Breakin2' Posted April 21, 2002 Share Posted April 21, 2002 My computer is a 1.3 Ghz Athlon with 256 DDR SDRAM and a GeForce 2 Ultra video card. I have all the latest drivers. My game also crashes a lot, usually on map changes. There is a problem and it does need to be patched. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedi-Bert Posted April 21, 2002 Share Posted April 21, 2002 HEY! i had a 386sx with 640k, so its not impossible =P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Seph Posted April 21, 2002 Share Posted April 21, 2002 My computer is a 1.3 Ghz Athlon with 256 DDR SDRAM and a GeForce 2 Ultra video card. I have all the latest drivers. Mate i have near enough the exact computer as you, and i never have any problems with JK2. There is a problem and it does need to be patched. I think not. When i first got Black & White it didnt work on my comp, but other people i knew had a working copy with near enough the same spec as i had , so perhaps its the disk. I did take it back and get another one and problem solved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digl Posted April 21, 2002 Share Posted April 21, 2002 KurganQ2 please calm down. The problem is obviously your computer, so instead of insulting people here and the game testers consider getting a working one, or ask someone to make the game work on your system (I play in an athlon 800 with a gf1 with no problems, and I'v made the game run in a PII333mhz with a voodoo2, and it never crashed) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoodlyGod Posted April 21, 2002 Share Posted April 21, 2002 Q2: Have you tried re-installing the game? Or have you tried copying files from the cd to the hard drive and installing from those? And on a non related note.. why in the name of all things holy am I allowed to put PHP code in my post. <? if (!isset($i)) { $i = 5; } ?> (Just seeing what it looks like) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest PissedJedi Posted April 21, 2002 Share Posted April 21, 2002 I wish Raven could patch this guy's mouth shut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McDeth Posted April 21, 2002 Share Posted April 21, 2002 Originally posted by RiverWalker my only flamage toward the origional poster is: 1) doesn't give system specs, or ANY information about his system, thusly making problem solving impossible. 2) acts like problems with either HIS computer, or problems on the server computer (not the software on either end) are something to be adressed by developers. occasionally the server disconnects me at join too,... but I got enough information, and know that the particular error was not MY computer, so I got around the problem by going to another server, rather than whining. /rant I'm pretty sure that with all of the information that Lucasarts has collected from thousands of PREVIOUS flames and issues that were posted, one more system spec is not going to make a difference. What is Lucasarts going to do? Help this ONE person? I feel his frustration too, because I can play ANY OTHER GAME IN THE WORLD and it will not crash on my pc, I play Jedi Knight 2 SP and it runs like a dream. I load up MP, and BAM it crashes. Tell me thats a hardware problem, just TELL ME that and I'll freaking bash your skull in. Oh ya, you probably want specs with that; AMD 1600 XP 384 MB RAM Geforce 3 TI500 SBLIVE 5.1 Ok, I did everything you asked me to, I guess Lucas should solve ALLL of my problems now..... /end of rant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiverWalker Posted April 21, 2002 Share Posted April 21, 2002 who said anything about them solving any problems? but for all we know any number of people on here could have an almost identical setup, and have had that problem, and found a solution, and if they know that the system is similar, then the solution could work. how would anyone know what to look for if they don't have any information than "umm, dis stupit thign crashzorz when I tri tu playyy! damnit!" on other games, particularly tribes 2, the best problem solving for getting the game to run, came not from the developers or publisher, but from other players, you still left out a few things, btw, such as: 1) Operating system. 2) Motherboard model/chipset 3) Internet connection method and arrangement. 4) any information pertaining to security such as hardware or software firewalls or the like 5) where specifically it crashes, intro video? loading? before joining? where? if while loading, is it a consistent place it crashes? or seemingly random? 6) What Drivers are you using? 7) if you get to the point of trying to start a game, how far does it get before crashing, and what are your video settings? edit: in response to below, "heeee.... ahhh loookalikeaMan!" (if you don't know what thats from, you probably don't want to know) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest PissedJedi Posted April 21, 2002 Share Posted April 21, 2002 Tech Support 101.. Tech support is only as good as the information supplied by the person requiring Tech Support. As a Tech Support professional ,I cringe every time I see these type of clueless posts who specify nothing and leave very ambigous information. Tech Support professionals are not psychics. We can't help you if you refuse to educate yourself on the system you are using. This is like someone getting robbed witnessing the crime.. and Supplying this information.. "Officer I was robbed!!!" Officer: Yes did you see the person ,what did they look like?" Victim: He was black. Officer: Tall? Short? His hairstyle? What was clothes was he wearing? Victim: He was black!! Go Catch him Dammit!! Officer: Sir, I need more information then that... Victim: I pay your salary damnit He Was black what more do you need to know?!!! That's the type of stupidity and ignorance as a Tech Support Specialist I am forced to deal with on a daily basis. And I suspect a grand majority of LEC's tech support staff gets emails all day in that vain. When you supply alot of information , it makes it a whole hell of alot easier to find out what's going and fix your problem or suggest a solution. Till folks learn to do this. They will be stuck whining and acting like damn fools. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest buffyoda Posted April 21, 2002 Share Posted April 21, 2002 Ok...I crash out alot in multiplayer games......here are my specs. Amptron Mobo AMD Athlon 900 mhz GeForce2 64mb SDRAM (w/ Raven's reccomended drivers) Windows XP Pro I have no firewalls and I'm on Roadrunner. The XP internal firewall is even turned off. The crash gives one of those lovely XP errors Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demolisher Posted April 21, 2002 Share Posted April 21, 2002 This game seriously needs to be patched. So many people, including me, with great systems are experiencing the game constantly freezing!! Go here if you don't believe me. It's ridiculous!! Both multi and single player are always freezing for me and Raven has dumped us just like they've done with their previous games. Raven forget SOF2 and come fix this game. This is so typical of you. You spend all your time developing a game and on the game's forums. Once the game is out, you completely dissapear and the worst part is, the game has loads of bugs! You left Hexen2world in beta loaded with bugs and you took forever to fix Heretic II and kept releasing buggy patches. The only game you got right was Elite Force, I'll give you that. Elite Force was patched right away and nothing is wrong with it now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmchairAthlete Posted April 21, 2002 Share Posted April 21, 2002 Why are you guys acting like he is the only one out there having trouble? Tons of us are. I get crashes right before a map should load, and when clicking YES for exiting to the main menu. I'm really fed up with it. They have alot to fix and hopefully enhancements to add in a patch. But it looks like it's not meant to be patched... no utility, no autoupdate, no nothing... Doesn't look good. If they wanted a less buggy game they should have done a large Beta Test like Blizzard is doing now with WarCraft III. And my computer is NOT CRAP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emon Posted April 21, 2002 Share Posted April 21, 2002 Originally posted by Demolisher This game seriously needs to be patched. So many people, including me, with great systems are experiencing the game constantly freezing!! Go here if you don't believe me. It's ridiculous!! Both multi and single player are always freezing for me and Raven has dumped us just like they've done with their previous games. Raven forget SOF2 and come fix this game. This is so typical of you. You spend all your time developing a game and on the game's forums. Once the game is out, you completely dissapear and the worst part is, the game has loads of bugs! You left Hexen2world in beta loaded with bugs and you took forever to fix Heretic II and kept releasing buggy patches. The only game you got right was Elite Force, I'll give you that. Elite Force was patched right away and nothing is wrong with it now 1. I've noticed this trend in the people who have problems. They are all running Windows XP. To put it blatently, Windows XP SUCKS! I'm running Win 2K and it hasn't crashed once. Switch away from XP and your problems will disappear. 2. Raven can't just "forget" SoF 2. It would be like George Lucas saying, "Oh, I think I'm gonna abort the EPII project." Just a month before it comes out. Raven is commited to SoF2 and they can't break that commitment. 3. Raven hasn't ignored us. After release ChangKahn was posting just as much if not more than before it was released. The Raven staff is REALLY busy. I'd like to see YOU try to finish SoF2, patch JK2 to remove all bugs, and release a good SDK ALL IN ONE MONTH. Patching a game isn't just opening a program, clicking a few times then sending it out to the community. You obviously know JACK **** about game development. It takes time, hard work and effort. Raven isn't a huge corporation, they only have a handful of people working on JK2, it's going to take time. So would you please STFU and stop complaining that your old ass system cannot run the game? Your really ruining the experiance of these forums for the non-stupid users. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteelFury Posted April 22, 2002 Share Posted April 22, 2002 i have exactly the same problem on the 3-4 map change. i think the game is a bit buggy too. im running a good system and at 1280x1024x32 all options maxed out the game feels a bit sluggish. i know the game has been enhanced over Quake 3, but with the same sort of settings on it runs flawlessly. on the garbage level with the blokes that throw down the grenades i can sometimes see the bloke through the floor. now that aint right. and the shadows need a bit of work too IMO. this, as someone mentioned b4 could be MY system playing up with it but i seriously doubt it. am i asking too much from it? could someone with similar specs give me some feedback on this? apart from that tho this is a great game. my first SW game. XP Pro ECS K7S5A mobo 1800+ XP Gforce 3 TI500 (leadtek) 256DDR crucial RAM 40GB 7200 harddrive Steelfury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest PissedJedi Posted April 22, 2002 Share Posted April 22, 2002 My specs are simple.. Celeron 2 800mhz. 512 megs PC133 ram Windows Xp Professional Voodoo 5 5500 Sb Live Mp3+ In over 30 hours of playing. I have yet to crash playing Jk2. The problems these people are having are not related to Xp. What's amusing is I am playing Jk2 with an unsupported card using a third party opengl icd driver. And yet no problems. It says alot for stability of Jk2 in my book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schizophrenic Posted April 22, 2002 Share Posted April 22, 2002 Originally posted by Emon 1. I've noticed this trend in the people who have problems. They are all running Windows XP. To put it blatently, Windows XP SUCKS! I'm running Win 2K and it hasn't crashed once. Switch away from XP and your problems will disappear. No problems with XP here. All of my Q3-based games run perfectly. Actually they ran worse in 98 than they do in XP, because the 9x kernel's memory handling is horrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breakin2' Posted April 22, 2002 Share Posted April 22, 2002 No matter what people say, there are those of us who are having problems. No, it's