difference between a dark jedi and a sith?

[littleboynb]

i thought they were same thing, until i saw "sith has been exntict for blah blah" so it is impossible for desann to be a sith. in objective tab, it says "defeat dark jedi desann" so sith only existed in the sith wars and darth vader/emperor? can anyone clarify this?

[Valdarious]

There has been alot of talk about that subject, people still talk about it alot in the Star Wars forums on the SW site. I am not really sure what to think but I know alot of people have their opinions.

[Jedwahl]

IMHO I think it can be assumed that the Sith was an actual specific culture that happened to follow the Dark Side, and was prominent in history for whatever reason. A "dark jedi" could well be any random force-user with evil intentions, but who is not of the Sith culture. Jerec was an evil jerk with strong Dark Side powers, while Vader had actually been indoctrinated into the actual Sith order itself.

[Iodius]

The Sith, to my understanding, where an extremist cult of Dark Jedi. Vader and Palpatine were the last (known) surviving members.

 

Dark Jedis, like Dessann, where never in the cult of the Sith, but used the force for evil intentions.

[BrainStorm]

To be a sith, you would have had to be a sith apprentice and then when your master died or was killed, (or you killed them) then you would become the Master. Since Vader and The Emporer died one after the other, that would mean that the Sith are indeed extinct.

 

Now a Jedi could try to follow their teachings but IMHO the order is dead.

[Pvt_Dancer]

Don't they say in Ep1 that there are always only two... a teacher and a master? Thats some small cult!!!

 

Then how could Vadar be Dark Lord of the Sith when there are only two and the other would be the Emporer? I guess Im confused.

[BrainStorm]

"Always two there are."

"A master, and an apprentice."

"No more, no less."

 

Vader was a Dark Lord, but he was still The Emporer's sith apprentice, until he killed him, and then he became the master but then died from... well u know the rest.

[Rajess MoDuron]

This is what makes sense to me.

 

This is also what has been said by pretty canonical sources...although feel free to argue with me as I can't come up with the source at this moment.

 

There is no such thing as Dark Jedi.

 

Jedi use the Light Side.

 

Sith use the Dark Side.

 

The only time Dark Jedi could ever be used that I can see is if a former Jedi turned to the Dark Side. Jedi is a society, it is a way of life, and the Sith, or force users who are dark from the beginning, never go down that path to begin with. The name Jedi does not apply to them anymore than Christian would apply to me. Calling a Sith or dark force user a Dark Jedi would be not too dissimilar from calling me a Jewish Christian. Anyway, that's just how I see it. Disagree if you want with my justification, but there is no such thing as a Dark Jedi. You'd have to be a Jedi first.

 

Seth

[Rajess MoDuron]

Jedi like Desann fall under the category of Fallen Jedi. Jedi who have been trained to follow the light, but have fallen to the dark. They have no Sith training, and therefore cannot be called Sith. They merely use the Dark Side instinctually, much like Anakin will in Episode 2 if he uses it.

 

Now, you ask "well then what about Dooku and Anakin when he becomes Vader?"

 

The answer to that is simple. Dooku WAS a Jedi, left the order, and became apprentice to Darth Sidious. He recieved Sith training (although it is hinted he had always 'dabbled' in it) and changed from a Fallen Jedi to a Sith Lord. Same thing with Anakin. As soon as you have a Master to teach you the Dark Arts, you are no longer an uneducated Dark Force user, simply using the dark side in the same manner you used the light side, only for personal gain or out of anger.

 

Thanks for listening to my rant,

Seth

[Kylilin]

Dark Jedi

term used to refer to those Jedi Knights who have fallen from the Light Side and become seduced by the power and ease of the Dark Side of the Force. Many of them were Sith masters as well, drawing strength from both sets of lore.

