Trouser Jedi Posted April 2, 2002 Share Posted April 2, 2002 Hi I've got a Twin Athlon MP 1600+ in a Tyan Tiger MPX with 1/2GB of registered RAM. It's running on WinXP at the moment (don't ask, I didn't set it up). A dedicated JK2 server gives a "serious error" everytime when starting. I can't start it from the ingame gui because the graphics card is too basic. Ditching WinXP is definitely possible, but that would make idiot boy cry - not a bad thing Does anyone have any idea how to get it going without having to install Win2k Adv Server?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MatrixCPA Posted April 2, 2002 Share Posted April 2, 2002 Could you paste a copy of your command line used for startup and your server.cfg file? A copy of the exact error message would also be helpful, I left my crystal ball at the office by mistake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madrebel Posted April 2, 2002 Share Posted April 2, 2002 run linux Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trouser Jedi Posted April 2, 2002 Author Share Posted April 2, 2002 I've tried alsorts of things including different config files, fiddling with different options in the shortcut to start the server etc and it never ever gets past "...detecting CPU, found AMD w/ 3DNow!". So, I'm rapidly coming to the conclusion that JK2 doesn't like Athlon MP's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MatrixCPA Posted April 2, 2002 Share Posted April 2, 2002 I've read about various people having trouble with SMP when running Q3 based games as a client...but the number of server admins is substantially lower than players. Sadly, my experience with SMP is minimal and I can only hope someone more in the "know" comes along to assist you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spoonerUK Posted April 3, 2002 Share Posted April 3, 2002 im an MCSE working in a huge environment. WinXP is the most stable OS to date..... question: if you go into device manager, what type of PC does it say? ACPI ? UNI Processor? MPS ? if you have installed XP onto a PC that only had 1 CPU at time of install then added in a 2nd processor after, then NT4/Win2k/XP will NEVER make use of the 2nd CPU, you will need to install your OS again, with the CPUs present...... incidently, athlons, duel or otherwise, arent the most stable of platform. intel rule in the multi processor league..... ... and before i get flamed, my main machine is an athlon axia Y core @ 1.33ghz on an ASUS A7V133, with 768Mb ram, running 2k and XP....... but my server? thats a p 3 800 on an ASUS CUSL2... never gives me any grief.... as for advance server? Windows 2000 pro supports up to 2 cpu's, XP pro supports 2, Windows 2000 server supports up to 4, and advanced server supports up to 32 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trouser Jedi Posted April 3, 2002 Author Share Posted April 3, 2002 ACPI Multiprocessor PC WinXP was installed with both cpu's present and they're correctly detected. I realize that Intel boards etc are way ahead in multi processor systems, but seeing as how I work in R&D we get to play with alsorts of wierd and wonderful toys. This particular machine will probably be set up as our own private server for company wide lunch break deathmatches Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuvix Posted April 4, 2002 Share Posted April 4, 2002 quote from the dedicated server faq You CAN run dedicated from the game, but for those of us who don't have a 3D card in the box, that's impossible. To run a dedicated you have to add the +set dedicated 1 (for lan, i think) and 2 for internet server tag to the jk2mp.exe shortcut. One problem I found is that it still requires the CD when it's running dedicated! Don't understand that one. This is all using Windows 2000 Adv. Server. If you run a server from the game, you can go into the "base" directory and look for the "jk2mp.cfg" file. This file as a list of the commands it loads. I would say look through that file and find tags. A lot of them are Q3 tags. although i don't know if the dedicated server support multiprocessing but there is a special command to enable the smp support, i think you should search a little bit in this forum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r00d Posted April 6, 2002 Share Posted April 6, 2002 Originally posted by spoonerUK im an MCSE working in a huge environment. if you have installed XP onto a PC that only had 1 CPU at time of install then added in a 2nd processor after, then NT4/Win2k/XP will NEVER make use of the 2nd CPU, you will need to install your OS again, with the CPUs present...... Shame on you! You should review your 70-210 and 70-215 core exams, because you certainly CAN add SMP when you upgrade from 1 to >1 CPU! r00d/MCSE WIN2K Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trouser Jedi Posted April 17, 2002 Author Share Posted April 17, 2002 I've had absolutely no luck getting this machine to run a JK2 dedicated. In fact, it won't run a server at all. Single player is fine, but as soon as I try anything multiplayer (other than joining another server) it spits the dummy. I've tried enabling SMP etc using "r_smp 1" in various places, but to no avail. I've combed heaps of Quake 3 sites about SMP and no luck. If anybody has any idea's then please, let me know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDSport323 Posted April 17, 2002 Share Posted April 17, 2002 Im having the same problem you are with Dual MP 1900+ on a Gigabyte motherboard.. I was able to setup a server, but, that crashes aafter 10 minutes... pissing me off but, I can't get the game to run... EVER, single player works, Mp doesnt work at all.. oh well, if u figure it out let me know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Novus Posted April 17, 2002 Share Posted April 17, 2002 You do realize that smp is only available for the renderer. Even then I believe it's broken somewhat. Have you tried running the setup w/ just a single proc? What about downloading the dedicated server only binary and copying over the asset files? Exhaust your options on the windows platform and then try out a flavor of linux. Command line/server configs would also be helpful. Also, isn't there a multiprocessor mode other than APCI? I think I remember having to deal with that when I had dual celeron 450s. You might want to look into it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilpeno Posted April 18, 2002 Share Posted April 18, 2002 I have jk2 running a linux smp server, PII 350 and it works just fine for me with standard configs.. you can force SMP with the following config variable: // 0 = no, 1 = yes (Default: 0) seta r_smp "0" I've run it with and without that setting.. maybe it's just an AMD bug? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wacko Posted April 18, 2002 Share Posted April 18, 2002 I am having the same problem. Multiplayer will not load at all. My system is a dual amd mp 1600+. I have installed 2k pro, 2k server, and xp pro and it makes no diffrence. I even tried the onecpu boot switch. If I am in xp then it gives this app causes and error crap. If you look into the details it list that the app(jk2mp.exe) is tring to use amd cpu extentions and then it list the amd mp extentions and since they don't match the app just crashes. It looks like jk2mp is tring to load with the amd xp extentions. Which can't be used on MP processors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Novus Posted April 18, 2002 Share Posted April 18, 2002 Could one of you try out the jk2ded.exe? It might not load any extension at all since I believe most of the extension are only used in the renderer anyways. Much like SMP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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