Master Spiff Posted April 8, 2002 Share Posted April 8, 2002 I was worried I would have to replay the level going in to fight Tavion because I had no shields, full health, but ZERO green. I decided to give it a shot anyway. It took me about 10 - 15 tries, but I got her. Did anybody else find her tough to beat? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thrEEpaGe Posted April 8, 2002 Share Posted April 8, 2002 wow....we all bow to your amazing skills.... they are all easy... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ps2maddenman Posted April 8, 2002 Share Posted April 8, 2002 I have found that using force speed in the single player in lightsaber fights makes the fights extremely easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevanBates Posted April 8, 2002 Share Posted April 8, 2002 Tavion is NOT easy! Even on jedi difficulty, using force speed, and full shield, fullhealth, it took me over 25 times to beat her! I don't know why, maybe its my style, or my stance, but she is NOT easy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Spiff Posted April 8, 2002 Author Share Posted April 8, 2002 My main strategy was to push her off the edge because I didn't think I could trade blows with her. But she blocked almost every push. I ended up pinning her against the edge and giving her a couple of overhead slashes. It took a while, but I have to say I didn't mind fighting her. SHWING! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manickat Posted April 8, 2002 Share Posted April 8, 2002 I don't think you can push her off the edge. I've been using the setforce cheats to up my mind trick level so I can possess the NPCs, and I noticed when you're Tavion, there's an invisible barrier along the edge of the platform that you can't cross. I think it's to keep the battle from ending too quickly, plus the finishing cutscene wouldn't make sense ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DannyDiplo Posted April 8, 2002 Share Posted April 8, 2002 Originally posted by thrEEpaGe wow....we all bow to your amazing skills.... they are all easy... You don't have to try very hard to come across as a condescending prick, do you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Spiff Posted April 8, 2002 Author Share Posted April 8, 2002 I was thinking the same thing Danny. Manickat - That would make sense. If I pushed her off the edge, I couldn't very well choke the info out of her could I? At least push kept off gaurd a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amorpheus Posted April 8, 2002 Share Posted April 8, 2002 I beat her on the first try on Jedi... *shrug* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synky Posted April 8, 2002 Share Posted April 8, 2002 ps2maddenman's right, force speed made all duels pretty much a joke. even just charging in there with it on and hacking and slashing aimlessly could and would win your saber fights Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L'Equa Sinar Posted April 8, 2002 Share Posted April 8, 2002 Originally posted by Master Spiff I ended up pinning her against the edge and giving her a couple of overhead slashes. Well, someone sure knows how to show a girl a good time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thrEEpaGe Posted April 8, 2002 Share Posted April 8, 2002 Originally posted by DannyDiplo You don't have to try very hard to come across as a condescending prick, do you? well geez...he was practically bragging that he beat her without shields......who cares....this game isnt that difficult....im sorry that i pointed that out.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GalacticBulge Posted April 8, 2002 Share Posted April 8, 2002 For some reason, I didn't find Tavion all that difficult. I was on one of the middle difficulty levels (I think the third difficulty level), when I beat her the first time. It only took me 3 tries, but I just hacked and slashed her. I had MUCH more trouble with the first two shadowtroopers. What a pain in the ass they were, hehe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akhilles Posted April 8, 2002 Share Posted April 8, 2002 Originally posted by KevanBates Tavion is NOT easy! Even on jedi difficulty, using force speed, and full shield, fullhealth, it took me over 25 times to beat her! I don't know why, maybe its my style, or my stance, but she is NOT easy! Odd but the only one I found hard was the tool with the yellow suit of armor. I really hate boss levels.. put you in a tiny room, pitted against some tool that you just have to wear down, with no weakness you have to figure out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GalacticBulge Posted April 8, 2002 Share Posted April 8, 2002 Originally posted by manickat I don't think you can push her off the edge. I've been using the setforce cheats to up my mind trick level so I can possess the NPCs, and I noticed when you're Tavion, there's an invisible barrier along the edge of the platform that you can't cross. I think it's to keep the battle from ending too quickly, plus the finishing cutscene wouldn't make sense ... ROFL! I tried that too! I was thinking.. I haven't tried this yet, but when I get home I'm gonna try to take control of Desann and make one of those pillars fall on him. Now THAT would be freakin' hilarious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thrEEpaGe Posted April 8, 2002 Share Posted April 8, 2002 i didnt find any of the bosses difficult on master, but i guess im a condescending prick... =) speed and slash, all i got hurt in a jedi battle was when i accidentally got hit by a little of ol desann's lightning, but then i was off to heal...(heal is so damn cheap it makes everything in the game a breeze...) but im a condescending prick because i didnt have difficulty in the game...heh... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GalacticBulge Posted April 8, 2002 Share Posted April 8, 2002 Originally posted by thrEEpaGe i didnt find any of the bosses difficult on master, but i guess im a condescending prick... =) speed and slash, all i got hurt in a jedi battle was when i accidentally got hit by a little of ol desann's lightning, but then i was off to heal...