Xandy Posted December 20, 2007 Posted December 20, 2007 Does the mp sdk have what's needed to raise the max players on the server to greater than 32? If so, is there a further limit? Could I change it so 100 clients could join if I felt like it? Or...is that another thing that we can't do cause it's not in the mp code? I see MAX_CLIENTS defined in the SDK as 32 but it's set in q_shared.h so...I think I'm outta luck...?
Tx606 Posted December 21, 2007 Posted December 21, 2007 Hmm.. I don't think so. But don't ask me.. Just never heard of this. I also doubt the machines can handle it.
ensiform Posted December 21, 2007 Posted December 21, 2007 Does the mp sdk have what's needed to raise the max players on the server to greater than 32? If so, is there a further limit? Could I change it so 100 clients could join if I felt like it? Or...is that another thing that we can't do cause it's not in the mp code? I see MAX_CLIENTS defined in the SDK as 32 but it's set in q_shared.h so...I think I'm outta luck...? No, it does not contain what you need to do so. Just because it is there, does not mean that it would change anything in jamp, only in the 3 modules. So yes, you are out of luck since you don't have access to make your own jamp which allows 100 and even then, I would choose a power of 2 number like 32,64,128,256,512,etc. You would also want to increase the maximum number of entities too, since you want to ensure at least 0 to MAX_CLIENTS are always going to be client entities.
Xandy Posted December 21, 2007 Author Posted December 21, 2007 Thanks. I read the post about this topic that's a couple pages deep in the forum and it explained things. SOL once again but at least I found out early xD.
ensiform Posted December 22, 2007 Posted December 22, 2007 Thanks. I read the post about this topic that's a couple pages deep in the forum and it explained things. SOL once again but at least I found out early xD. SOL? Let me guess, you want an MMO of sorts.
Xandy Posted December 22, 2007 Author Posted December 22, 2007 I've been turning the idea over in my head for awhile yeah. But I doubt JKA is the platform. Well, duh not with a 32 player limit. It's a fun game to mess around with and I was doing some scaling experiments that looked like I could get a map about 25 miles on a side. And it's got swords. I like a game with swords. I want to make something out of it but now I need to think of what while I go look for another engine for my MMO.
ensiform Posted December 22, 2007 Posted December 22, 2007 A map that large would probably not run very well. Let alone the time it would take to compile (and load up). Just look at midgar, it takes like 5 mins to load on most comps.
Xandy Posted December 22, 2007 Author Posted December 22, 2007 Midgard... Right, seen it and I thought something was broken at first so point taken. But it makes me wonder if it wouldn't be possible to pre-load an entire map in the background while a previous one is being played.
dnifan Posted December 24, 2007 Posted December 24, 2007 If you really really really want it, you have to find the hardcoded value in the engine, and edit it with a hex editor. But that would be illegal and not advised for spreading.
dnifan Posted December 24, 2007 Posted December 24, 2007 True, but it at least changes the engine's limit.
ensiform Posted December 26, 2007 Posted December 26, 2007 Hex editing is technically not legal according to your End User License Agreement.
ensiform Posted December 26, 2007 Posted December 26, 2007 Yes I know but don't come around saying "True but..." You are not god here in this community. So try not to act like it
razorace Posted January 3, 2008 Posted January 3, 2008 It's a fun game to mess around with and I was doing some scaling experiments that looked like I could get a map about 25 miles on a side. And it's got swords. I like a game with swords. I want to make something out of it but now I need to think of what while I go look for another engine for my MMO. You're going to have issues with maps that big. At sizes above 2 km (in world), float point inpercision is supposed to cause issues.
dnifan Posted January 8, 2008 Posted January 8, 2008 Dude. State where I say or even try to play being god. Seriously, you think you rule these forums because of your 1,179 posts. I am only saying that you need to READ my post. Lemme point it out again: This is me: Yadda yadda... But that would be illegal and not advised for spreading. And this is you: Hex editing is technically not legal according to your End User License Agreement. I'm sorry, but I think gods should be able to either read better or get a better capability of interpreting text. Seriously though; wtf is wrong with you?
Xandy Posted January 10, 2008 Author Posted January 10, 2008 You're going to have issues with maps that big. At sizes above 2 km (in world), float point inpercision is supposed to cause issues. Serious? That's something I didn't know and will keep in mind for the future. Right now I've been looking into the Darkplaces modded Quake 1 engine. It looks good, and more importantly it loads maps in a flash.
razorace Posted January 10, 2008 Posted January 10, 2008 Yeah, I didn't know about this flaw either until recently.
ensiform Posted January 10, 2008 Posted January 10, 2008 You could probably do away with it with lots of portals (hint/skip) so that its not having to do all the stuff in one scene if you have a big open area and you can also set the draw distance. But even when you get big like that you will have the problems like Midgar which take several minutes to load. (Sometimes mods cant even handle it).
Xandy Posted January 14, 2008 Author Posted January 14, 2008 Is there something I could do to the q3 engine to make it load (equivalent quality) maps as fast as q1-based engines do? There's got to be something different going on between them.
XycaleTh Posted January 14, 2008 Posted January 14, 2008 Unless you have the specific code for the engine used by JKA, then I don't think you can.
razorace Posted January 14, 2008 Posted January 14, 2008 You could probably do away with it with lots of portals (hint/skip) so that its not having to do all the stuff in one scene if you have a big open area and you can also set the draw distance. Maybe by stacking the level on top of itself? I suppose might work, but it would still have its limits.
ensiform Posted January 15, 2008 Posted January 15, 2008 There's still a height restriction too which is probably the same.
razorace Posted January 16, 2008 Posted January 16, 2008 Right, but it might give you some more space to work with.
ensiform Posted January 17, 2008 Posted January 17, 2008 Right, but it might give you some more space to work with. To work with maybe, but its essentially the same limit as the width.
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