Quoth Posted March 14, 2002 Share Posted March 14, 2002 I'd always believed player models would be dismemberable (ala Soldier of Fortune) although because of the rating and the lightsaber cauterisation there would be no blood. The trailers have been giving me large douses of doubt. It won't be possible will it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Obi Posted March 14, 2002 Share Posted March 14, 2002 I found myself asking the same question after viewing the latest trailer. The game looks excellent, but I still want dismemberment. I thought ChangKhan said that dismemberment wasn't removed, yet in none of the trailers have i seen it. I have a feeling that if it's in there, it A) was turned off for some reason in the trailers or B)Doesn't happen often or is random. I also doubt it'll be in MP which I'd really hoped for. I wonder if Mr.Gummelt could drop by and perhaps shed some light? It's close to release now and I doubt that detail would be too much to ask of him. I'm really dying to know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Necro Posted March 14, 2002 Share Posted March 14, 2002 i want dismemberment also, if they did take it out i say a mod is in order!! whats cooler then slicing a stormtroopers head/torso off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belgirion Posted March 14, 2002 Share Posted March 14, 2002 perhaps it's just an option and they had it turned off in the trailer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digl Posted March 14, 2002 Share Posted March 14, 2002 There is dismembering in the game, 100% confirmed It could be what Belgirion says Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDarkSide Posted March 14, 2002 Share Posted March 14, 2002 I thought ChangKhan said that dismemberment wasn't removed, yet in none of the trailers have i seen it. *********************************** Dismemberment IS in the trailer released last night...it's too fast to see without going into slow motion replay of the video though. It's the scene where Kyle uses Force Pull to suck the stormtrooper in and then cracks him with the lightsaber. If you watch it frame by frame, you see his arm get severed, and falls off behind the trooper. The guy falls to the ground with no arm, but because of the speed, the resolution and the position of you, the camera and the troopers body, you can't see it too well. Dark Side Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squalliss Posted March 14, 2002 Share Posted March 14, 2002 I don't see why they removed it, they had it in the original. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digl Posted March 14, 2002 Share Posted March 14, 2002 hey Squallis you read the posts don't you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TUS_Tomcat Posted March 14, 2002 Share Posted March 14, 2002 lol Digl Sometimes I just dont understand human behaviour! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JediSith999 Posted March 14, 2002 Share Posted March 14, 2002 Its in the game, and BTW i went trhough it frame by frame and I didnt see the arm come off, I dont know if you were high when you saw it (no offence) but i just dont see it. (maybe im high) but I cant see it sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Necro Posted March 14, 2002 Share Posted March 14, 2002 hell, even in JK/MoTS theres dismemberment ive seen hands flying! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_FinnSon Posted March 14, 2002 Share Posted March 14, 2002 I have a feeling that if it's in there, it A) was turned off for some reason in the trailers or B)Doesn't happen often or is random. I choose A, because I have keep saying it all along. Why, oh why would they want to reveal every little "secret" they have up their sleeves? So many previews(one said you could compile a Stormtrooper out of all those limbs that you leave behind you) and developers themselves included have confirmed it will be part of the game and I even remember someone saying PC Gamer (US) had exclusive screenshot showing Kyle actually cutting off arm... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digl Posted March 14, 2002 Share Posted March 14, 2002 and a German mag says you can cut heads... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheJediKid Posted March 14, 2002 Share Posted March 14, 2002 Even if, under the slim chance, it isn't featured in the game I'm sure there'll be some mods that can add it in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Obi Posted March 14, 2002 Share Posted March 14, 2002 I don't like mods very much. I thought that stormtrooper may have been dismembered, because when Kyle's lightsaber passes through his shoulder, there are flames. But I didn't see the arm disconnect from him at all, so I wrote it off as just a cool flaming effect when you hit them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurgan Posted March 14, 2002 Share Posted March 14, 2002 It's also encouraging to see a little puff of smoke from the saber hit as well... hmm... wonder how much work it would be to change the tint of that smoke a bit... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_FinnSon Posted March 14, 2002 Share Posted March 14, 2002 Yeah, there seems to appear smoke or even sparks when Kyle hits someone, so combined with actual dismembering ON, I think they make up the lack of blood which somebody still would like to see. I first thought they would go for black smoking holes in Stormtrooper armor, when shot with blaster(like in ESB), so this is not too far away. It also occurred to me that perhaps there is actual option to turn off dismembering in the menu for those who find it too gruesome or it slows down gameplay during intense fights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nykel007 Posted March 14, 2002 Share Posted March 14, 2002 Good once it's still in the game I'm happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HBK Posted March 14, 2002 Share Posted March 14, 2002 Eh, I'm impartial to dismemberment. If it's in there, fine. It will be like icing for my big, fat cake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PimpusOlympus Posted March 14, 2002 Share Posted March 14, 2002 Hello everyone, 1st post! Great forum... About the dismemberment, I've got the copy of PCgamer that has the armless stormtrooper pic. I went ahead and took a pic of it with my dig cam (scanner isn't working), crap quality, but you get the idea: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclone Posted March 14, 2002 Share Posted March 14, 2002 I can only hope that we can severe away Cyclone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cracken Posted March 14, 2002 Share Posted March 14, 2002 The reason you don't see dismemberment is because the new GHOUL2 system that JK uses is far more sensitive than that used in JK or even SOF. That being said, the reason for lack of severed arms is the fact that the saber never strikes in the shoulder, elbow, or knee joints, probably the only joints that can be dismembered in the game. After all, I doubt Raven would put severed torsos or heads into a SW game rated "T" for "Teen". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yodimus Prime Posted March 14, 2002 Share Posted March 14, 2002 haha! how amusing!! Something about the concept of lightsaber dimemberment is amusing. I feel that i will enjoy this feature to its fullest extent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhenium Posted March 14, 2002 Share Posted March 14, 2002 There is actually dismemberment in the new trailer at 1:11, where Kyle pulls a Stormtrooper towards him and then kills him with the saber. It's a bit difficult to see but if you go through frame by frame you can see that Kyle cuts off the stormtroopers arm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pipe Smoke Posted March 15, 2002 Share Posted March 15, 2002 I really really do wish they'd allow us to cut guys in half, or behead them. Such a missed opportunity. I mean, I don't care about teen ratings! c'mon! and I don't care if nothing so gorey typically happens in the movies (let's not forget Darth Maul though) What it comes down to is an issue of upholding the credibility and the feel of danger that a lightsaber should have... having it burn the walls is a great way to help this. The fact is, regardless of any other factor... teen rating, movie precedent... whatever, the most important thing is that the saber behave how a saber really would if you did whatever you do with it. It's only natural that when the things Lucas came up with are taken out of the hands of his characters and put into our hands... things will happen that will be more gorey than what he would put in the movie. At all costs the credibility and power of the saber must be conveyed. If we are constantly chopping into guys and all they do is fall down, it's still cool yea but is it really a saber? or is it just a glowing knock-out stick? the world may never know. I think the fact that you can justify a lack of blood through the cauterization factor should be seen as a way to not end up being very gorey even WITH all manner of body chopping. They had a free ticket to niceness and took it even further than necessary perhaps. Well I'm not as upset as I sound, know that. I'll round this out with a question, i had been pondering... if you run up to like say, an NPC... or any character in the game for that matter. And you have your saber out but you're not swinging it, and the saber model touches their model, will it kill them? it should. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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