(heal is so damn cheap it makes everything in the game a breeze...) but im a condescending prick because i didnt have difficulty in the game...heh... I don't mean to be a dick, but I SERIOUSLY doubt you never lost one battle or that the first time you got hurt was by Desann. Give me a break, bro. Do you honestly expect us to believe that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RabidPlatypus Posted April 8, 2002 Share Posted April 8, 2002 um, unless you guys are playing on padawan, I know when I played through the whole game on jedi tavion (not reborns, shadowtroopers etc. ) would counter my force speed with her own force speed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toolboi Posted April 8, 2002 Share Posted April 8, 2002 All the bosses was way easy until I got on jedi knight difficulty, then Tavion is quite hard (harder, for me at least, than Desan). She is faster, stronger, and has more force power. However there are some tricks. 1. The Bullfighter Barring a lucky blow by her that kills me in one shot (seems to happen a LOT) wait for her to attack, side step and sweep. Works quite well. 2. The Cheap Ass ***** (only works in the actual level, not in the pit and you must cheat for max force powers) Jump a lot, and when your in the air and she opens up (swinging or jumping) force pull to send her out of the level (it can be done). 3. Speed, lots of speed Ya, slowing down time rocks. Just dodge behind, use your rolls and keep slashing. I also find those black reborn as hard as Tavion, except for the fact that its so bloody easy to force grab them and smash them on some rocks. But thats cheap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Spiff Posted April 8, 2002 Author Share Posted April 8, 2002 threepage i don't believe i was bragging. i simply mentioned that i had to face her with no shields. you were the one that started bragging. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emon Posted April 8, 2002 Share Posted April 8, 2002 I beat Tavion without her laying a finger on me- What's your poing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thrEEpaGe Posted April 8, 2002 Share Posted April 8, 2002 i have gotten hit quite a lot, but not by jedi .... the reborn and shadow troopers and desann and tavion were not at all difficult...it is not hard to dodge shots or avoid conflicts with them...you simply have to realise the weaknesses in how they react to certain situations and move on those weaknesses.... what i did was first i would always save before a boss...then i would run out and just stand there and move around...see how they moved in conjunction to my moves...then i would start to use force powers...by the time that i had their moves mapped out, i just went back to my save game and defeated them easily... i got hit multiple times by say tavion desann and shadow troopers, but that was just to see how they fought...observing will get you farther than run and slash.... i have played more difficult games.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GalacticBulge Posted April 8, 2002 Share Posted April 8, 2002 Originally posted by thrEEpaGe i have gotten hit quite a lot, but not by jedi .... the reborn and shadow troopers and desann and tavion were not at all difficult...it is not hard to dodge shots or avoid conflicts with them...you simply have to realise the weaknesses in how they react to certain situations and move on those weaknesses.... what i did was first i would always save before a boss...then i would run out and just stand there and move around...see how they moved in conjunction to my moves...then i would start to use force powers...by the time that i had their moves mapped out, i just went back to my save game and defeated them easily... i got hit multiple times by say tavion desann and shadow troopers, but that was just to see how they fought...observing will get you farther than run and slash.... i have played more difficult games.... Hey, that's great you tried to "map" their moves. I can believe that. What I can't believe is your claim that after you supposedly mapped their moves, you loaded up your game and whipped them. Just like that, eh? Sorry, I still think you're BS'ing. So you mean to tell me you NEVER got hit by a reborn or Shadow Trooper saber? I've killed my fair share of Reborn's with one lucky swipe, but I've never gone through every saber battle unharmed, even after learning how the enemy reacts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thrEEpaGe Posted April 8, 2002 Share Posted April 8, 2002 in single player, it is all about conservativeness (heh i think thats a word)... i play with fast in single player....i had to use speed a couple time, but if i got hit by a reborn or shadowtrooper, i dont remember it...i just didnt think that they were that hard....=/ i dont know what else to make you believe me... i didnt commit myself to the long swings of strong, and they just didnt hit me when i used speed + fast stance... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyalGuard Posted April 8, 2002 Share Posted April 8, 2002 Tavion took me more tries than Desann (who I killed completely by accident with a strong backswing - bit of a disappointment that), largely cos she countered my speed with hers and didn't fall over easy. I just held in there, traded blows and force pulled her after I hit her. That dropped her to the floor, then a few over head slashes finished her. Took me five tries to get it right, largely cos I kept trying to choke her (one of my pet hates from JK1 is that the dark jedi could grip you and were in turn immune to your grip, I was trying to see if the same had happened here, of if she was just defending against a percentage of my tries. Never got her with it so I assume that you can't do it.) On another note did anyone see what pulling the switches did on the Desann level? I guess they opened a secret room but I killed Desann before I found out its contents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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