Threetall Posted April 8, 2002 Share Posted April 8, 2002 No response or show of concern by Raven convinces me they are just waiting it out. I returned it to CompUsa of Latham, NY. Raven I suggest you call them. The return desk clerk said they have gotten half of their JK2 sales returned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RabidPlatypus Posted April 8, 2002 Share Posted April 8, 2002 yes they are certainly waiting it out, man the game has been out almost 2 weeks, I better go return mine too... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark_One Posted April 9, 2002 Share Posted April 9, 2002 Lol you returned it and now you're still able to play it. Just like all those other people who returned it. I can't believe how stupid stores are. In my country they won't return it because the game has to be in the store package or it has to be broke. NOW THAT'S SMART Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HBK Posted April 9, 2002 Share Posted April 9, 2002 You DID delete it from your system, right? HBK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Threetall Posted April 9, 2002 Author Share Posted April 9, 2002 No. I am honest. I uninstalled it first. Please don't turn this into a warez debate. To keep with the honest line...I admit I am an addict so I went back and re-bought it (I am so pathetic:(). This time same result, no graphic card detected (gforce3ti200) but now I can play the SP and MP in safe mode. I will take that as a compromise. Don't ask me why its different now, nothing has changed, but I am not screwing with it. I am playing and thats all that matters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FatboyTim Posted April 9, 2002 Share Posted April 9, 2002 I have a GeForce3Ti200 too and have had no problems at all... What's the problem with yours? You do have the latest drivers, right? (FYI - I think I'm still using v23.11, under win XP.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FatboyTim Posted April 9, 2002 Share Posted April 9, 2002 FYI Anyone who has an nVidia card like a TNT2, GeForce anything, etc. should note that the recommended driver version is the 23.11 drivers, not the detonators listed as the "most current" on nVidia.com. When you go to the drivers page, you need to click on "Driver Archive" to get to the 23.11's. Direct links: Win 95/98/ME: http://205.158.109.140/Windows/23.11/Win9x-Me_23.11.exe Win2k/XP: http://205.158.109.140/Windows/23.11/Win2K-XP_23.11.exe The new detonators have problems with drawing black skies in the game as well as other graphical weirdness. A list of all video cards supported and their recommended driver versions are in your Jedi Outcast/install directory in the trouble.rtf file...the troubleshooting guide. Thanks! --Kenn Kenn Hoekstra Raven Software Hope that helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Threetall Posted April 9, 2002 Author Share Posted April 9, 2002 Yeah I tried many different drivers. Its working now in safe mode so I am satisfied for now. I dont know how i will react when i get to the swamp level, which i understand bogs down the game and since I am in rendering I expect major slow downs. But i can always jump past the level and come back to it when a fix is in place. In short , I am playing and happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Threetall Posted April 9, 2002 Author Share Posted April 9, 2002 The game cant even find my card so it really doesnt matter how the driver works in game, as I cant get the game to start up normally. I tried that driver on that link. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nib Posted April 9, 2002 Share Posted April 9, 2002 Originally posted by Threetall The game cant even find my card so it really doesnt matter how the driver works in game, as I cant get the game to start up normally. I tried that driver on that link. That's odd. Do you have problems with any other 3D games? Since DX is on the game CD, I assume this game is using DX. That being the case, the developer doesn't have to do anything special to access the video card, it simple gets it from an enumerated list in the DX libraries. There may be a DX problem with your machine. Have you run DxDiag and verified that DX is installed properly and there are no problems? I know i've had driver issues in the past where certain aspects (like the hardware 3D acceleration) wouldn't be detected by DirectX. The thing is, in today's DX world, the game dev really doesn't have to worry about "detecting" your card, like they did in the dos days. The problem may very well lie elsewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Threetall Posted April 9, 2002 Author Share Posted April 9, 2002 I have XP so I run DirectX8.1. I suspect its an issue with DirectX but Im not a developer so can't offer any reasons why except massive trial and error, and deductive reasoning. I could be way off too. I checked DXDiag and Msinfo, all is well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nib Posted April 9, 2002 Share Posted April 9, 2002 Ah. XP seems to be a general pain in the butt for many people. I wouldn't be a bit surprised if your problem is an XP/DX/Video Driver thing, and not a JK thing. Man, I'm glad I steered clear of XP... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lostman Posted April 9, 2002 Share Posted April 9, 2002 I suggest running a benchmark on your system to see where the error is. If your running XP and a game won't load, it's probably because you have a DX setting messes up somewhere. Do you get an error message? Does it just not load? Is this the only game that does not work? F R A G N A S T I K A Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Threetall Posted April 10, 2002 Author Share Posted April 10, 2002 Originally posted by nib Ah. XP seems to be a general pain in the butt for many people. I wouldn't be a bit surprised if your problem is an XP/DX/Video Driver thing, and not a JK thing. Man, I'm glad I steered clear of XP... If its an XP thing then its not worth the trouble. I absolutely refuse to degrade my computer(ie older drivers or OS) for any software. Going backwards is not feasible. I suspect its compatibility with DirectX8.1. the game was written for 8.0. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khmer Ghost Posted April 10, 2002 Share Posted April 10, 2002 DX 8.1 simply adds features and is backwards compatible. I'm surprised no one asked the initial poster what backplane and add-on cards he was using. These things also play a role in how a system functions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BooJediHamster Posted April 10, 2002 Share Posted April 10, 2002 "The game cant even find my card so it really doesnt matter how the driver works in game, as I cant get the game to start up normally. I tried that driver on that link." It sound like either your drivers are abnormally installed or you don't have OpenGL drivers to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Threetall Posted April 10, 2002 Author Share Posted April 10, 2002 Nvidia drivers support OpenGL. They weren't abnormally installed for the other 10 games I have on there. Thanks for your input though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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