 

Dark Lords of the Sith

any of the most powerful students of the Sith teachings were candidates to become Dark Lords of the Sith, the equivalent of an all-powerful Jedi Master. The original Dark Lords descended from true Jedi Knights many millennia before the Great Sith War. They were cast out for their forays into the use of Dark Side magic, and exiled on the planet Korriban. There, they interbred with the native Sith race, growing stronger and more powerful as a result of the genetic combination. They expanded their realm into several nearby systems, and individual factions grew out of the isolation. The laws of the Sith dictate that only one Dark Lord can rule at any time. A ritual of ascension was performed, with the candidate being subjected to the bites of three deadly insectoids. If the candidate survived - through the use of intense Sith magic - they were declared the next Dark Lord of the Sith. They were forever marked by the bites, with a flaming sun scar on their forehead. Naga Sadow was one of the first Dark Lords to break away from the established ascension rituals, claiming himself Dark Lord after the death of Marka Ragnos without the consent of the other ruling Lords. Several centuries later, Freedon Nadd was unlucky enough to begin learning the Sith teaching under a young Dark Lord, and yearned to take the position from him. It is for this reason that Nadd went to Onderon. The ancient remains of the Dark Lords before Exar Kun were entombed on Korriban. Darth Vader is thought to have been the last of the Dark Lords.

 

Sith

this ancient brotherhood of Jedi Knights split from the ranks of the "lightsiders" when access to the ancient Sith lore was forbidden. The Jedi Council feared that the knowledge of harnessing the Dark Side of the Force would be twisted and used to perform many evil acts. The Sith brotherhood was founded some 2,000 years before the Battle of Yavin by a rogue Jedi Knight who yearned to learn more of the Dark Side of the Force. Together with about 50 followers, this rogue fled the Old Republic and established his own Sith order. With galactic domination on their agenda, these new Sith Lords quickly became distrustful of each other and abusive of their dark side powers. In a short time, they had nearly wiped themselves out again. One Sith Lord remained, a man by the name of Darth Bane. He swore that the Sith would never again vanish from the galaxy, but also made certain that they never grew beyond their means. He established a rigid code by which there could only be a single Sith Lord and a single Sith apprentice. When the Lord finally expired, his current apprentice was promoted and allowed to take his own student. This pairing continued for the next several centuries until Darth Sidious rose to power as the Sith Lord. Sidious eventually took Darth Maul as his apprentice, and hoped to take control of the galaxy by bringing the Old Republic down from the inside. However, Maul was destroyed by Obi-Wan Kenobi, and Sidious' plans were thwarted. Decades later, Emperor Palpatine established Darth Vader as the last Dark Lord through the rigorous training he gave Vader. Following the deaths of Vader and Palpatine at the Battle of Endor, and with the destruction of Palpatine's clones on Byss, the order of the Sith was exterminated.

 

courtesy of "the completely unoficial star wars encyclopedia"

[Guest PissedJedi]

Lol I guess he answered the question.. DAmn your such a Wiseass!

[digl]

http://www.starwars.com/databank/organization/thesith/index.html

[Kylilin]

I'm glad I could be of service

[Vesentac]

Kylilin pretty much nails it.

 

The Sith war was one of the greatest battles that occured 4 thousand years before ...... episode one.

 

If you want to learn about it, Search for "Tales of the Jedi"

[TheDarkSide]

When revealing spoilers about upcoming movies, please please please use the spoiler tags. Unfortunately, I know now more than I wanted to about Dooku

 

TDS

[jun]

lol, it's really funny that because you guys play JK2 you're all starwars FREAKS. i loved the trilogy. when i was a small chap i used to watch it practically everyday...but i dont take it to an obsession...you guys are just freaks.

[Shrew_TFS]

Star Wars fanatics on a Star Wars themed forum?Preposterous!

[Sounds Risky]

Originally posted by Rajess MoDuron

Jedi is a society, it is a way of life, and the Sith, or force users who are dark from the beginning, never go down that path to begin with.

 

Anakin was a Jedi before he became a Sith.

[toolboi]

Ok, your telling me that all the Jedi ever had to do was to wipe out the 2 sith to wipe the mall out?

I guess that this shows you just how weak the light side of the force is... MWAHAHAHAHA.... err...