now it all comes clearer. I saw that movie (I know, not the same than reading the book, but the only Thompson title I can get is Days of Ron) at 3 am some days ago, and stayed all the night watching it. I must have realised it was a Gilliam work.

 

-I have bought Brave New World by Aldous Huxley. It seems very promising; if you haven't read it, go for it, it has a very important anti-consumerism point.

 

-I know that you don't like people to recommend books to you, but Camus' The Outsider and The Plague are books you may like. Damn, I adore this writer.

 

-Do you like Kafka?

 

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But just like the most disturbing dreams are the ones that say the most about oneself, my flicks may wake some folk up.

 

I bet you are the kind that likes to interprate dreams, and thinks that there is an underlying subconcious symbology in them. If I could remember my dreams, or furthermore lucid-dream, I would certainy be one.

 

What sort of movies would you like to direct?

 

If I made movies, they would most probably be irrational-symbolical-absurdist stories, disguised in a rational-pointless-political envelope.

[JofaGuht]

Of course, you shouldn't go to an extreme, like I, and be suspicious about most of the things history and social sciences teachers have to say.

I was talking to a Canadian roadie at a concert in Chicago, and he told me about a war in the 1800's between the English/Statesians and the French over Canada that they taught in his (Canadian) school and didn't realize that they didn't teach it in the States until he had spoken to some people...I hadn't even heard of this war. Supposedly they don't teach it because it was the only war we lost(excluding Veitnam since that's after a time when Press wasnt' as important, and of course this one because it just happened).

 

On a personal level, I think the media takes too much importance on the subject of Sex.

I agree to a certain degree. I don't like the commercial manner in which they take importance to it, but (since I will later respond about what kind of movies I want to make) sex used realistically and unapologetically in stories that i both write and read, it gets my interest flowing. Since, the human psyche interests, and sexuality is just such a huge part of the pscyhe, my films will probably have a sexual nature to them (though probably more of a disturbing nature. Darkness rules!)

 

Do you have any idea on McKenna's background

http://deoxy.org/mckenna.htm

 

I follow a lot of his work. He was really very intellegent and quite unique.

 

Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas

Excellent film. It took me until the second viewing to realize how good it was, though, there's a lot of subtext.

 

I know, not the same than reading the book

You'd be surprised. There's not a single line in the film that wasn't in the book. It was a very direct adaptation and they seriously did not change any of the words. Gilliam's visuals, pacing, and camera work and Depp and Del Toro's acting is the only thing they needed to add to turn it into a film. So it's also a really excellent and true adaptation, as well.

 

I have bought Brave New World by Aldous Huxley.

Go back to reply #72 to gain answer.

 

Do you like Kafka?

It's very heavy stuff. I really respect him, but the only thing I've been able to read was Metamorphosis, but still, it wass 60 pages and felt like 200. I really liked it, but his other books hold the same amount of complexity (more even) and then are four times as long. I couldn't get through ten pages of The Trial.

 

 

What sort of movies would you like to direct?

Horror movies where the horror does not lie in the action or the gore or the boo scares, but lies in the characters and their interaction. They would all have a surreal quality that would start accessable and "normal" to get the audiance involved, but then slowly shift deeper and deeper into a realm the audiance is not at all familiar with. Straight stories that bend more and more the further you get, until you're in a psychedelic spiral of fear and hate, but the change would be so subtle that you wouldn't notice it until you're there. The stories would never take place over more than a week and preferably within a single night (can't stand books that and movies that last months or even years). The symbolism and surrealism would not be political but emotional, and I would never over-edit...I would like to keep a single shot going for a good amount of time before I change. The score would be subtle and have as little brass as possible. The character focus would tend to only lie on one character (one person is complex enough, ain't one?). Yet, though the stories would be dreadful, there would be a sense of wonder beneath the dreadful and horrible surface. And the films would always remind how huge and detailed this planet/universe is.

 

And most of all, I would never hold back or dumb it down for the audiance, no matter how "taboo" it might seem to get.

 

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Okay, I sound totally full of myself, don't I?

[Shuz]

That sounds like the kind of dark film I would like to see.