Three60 Posted February 27, 2006 Share Posted February 27, 2006 I was told to rename the topic, that it was misleading, etc. I'm leaving the mod name, but I did put in NO LAND BATTLES, so you better know what it is now. Anyway, this is a mod that removes all land battles and adds some new features, like the Venator, new lasers, new space buildings (Asteroid Mining Facility), and as soon as possible new ships. This is not just another space balance mod, in fact as of now no changes to balance is added. But it does raise the limit of ships allowed in battle to 40 for both sides. VERSION 1.0 Adds the Venator. Adds Fleet Commanders. Adds Asteroid Mining Facilities. Removes land battles. Raises limit of ships in combat to 40. VERSION 1.1 Cuts all build times by 1/2. Adds new graphics for the lasers. VERSION 1.2 Adds the Moldy Crow and a Z95 Headhunter for Kyle Katarn and Mara Jade respectively. TIE Scouts now built at a level one space station. Kamino in Empire and Rebellion version of Galactic Conquest. Mon Calamari Cruiser has a hanger. All Galactic Conquest maps work with the mod. DOWNLOAD VERSION 1.2 HERE: http://www.yagaboosh.com/downloads/SB_Mod_V1.2.rar What do you think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dookie23 Posted February 27, 2006 Share Posted February 27, 2006 If you need help, i'm here. Sounds great, never been a fan of ground battles anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay1717 Posted February 27, 2006 Share Posted February 27, 2006 Is it at all possible you could create a 'Auto resolve' only version in which makes it a viable option (ie, Not having a full army of mualers, AT-AT's wiped out by a single plex soldier) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Three60 Posted February 27, 2006 Author Share Posted February 27, 2006 Is it at all possible you could create a 'Auto resolve' only version in which makes it a viable option (ie, Not having a full army of mualers, AT-AT's wiped out by a single plex soldier) I don't know, but I think I'd have to raise the auto resolve health on things, but I don't know enough about it. If you need help, i'm here. Sounds great, never been a fan of ground battles anyway. I'll need some help for sure. If you can model, texture, all of that good stuff that would be great. I can't do it to save my life. And if you can't that's alright, I'll see if you could help elsewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adonnay Posted February 27, 2006 Share Posted February 27, 2006 It would have been nice if you'd given me some credit for the new laser textures. It may not look much but it took some time too... my time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobogarcia Posted February 27, 2006 Share Posted February 27, 2006 Okay, the lag in the galactic map mode is unbearable. the lasers are cool though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arc9 Posted February 27, 2006 Share Posted February 27, 2006 No land battles?PITTIFULL FOR CRYING OUT LOUD!!!(no offense,man!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popcorn2008 Posted February 27, 2006 Share Posted February 27, 2006 The no land battles of the mod is on purpose Arc9. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arc9 Posted February 27, 2006 Share Posted February 27, 2006 Im trying to point out that its pittifull that nobody works hard enough to notice the wonders of land battles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaxspore Posted February 27, 2006 Share Posted February 27, 2006 ive tried to notice, but the balancing issues keep me away. FOr example i played a short lan battle with 2 friends 2vs1 (me and a buddy vs a rebeal friend) We rushed him with 3 AT-ATS ( the battle was the hoth map skrimish), and he destroyed both with just 5 groups of Infantry, not rocket troops just plan blasters... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Three60 Posted February 27, 2006 Author Share Posted February 27, 2006 It would have been nice if you'd given me some credit for the new laser textures. It may not look much but it took some time too... my time I did give you credit. I put you in the readme, where it has credit given to people who helped in any way, you're in there. I even gave credit to EAWFAN who made the no land battles mod for the demo. Without that I wouldn't have bothered. And I can't see anything good in land battles either, just a big waste of time. And unbalanced. Oh, and I noticed the slowdown too. Who were you playing as? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobogarcia Posted February 27, 2006 Share Posted February 27, 2006 Rebels. And for some reason, maybe its just me, but there were alot more ISD's than usual. And i noticed that i got one tech level up in an event, which i liked. I agree also. Land battles are not really fun. i only liked them partially because of the locations they had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mandead Posted February 27, 2006 Share Posted February 27, 2006 I did give you credit. I put you in the readme, where it has credit given to people who helped in any way, you're in there. I even gave credit to EAWFAN who made the no land battles mod for the demo. Without that I wouldn't have bothered. And I can't see anything good in land battles either, just a big waste of time. And unbalanced. Oh, and I noticed the slowdown too. Who were you playing as? I dislike the notion of a game such as this having to be 'balanced' in every way. Realistically speaking, what did the Rebels have - be it in the films, games, or whatever - that could seriously compete with the Empire on ground? They have to be given advantages in other areas. Heroes. Abilities. Speed. Surprise. Quality of units. Those sorts of things. I think the Legacy of War mod aims to cover these sorts of ideas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Three60 Posted February 28, 2006 Author Share Posted February 28, 2006 Rebels. And for some reason, maybe its just me, but there were alot more ISD's than usual. And i noticed that i got one tech level up in an event, which i liked. I agree also. Land battles are not really fun. i only liked them partially because of the locations they had. I think the reason for the slowdown is that the Imps, for some reason, are still building land units. I can't figure out why, I took all ground units out of the scenario. I'll try to fix it in the next update. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobogarcia Posted February 28, 2006 Share Posted February 28, 2006 I think the reason for the slowdown is that the Imps, for some reason, are still building land units. I can't figure out why, I took all ground units out of the scenario. I'll try to fix it in the next update. Cool. I really like this mod. I think the ground battles got to be a dread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaxspore Posted February 28, 2006 Share Posted February 28, 2006 yep thankx i need to try it otu when i get a chance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Three60 Posted February 28, 2006 Author Share Posted February 28, 2006 The next version will include Kamino for the Imperial mode of Galactic Conflict, and also remove all land units from the others. Sadly I still don't know how to make space stations have the research powers of the Research Center while in the Galactic Map, so all the Imps start at tech 5. And maybe I can add Mustafar... and other planets. Pirates being playable will hopefully come soon too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adonnay Posted February 28, 2006 Share Posted February 28, 2006 It's a wild guess... but probably (as you already suspected) the AI is still building and still trying to compute landbattles (meaning it's trying to find out where to attack) and getting stuck in some routines because you removed all the ground units. Perhaps you'll have to check somewhere deeper... the AI or something to prevent "thinking" about ground battles too. PS: If it's in the readme, I apologize. I personally tend not to read them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Three60 Posted February 28, 2006 Author Share Posted February 28, 2006 I tried that, it didn't help. And the rebel AI doesn't have this problem. It's just that they aren't turned off, so it can think about them. BTW, in the next version I plan to make TIE Scouts buildable with a level one space station. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HomoUniversalis Posted February 28, 2006 Share Posted February 28, 2006 Just thought I'd report my findings here.. I searched the XML files and came accross 'Tactical_Health' in GroundIndigenous.xml and GroundInfantry.xml . The first for the indigenous species, the second for the Empire and rebellion infantry. I reduced the values there to 10%, except for the wookiees, which I gave, I think 20%, so they last a bit longer. I'm thinking about increasing the damage output of plex soldiers, and increasing the cost and buildtime of tanks. When we finally get to modify the maps and increase the amount of units on the field, it should allow us to get some big battles going on, where infantry units will actually serve a purpose.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Three60 Posted February 28, 2006 Author Share Posted February 28, 2006 Okay.... yeah.... Anyway, here's what version 1.2 should include when it comes out this week: TIE Scouts buildable at a level 1 space station. No slowdown at galactic map when playing as rebels. Imperial AI should build more ships. All Galactic Conquest maps will work with the mod. Kamino will be added to the Imperial mode of Galactic Conquest. Star Destroyers, Victory Cruiser and Acclamator will have unlimited fighters (like the Venator already). In 1.3 I'll have added hangers to the Mon Calamari Crusier, Home One, and Nebulon-B Frigate. If you think another rebel ship should have a hanger, please don't hesitate to tell me! Also, Mustafar will be added, and will be located near the Vergesso Asteroids (NOTE: This planet is not included in the code! It won't have a ground map for anyone that is wondering this). 1.2 should be ready by the end of this week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobogarcia Posted February 28, 2006 Share Posted February 28, 2006 I think the rebel assault frigate should also have a hanger and fighters just because its pretty exspensive and powerful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Three60 Posted March 1, 2006 Author Share Posted March 1, 2006 Im trying to point out that its pittifull that nobody works hard enough to notice the wonders of land battles. I just read that again, and I thought of something. I don't actually want to "work" at all at playing the game. Anyway, the Assault Frigate will have a hanger. I'm going to put the A-Wings on the ships, as well as a few Y-Wings and Z95 Headhunters. The Mon Cal ships will probably not have Y-Wings, and have X-Wings instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Three60 Posted March 2, 2006 Author Share Posted March 2, 2006 Sorry to double post, but Version 1.2 is out! What do you think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaxspore Posted March 2, 2006 Share Posted March 2, 2006 i liked ver 1, only thing is wish i could have built more then 1 mining on each planet, that or have it produce double what it is. Ill try 1.2 when i get a chance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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