All GeForce4 (MX series) owners please read this, and lets do somthing about it!

[RedWolf4000]

let me start with my stats:

Duron 1.0ghz

256mb pc133

20gig 7200 WD

GeForce4 MX 440

ECS Elite Group Mainboard k7sem

 

 

 

Yea so i bought this GeForce MX 440. (i know it has the NV17 chip which is a geforce2 ti chip but the new mem and board has the gf4 running much faster) First off let me say that single player is, ok, around 35-75fps...not to hot but ok. Secondly let me say that Return to castle wolfeinstein, in outside areas only runs about 20fps...which is sad, real sad. Its really not that fun, i had a radeon 7200 which was only sdram and was quite slower in every aspect, didnt even run complex shadows without lossing 35fps, but at least with the shadows off it was faster!! It doesnt make sense, the Geforce4 mx 440 was clocked as quite faster then the Radeon7200, yet i find myself joining mp games in jedi knight 2 and getting 15fps!! I feel cheated, and if anyone knows a way to fix this PLEASE, PLEASE help me, and everyone who bought 1 of these cards. I mean what could it be? Chip type drivers for the mainboard? is it windows XP? Why was the radeon faster? Does anyone know how to improve performance and potential of this card? Thanks so much for any help in adavance.

[DaveSauce]

GeForce4MX, especially the 440, is little more than an upgraded GF2. Dont be fooled by its name, it is not a great card. What can you do about it? Buy a GF4 4600....

 

What you can do however is lower your graphical settings. You probably set them way too high...which is understandable, considering the GF4 name and all...

 

Again, the GF4MX440 is little more than a GF2MX...

[Khaaan]

A GF 4 MX 440 should be about as fast as a standard GF 2. You might want to overclock it to get some more power from it (don't expect more than 10-20% more, this aint no GF 3 ti 200).

 

Make sure you turn of volumetric shadows (that costs me easily half the framerate). Also disable anisotropic filter and enable 16 bit mode (keep the texture depth at 32 or it will look bad).

 

Just to give you a general idea of how the game performs:

my system is an Athlon 1400, SDRAM, GF 3 ti 200 (clocked at GF 3 level 250/500).

 

With all details I get around 40-80 fps in SP. Less in multiplayer (not more than 20 fps if there are more than 10 players on the screen). Without volumetric shadow, anisotropic and in 16 bit mode (textures at 32) I get 150-200 fps in SP and around 80 fps in MP.

 

Still you might want to grab a GF 4 ti 4200 as soon as they get sold. These cards have the power of an overclocked GF 3 ti 500 and cost only 200$.

[RedWolf4000]

Thanks for all the help, i tried everything out but, with the geforce4 framerates just dont seem to hold up againts alot of people on the screen, im talkin down in the low low range like 12-20fps....resulting, i took the radeon 7200 64mb card out of one of my other systems and started using that as a solution. it holds a good 28+ fps when theres around 10 people on the screen in multiplayer, and is in the range of 40fps-108fps in single player mode. Im even sort of interested in the Radeon 8500, i mean maybe its no gf4 Ti 4600, but for $200, ATI doesnt make a bad card at all.

[RedWolf4000]

i just wanted to add that in my above reply, About fps with the radeon 7200, this is in single player and multiplayer in 1024x768, with all maximum detail settings and shaders, dynamic lighting, 32-bit color and textures, triliniar, the works (except that complex shadowing garbage) With the Gefroce4 mx 440, i was only pumping around 20fps with lots of baddies on screen in single player, while with the radeon 7200, im stayin at 40fps with lots of baddies, and then when there gone shooting up into the 80-100fps range, where the geforce would shoot up to only about 60. I have no idea why the radeon sdram less advanced card out wits the MX 440, but, at least i can return the geforce and get a $150 shopping spree for other computer upgrades and goodies. Thanks again for the feedback.

[Kev Boy]

Sorry to say this..but its treu

[Jazz]

RedWolf4000, like Khaaan said if you can you should wait for a couple of week and get the Geforce4 Ti4200, Ive seen the benchmarks for it and it outperforms the ATI Radeon 8500 and it seems that it is gonna be sold at the same price of the ATI Radeon 8500, so I would definitely get that. With this card you should be able to play Jedi Knight 2 with a good fps. I don't think it would ever dip below 40 at a reasonable resolution even with the video settings maxed.

[Emon]

The GeForce 4 MX 440 is not your bottleneck. It's slightly slower than the GeForce 3 Ti 200, and in some cases such as AccuView antialiasing, it accels above it.

 

Your real bottleneck is your CPU and your RAM. You've got a weak Duron CPU, and only 256 MB of RAM. I have an Athlon XP 1800+, 256MB PC2100 DDR RAM, and a GF3 Ti 200. I can run JK2 just fine, at least 60 FPS in all areas, with the exception being 30-50 in the Yavin IV swamp level.

[NoodlyGod]

My friend and I both have the following:

 

ECS K7S5A

256 meg PC-133 RAM

7200 RPM drive

Geforce 4 MX-440

1.4 Ghz T-Bird

 

He got his G4 before I did, and since I'm his geek friend I got to install it. Before installing it, I decided to test his Geforce 2 MX-400 in Quake 3: highest detail.

29.9 FPS

Geforce 4 MX-440: 128 FPS.... Notice a difference? I did! I don't think it's the card, I'd say get newer drivers and mess with your settings. I have yet to test my FPS in JKII but I'll do that in a bit and report my findings. Good luck!

[mortyr7]

How did you find your FPS? Is there a certain code that needs to be put in? Thanks

[NoodlyGod]

In Quake 3 I did the following:

 

Launch the game.

Turn everything up.

Pull down the console and type:

Timedemo 1

then type:

demo demo001

 

And then it runs the demo and counts the FPS, after the demo is done it'll put you back at the main menu. Pull down the console again and you'll see your FPS. I believe the command in JKII is :

cg_drawfps 1

 

but I could be wrong about that. I'm a lazy man, so I have yet to try.