Jedi Dad Posted December 12, 2001 Share Posted December 12, 2001 After completeing the missions, most of which are excellent in design and fun to play, I found it insulting/disappointing/unbelievable that each single player campaign had only 5-6 missions (not counting bonus missions). With the depth and universe that is Star Wars, I would expect (and some what expected) to have no fewer than 10-12 missions each. I am extremely greatful that the developers were wise enough to include a map/campaign editor with this game. Is it just me or is my expectations to high in this one area....? BTW, I do love the game and really enjoy mulitplayer and skirmish games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clefo Posted December 12, 2001 Share Posted December 12, 2001 Well did you ever count the number of boxes in each campaign? and Besides , there's like 35 something missions avaliable.. Thats still a lot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zygomaticus Posted December 13, 2001 Share Posted December 13, 2001 well thats usually it most rts games have 35-45 missions thats pretty high and this wasnt the kind of game that they spent years on:eek: surely more will appear if there s an expansion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedi Dad Posted December 13, 2001 Author Share Posted December 13, 2001 True, but as mentioned, since it wasn't as if the usual development time was spend on this game, a few more missions would have been nice. But I do need to appologize for the negative post, I committed the cardinal sin of posting negaitive messages by not offering a plausable solution. Perhaps on the anticipated (hopefully likely) expansion, the developers will have a contest where fans can create 5-7 map campaigns for a chance to get it included in the expansion as well as receiving a free copy. I would like these user campaigns available within the game, not just in a directory. NO cutscenes are necessary, just a text intro of somekind were the creater posts the objects or background for the current mission. Another plus would be to get ones name in the credits.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chessack Posted December 13, 2001 Share Posted December 13, 2001 Originally posted by Jedi Dad After completeing the missions, most of which are excellent in design and fun to play, I found it insulting/disappointing/unbelievable that each single player campaign had only 5-6 missions (not counting bonus missions). With the depth and universe that is Star Wars, I would expect (and some what expected) to have no fewer than 10-12 missions each. I am extremely greatful that the developers were wise enough to include a map/campaign editor with this game. Is it just me or is my expectations to high in this one area....? BTW, I do love the game and really enjoy mulitplayer and skirmish games. I was not bothered by the number of missions, and in fact have only partly played the trade federation campaign even now. I like random map games much better than campaigns -- more freedom to do what you want, instead of what the game designers want. I will say that as I recall, AoK also had about 6-7 missions per campaign. Perhaps the LucasArts guys could have done more, but they may have merely been caught thinking "inside the box" a bit too much on that one. I don't really think that's any reason to find it "insulting." YMMV. May the Force be with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Supreme Warlord Posted December 13, 2001 Share Posted December 13, 2001 That is a lot of mission to play when you add them all together...Also it takes awhile to beat each mission if you are building a full scale assault base and it takes awhile to raise an army and marshall them there. I like it and the mission are perfect where they are. I think you may be expecting too high but you have your own opnion:) . If a X-Pac comes out then more campagin for you I think. Just putting in my own two cent of this disscussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedi Dad Posted December 13, 2001 Author Share Posted December 13, 2001 Perhaps I wouldn't have found it so insulting if it wasn't finals week and I had to look somewhere else to waste time rather than do school work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Stan|SCN Punk Posted December 13, 2001 Share Posted December 13, 2001 Well, considering that even in the fascinating world of Earth, where there IS actually historical scenarios to be made, a campaign was only 6 scenarios each, and no bonus missions . So yes, I think you are kidding yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Stryder Posted December 13, 2001 Share Posted December 13, 2001 Originally posted by Chessack I like random map games much better than campaigns -- more freedom to do what you want, instead of what the game designers want. I thought it somewhat weird that you like random map games. In a previous post on another thread you outlined exactly how to win against the computer on hardest level. Why would it be fun for you to play against the computer when you are very good and can beat them so easily? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chessack Posted December 13, 2001 Share Posted December 13, 2001 Originally posted by Stryder I thought it somewhat weird that you like random map games. In a previous post on another thread you outlined exactly how to win against the computer on hardest level. Why would it be fun for you to play against the computer when you are very good and can beat them so easily? Actually, I outlined how I beat the computer on *Moderate* level, which on AoK I only managed to do about 3/5ths of the time. So far in GB, I've been much better at winning on Moderate level, I think in part because I'm playing it on a better computer and therefore can have a larger population size. I'm planning to move on up to Hard and see how I do there. It also depends very strongly on what civ you have, how many other comp. players there are, etc. I have had all kinds of trouble 1-on-1 vs. the computer even on moderate, at least in AoK (as someone else said, it's one thing to describe how to win, but another to put it into action reliably). So I've done really well when I have a computer ally against 2 other comps, but that's because the ally usually distracts the enemy and gives me the time I need to build my forces. I'm still really slow at doing things, and need to improve my efficiency, though I think eventually I'm getting better. In any case, I still find even moderate random maps challenging, and don't always win them. I just find "start from scratch, build, and go conquer" to be more fun than "start with X, build until Y, then go accomplish Z." But that's my prefernce, needn't be anyone else's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jiro Posted December 13, 2001 Share Posted December 13, 2001 I never even played the campaigns for AOK, I much rather mess with the editor and make multiplayer maps. I'm picking this game up later today and I doubt the single player missions will hold my attention for more then 20 minutes. It would be nice to be blown away by tons of huge engrossing missions but I doubt it's going to happen. Only reason to buy this game is the editor and multiplayer. AOK had infinite replay with these two things and I expect the same from GB ^^ -Jiro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chessack Posted December 13, 2001 Share Posted December 13, 2001 Originally posted by Jiro I never even played the campaigns for AOK, I much rather mess with the editor and make multiplayer maps. I'm picking this game up later today and I doubt the single player missions will hold my attention for more then 20 minutes. It would be nice to be blown away by tons of huge engrossing missions but I doubt it's going to happen. Only reason to buy this game is the editor and multiplayer. AOK had infinite replay with these two things and I expect the same from GB ^^ -Jiro Although I don't play multiplayer due to my net limitations at home, I do agree with the replay factor of AoE, AoK, and now GB. You can play it over and over and over again; it's never exactly the same twice. And the scenario editor is neat, though the map copy/past thing doesn't quite work in an obvious, intuitive way, and it'd be nice if they fixed that (at least in GB, I never edited any maps in AoK). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lord_adelgard Posted December 13, 2001 Share Posted December 13, 2001 I can't wait for the next expansion !!!!! Probably after the ep II I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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