scubactor Posted April 29, 2002 Share Posted April 29, 2002 SirBanshee Simplex, your a nobody, sit down, boy. Con. Snake, same for you, do the world a favor and hang yourselves. I'll be critical if I want. If your gonna remake an orginal level, then do it right. JOradiant just came out, this isn't about who can put out the levels in the fastest amount of time. Hey bitch, since you know so much about belittling people, go make a better version of the level. Since you obviously can't do it, you oughta shut the **** up and make one yourself. Instead of calling him a nobody (you're missing an apostrophe in that sentence, ****) why don't you whine like a little bitch ass somewhere else. We've got plenty of crazy around here already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucky Posted April 29, 2002 Share Posted April 29, 2002 The level is alright if you look at it as an original work, sans the lack of swimming animations. I personally, wouldn't have released a level that hinged on animations that weren't present. As for it being a remake of CO, its not really close. The scale is off, the item placement isn't similar, and any flow it might have is a lil screwed up by those lil rock protrusions. So if yer going to view it as an original work, i'd say its decent except for the fact that there are 0 swimming anims. Should'v just taken the pool out for that fact alone. As a *remake* of canyon oasis, its terrible. It doesn't capture any of the original flow, mostly because of the dimensions and the fact that the item placement is off. I'd say its a very poor attempt at a remake of CO, because it doesn't capture the essence of the level. There's a reason so many of us played it for so long, and that reason isn't represented in this level. Its kind of frustrating. I took the time to dl and install it, on the premise that it *was* a canyon oasis remake and instead I just found a decent level that had very lil to do with the original. A direct illegal port of the level would be better. The only reason I want canyon oasis in the first place is to contrast the dynamics of the new game with those of the old so that I can see a few differences I might miss else where. I don't really want to play it, i don't expect it to be fun, but i want an accurate remake for those reasons alone. I might have to just port it myself. Lucky PS: instead of 'canyon oasis remake' it should be referred to as 'based loosely on canyon oasis' . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[D12]SirBanshee Posted April 29, 2002 Share Posted April 29, 2002 Dark Cloak, try not to hit on me with your "Sweet, dear" crap. This isn't your pr0n chat room. Your right I don't care what people think about my posts here. scubactor, I don't pretend that I'm a level editor and I really don't care what little girls think about my posts. Oh and if your gonna diss me, diss me, don't cop out and use **** cuz your afraid to say something. Or you could spend your time spelling check my posts haha. "PS: instead of 'canyon oasis remake' it should be referred to as 'based loosely on canyon oasis' ." Truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPY_jmr1 Posted April 29, 2002 Share Posted April 29, 2002 alright boys! let 'um have it!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiquidSheep Posted April 29, 2002 Share Posted April 29, 2002 I got this off a server the other day... someone is already working on a more accurate version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zodiac Posted April 29, 2002 Share Posted April 29, 2002 I think the scale is the hardest part of making the level... bgj 2.0 and "that canyon-remake" in jk2 are both smaller than the originals. Maybe it's real hard to create such big spaces with the Q3 engine? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[D12]SirBanshee Posted April 30, 2002 Share Posted April 30, 2002 JK2's strafe run is a lot slower than the JK1's strafe run so levels shouldn't be as big as the regular JK1 levels of they lose the flow the orginals had. /Model Kyle/fpls2 (Kyle hands) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Phibes Posted April 30, 2002 Share Posted April 30, 2002 i though the lvl was an ok remake, but to me the graphics could have been a little less choppy. (or that just might be my computer). but any way it was a very good atempt by the creator Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pvt_Dancer Posted April 30, 2002 Share Posted April 30, 2002 We've got plenty of crazy around here already. This is my favorite sentence in this post. And... if no one likes what SirBanshee has to say then don't respond. Some problems WILL go away if you ignore them... and if they don't you're ignoring them so it doesn't really matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darky Posted April 30, 2002 Share Posted April 30, 2002 Crazy? I was crazy once. They locked me in a room. It was cold; dark... I died. They buried me. Ther were worms! I HATE worms! They drive me CRAZY!! Crazy? I was crazy once. They locked me in a room. It was cold; dark... I died. They buried me. Ther were worms! I HATE worms! They drive me CRAZY!! Crazy? I was crazy once. They locked me in a room. It was cold; dark... I died. They buried me. Ther were worms! I HATE worms! They drive me CRAZY!! Crazy? I was crazy once. They locked me in a room. It was cold; dark... I died. They buried me. Ther were worms! I HATE worms! They drive me CRAZY!! Crazy? I was crazy once. They locked me in a room. It was cold; dark... I died. They buried me. Ther were worms! I HATE worms! They drive me CRAZY!! Crazy? I was crazy once. They locked me in a room. It was cold; dark... I died. They buried me. Ther were worms! I HATE worms! They drive me CRAZY!! Crazy? I was crazy once. They locked me in a room. It was cold; dark... I died. They buried me. Ther were worms! I HATE worms! They drive me CRAZY!! Et cetera. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ko'or Oragahn Posted April 30, 2002 Share Posted April 30, 2002 I looked at the pics. May look like Canyon, may be as good as the original one, but is certainly ugly for a Q3 engine based game. Reminds me the Battle Ground conversion made for JO : Ugliest than the original one. Please people, you have a powerfull engine that needs to be used, so make at least decent maps. A shame that only a few oens remember the true quality of custom maps like Hot Lava, Hoth Hangar or Forest for JK. These maps were eye drying. You had to drool. Well, I guess that some players here don't bother to play ugly maps, but I do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurgan Posted April 30, 2002 Share Posted April 30, 2002 I agree, the swimming in JK2 frankly sucks compared to JK1. It's like you're treading water (underwater) the whole time, until you hit the bottom and then it's just like you're on dry land only a little slower. Silliness... Of course there was barely any water in the SP game, and none in the MP game, so they avoided having to design a bunch of new animations. You're basically just "floating" in it instead of swimming. I like the fact that sabers work in water here though. Much more true to the series. Blasters too, but they don't get "angled" by the water like in JK1, that was a cool feature (making it harder to hit people in water, who normally were sitting ducks). As it is, fall into water and you're in big trouble. The drowning damage is also interesting, it pulses with bigger chunks of damage (probably more realistic as you're running out of breath). Bubbles would be nice though.. anyhow, stuff people could add. The trap in this level is fine, but I think it needs some kind of feedback. The only way you know you are taking damage is if you watch your health meter. Lightning should zap your or something, like the original. Anyway, not bad for a first attempt, hey, there aren't that many original maps out there yet! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewBJedi Posted May 1, 2002 Share Posted May 1, 2002 Couldn't someone 'borrow' the Quake 3 animations .. reskin them and bingo, you have swimming? I'm sure the bubbles could be 'borrowed' too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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