not our computers because many of us have pretty decent systems. A patch would be nice. Someone answered my earlier post by saying it was probably just a faulty disc. Well, since so many of us are having the problem, that's probably not the case. If it is, then there has to be a whole batch of faulty discs, in which case I would think LucasArts would know by know. If they do, let us know. Whatever the problem is, I would appreciate it being fixed. I love the game, but I certainly don't love having to cut the power to my system in order to turn it off due to everything being locked up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PurplWulf Posted April 22, 2002 Share Posted April 22, 2002 I agree that there is probably a bug in the game, it seems alot of people are crashing at the map load in MP. I can play SP for hours at a time, reloading multiple levels, changing settings, doing quicksaves and quickloads, and not a single problem, crash, or lockup. but I join an MP server and 5 minutes after I join the map changes and I lock up hard, so hard in fact that I have to restart my computer to be able to do anything. again this problem only happens on some servers. I can run a server and join, be there for the map change, play the next level, and the level after that, no problems at all. It only happens on servers that aren't my own, and it doesn't matter what style of play the server is hosting, although I find it happens more often on "no force" servers than on other servers. I'm not using XP, in fact I have Win98, and my other Q3 engine games all work perfectly, as well as HereticII also made by Raven. my computer more than meets the requirements for JKII and in most case doubles the minimum requirements. the purple one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GooglyMoogly Posted April 22, 2002 Share Posted April 22, 2002 Same problem with MP map change. Win98 AMD 1.4ghz 512mb ddr ram geforce ti 4600 vid card santa cruz sound card 2x40gb 7500 rpm ata100 HD's cdrw USR Perf. Pro 56k modem All the lastest drivers... This is definitely a patch fix issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilCanuck Posted April 22, 2002 Share Posted April 22, 2002 Originally posted by Breakin2' No matter what people say, there are those of us who are having problems. No, it's not our computers because many of us have pretty decent systems. A patch would be nice. Here's the truth: it is your computer. If it was some fundamental flaw in the game, it would be effecting a much broader range of people, like anyone with an AMD chip or anyone with an SBLive card. I've seen this game played flawlessly on a few systems of differing specs (while at *cough* work). Yeah, I'm sure you have great gear and all, but the standard specs aren't enough to determine the problem. Especially since at least one person in this thread has an almost identical setup to me. What this boils down to is that you have something running on your machine, or some MB chipset conflict, or some combination of about fifty different things, that makes JK2 barf. Maybe you've got some spyware on your machine, it's been known to cause MP problems for other games. That means it may or may not be a patch problem, and it's certainly not anything Raven's testing staff should lose any sleep over missing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rieper Posted April 22, 2002 Share Posted April 22, 2002 I am running windows xp and i have a 56K modem and i have no problems when running the game. The only problem is a little lag but as i already said i am running a 56K modem (ouch). If you maybe stated what system specs u have and what you are riunning the game at (resolution high textures) then i might be able to find a problem! it is more than likely that you have a sucky computer dont try to overclock your gameboy too much :-P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holy Posted April 22, 2002 Share Posted April 22, 2002 specs 98se p3 7-33 gf-2 64 meg 256 ram all drivers are current and up to date. this happens regular to me but also seems random in that i can go on one set of servers crash every map change,go on another and not a single crash during the same ammount of map changes. i have had skins music etc removed them and still get the crashes on some servers and again nothing happens on the other servers game runs a normal. anyways just adding my info. Holy...out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunsetrider Posted April 22, 2002 Share Posted April 22, 2002 You know, it seems that people are taking the patch to be released for granted. I don't know, but patch is really one of the most time consuming things for the developers to do that is part of QA, with a few dividends in return. Sure, I know Raven is one of the better developers out there that supports their products on a consistent basis, but there are others (EA, 3DO, etc.) who release the products and never allow anything to be patched if the game seems to run fine without any system stopping bugs. Creating patches that tweak something like balance issues require input from many users and I think it is a very large undertaking to do it. Anyways, there should be something wrong with your computer. Blaming software seems to be the easiest thing to do, but unless there is no evidence that any other components in your system could not attribute to this problem, the game might not be at fault at all. If you have XP, maybe you can look for the error log that are in Event Viewer of the Administrative Tools in the control Panel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Forceflow Posted April 22, 2002 Share Posted April 22, 2002 Wellm I run JO on XP and it runs just fine. I really don't know why people think XP sucks. This is maybe the first GOOD OS from M$ after Win NT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kataarn Posted April 22, 2002 Share Posted April 22, 2002 I have also experienced JKII crashes during map changes. It also only happened after I installed a new skin. This, to me, means there is something wrong with the game. Hence, I also think it needs to be patched. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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